the chicago tribune....get your washed face here !

[quote="TsVanessa69"]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

:roll:

---

take some responsibilty and get your shit together! :roll:
Either your a man or a woman, pick one side of the fence and stay on it. Pull it together. That back and forth shit makes us all look bad.

---

Perfectly said!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

:roll:

---

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

---

Thank you!!!!!!! With all that education, dude can't even get a job?? come on, how smart is that? Splitting atoms? Nigga pay some bills, pay back that student loan you living off of, stop being a Momma's boy. Your mother even reads you in one of your you-tube video's. Dude man up, take some responsibilty and get your shit together! :roll:
Either your a man or a woman, pick one side of the fence and stay on it. Pull it together. That back and forth shit makes us all look bad.

---

my hypothesis lol: dude only has all of this attention because of me ... and now with these papers it guarantees that for two years him and i will have a connection to each other . it is sad because as much as he says that he wants to be left alone by me linking my name into his youtube videos was a move that proved other wise ... any one who knows me knows i will say something back . then the text message telling me to go and look at it all ... when will norbit leave me alone ????

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mimiplastique

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

:roll:

---

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

---

Thank you!!!!!!! With all that education, dude can't even get a job?? come on, how smart is that? Splitting atoms? Nigga pay some bills, pay back that student loan you living off of, stop being a Momma's boy. Your mother even reads you in one of your you-tube video's. Dude man up, take some responsibilty and get your shit together! :roll:
Either your a man or a woman, pick one side of the fence and stay on it. Pull it together. That back and forth shit makes us all look bad.

---

my hypothesis lol: dude only has all of this attention because of me ... and now with these papers it guarantees that for two years him and i will have a connection to each other . it is sad because as much as he says that he wants to be left alone by me linking my name into his youtube videos was a move that proved other wise ... any one who knows me knows i will say something back . then the text message telling me to go and look at it all ... when will norbit leave me alone ????

---

Funny Norbot looks better than Hontis, and notice, Norbits hairline is more womanly than Hontis. This pic is on point down to the gap in the teeth!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NYTSJulie

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

:roll:

This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

---

Why haven't I dont more with my life, are you kidding with that question. Hmmm lets see. I will try to give a quick wrap of my life story in a few sentences.

First off, yes I am an escort but go read my Eros ad I am not around during the afternoons because I have other obligations. I am not some bitch sitting up in a hotel room for weeks on end doing nothing. So if thats where your trying to go with this then your very misinformed, I escort on the side, and its a very small part of my life.

I started transition out of high school. I have traveled the world, transitioned successfully, owned 2 homes, had many new cars, boyfriends, been engaged 2 times then a 3rd to some trick that I was working but that doesn't count lol, been to school, had several jobs and have a job now, lived with my ex and raised his daughter for 4 years, owned my own business. I could go on and on.

So while your sitting there splitting atoms take one of them and shove it way up for ass and put the other in a pipe and smoke it cunt.

---

I never said you were stupid. You said I was stupid. I never belittled your life you and others have belitteld and questioned mine. I have never started a thread just to flame someone. Yet I get blamed for it happening as if the other party has no agency of their own. As if they cannot be responsible for their actions. What the hell?

My lifes story is what it is. I had to compromise livng as a woman for the sake of becoming a scientist and going to a top flight program which just happend to be in a school with discriminatory policies like NIU's. Science was just more importnat to me. ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT"S STUPID JUST DOES NOT KNOW THE PASSION IT TAKES TO DO WHAT I DO.

Let me read this another way. You transtioned "out of highscool and lived ever since as a woman. I transtiioned in highschool, went back to living as a man for four years then retranstioned. So basically as of age 27 you and I had lived about the same ammount of time as women. Therefore it your point was to make some hay out of having lived as a woman for longer you did not. We are in fact even in that department.

---

I started transition 13 years ago. I took hormones a few years before I wet fulltime. If you have been in transition for 13 years also you wouldnt look like Urkel.

THANK GOD I DO NOT KNOW ANYONE NAMED BRENDA WINK WINK

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

:roll:

This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

---

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

---

Money isn't the issue there are organizations like lambada legal who would represent in a discrimination case for free.

The problem as always is proving that there was in fact discrimination. So far the people I have dealt with have been real smart about this and not just said "we will not hire you (or changed our minds) because you are a tranny." It has to be that blatant before any law will kick in. Not to mention that if the organization is a federal contractor or the fed govt. they can discriminate based on "gender identity or expression". There is no law covering them.

It's partly my fault. People have a fixed idea in their head of how a research scientist is supposed to look and act. That image clashes with the image of a transsexual woman. At lest it does in the minds of the ignorant. (This is when I honestly think to myself "why didn't I just go to beauty school?")

---

I FELL U..I MEAN ITS ALWAYS LEGAL NAME CHANGE..I KNOW WHEN I GOT MINE CHANGED AND WENT TO DMV THEY CHANGE THE SEX..ALL MY PAPERS SAY FEMALE EVEN MY PASSPORT..SO U SHOULD TRY IT..I'VE WORKED A PLEANTY OF JOBS WITH OUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW MY T..BUT I KNOW WHEN I WAS TRANSITIONING ..I HAD A NICE JOB WORKING FOR UNIVERSITY OF MARLAND SCHOOL OF MEDICINE..THEY PULLED ONE OF THOSE LIL TRICKS ON ME..ONCE I WENT FULL TIME..SO AFTER THAT I DECIDED TO MAKE SURE NEXT TIME I GET A JOB I GO IN AS A WOMAN WITH PROPER LEGAL PAPER WORK SO I WONT GO THROUGH THAT BULLSHIT AGAIN.. FELL ME

LOL YALL GIRLS NEED TO CALL MTV AND GET A REALITY SHOW..RATINGS WOULD BE TO THE MOON..

---

I have had my name AND GENDER MARKER changed on all my ID and all my papers EXCEPT my B.C. here in IL you cannot get that changed without bottom surgery (unless the law has changed again or there is someone shady who will do it anyway). Even with that changed the RECORDS OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION WILL ALWYS SAY MALE FOR ANYONE BORN THAT WAY.

If it was as simple as "having my shit toegether and papers in order" :tsk: I wouldn't complain.

AS FOR MY NAME BEING A "MALE" NAME ONCE AND FOR ALL LOOK AT THESE..

Google: "Baby Names" Hontas*

The Urban Dictionary: Hontas

A womans vag. Also known as an axe wound, beaver, cooter, clam, box, muff, slit, snatch, or many other terms.

Did you see that sexy indian girl? God I wanna poke some hontas.


So Vanessa Kira and any others who would tell me to "pick one side of the fence"... I have picked one side of the fence. I PICKED IT WHEN I WAS 13 AND ONLY WENT BACK UNDER GREAT DURESS.

Fuck you very much.

* I edited this part here to change it from "female baby names" to just "baby names". The only reference that has my name list it as female or unisex which is what I have always said about it. Get my papers in order... bithces wanna talk about who's had this or that done first. How many MTF transsexuals were given a female name when they were born!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Echi is a alcoholic Legend, his anger and abrasive attitude derive from that. I have just chosen to ignore him from now on. I hope he seeks AA and gets the help he needs. It's rough being an acoholic or druggie, I dated one for two years, he suffered from alcoholism and bulimia. He is still dealing with it. It's why we broke up, I could no longer be his support and sit and watch him die.

---

Bitch you know nothing about me you fucking man. Yeah, I called you a man. Now start crying again like you always do. You need therapy in a bad way. Must be tough thinking that you should be treated like some kind of princess when your nothing more than a deluded imbisile.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Echi is a alcoholic Legend, his anger and abrasive attitude derive from that. I have just chosen to ignore him from now on. I hope he seeks AA and gets the help he needs. It's rough being an acoholic or druggie, I dated one for two years, he suffered from alcoholism and bulimia. He is still dealing with it. It's why we broke up, I could no longer be his support and sit and watch him die.

---

Bitch you know nothing about me you fucking man. Yeah, I called you a man. Now start crying again like you always do. You need therapy in a bad way. Must be tough thinking that you should be treated like some kind of princess when your nothing more than a deluded imbisile.

---

rofl whatever you say dear. Please seek AA.

@echimandu

Will you quit it with calling girls men. Goddamit when one of us does it it's allot like one black person calling another a nigger. It's just not the same when you do it.

So what if some bitches want to call other bithces men that's just part of the tranny drama "as the client turns". OK

Just stop.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

This thread really is an eye opener! I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men. Why is this being settled on the internet when the people involved live in the same city?

---

Thanks Revolve. I know most of what I say about these so called girls is on point. But according to people like Kelly, I'm attacking someone. Hey Kelly, if you think I'm so much of an alcoholic, give me a call after I drink a half bottle of whiskey and I'll tell you how I really feel about you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

This thread really is an eye opener! I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men. Why is this being settled on the internet when the people involved live in the same city?

---

Thanks Revolve. I know most of what I say about these so called girls is on point. But according to people like Kelly, I'm attacking someone. Hey Kelly, if you think I'm so much of an alcoholic, give me a call after I drink a half bottle of whiskey and I'll tell you how I really feel about you.

---

Echi dear I don't know you, nor do I want to until you SEEK COUNSELING. You were fine till you started drinking again. You know it and I know it. So again SEEK COUNSELING. :wink:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

@ KellyShore:

"I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men."

That was my quote above - so you're telling me I'm out of order by agreeing with another poster that some of the girls in this thread are acting like men? So just because he's an alcoholic he can't have a stable opinion? Let's be serious about this.

I haven't called any transsexual a man, so don't put words in my mouth. This is definitely the last thing I'm writing tonight, I'll reply next time I'm online.

---

So then you would say genetic girls that act this same way cause they DO act like men also? You must of never watched the movie Mean Girls maybe you should, because that is what girls are like. Some girls may be acting like high school age girls, but men HARDLY.

And I'm saying he is an alcoholic with many issues, goes around on the board harassing girls if they don't agree with his opinion. He tells them he will kill them, beat them, and other threats. These actions come from his drinking! He sits online all night drinking and feeling sorry for himself, and uses the girls on this forum for his whipping toy. I've talked to him many times in the chatroom when he was asking for help, he even asked Eric for help about his situation. We all have issues and sometimes makes us act in ways we normally don't, I found Echi nice before he relapsed again, which he has. He was fine till then. I am sure he is still a nice person with out that poision he puts in his system. You are assuming how these GIRLS ACT OFF ARGUMENT, people say things they don't mean and wouldn't normally say when offended or angered and much less online. So again THAT WAS MY ARGUMENT!

Lets be clear on something, calling a transsexual a man or acting like a man is uncalled for in any circumstance. A lot of girls have to learn to act like women when in transition, it's offensive. There are loads of genetic women that act like men that are straight females. They do boy things, walk like boys, look like boys, and talk like boys. Does that make them any less a woman? NO! If they see themselves as women and not a transsexual man then they are women....RIGHT? And who made you the judge of femininity? GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

---

You dumb motherfucker. You know nothing about me. You are proving yourself to be without a doubt, one of the stupidest human beings to ever grace the internet. And you lie too. I never said I would kill anyone. But if you keep making shit up about me, I will find a way to shut you up. Now I guess that means I'm going to hurt you huh. You're a dumb ass man.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

@ KellyShore:

"I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men."

That was my quote above - so you're telling me I'm out of order by agreeing with another poster that some of the girls in this thread are acting like men? So just because he's an alcoholic he can't have a stable opinion? Let's be serious about this.

I haven't called any transsexual a man, so don't put words in my mouth. This is definitely the last thing I'm writing tonight, I'll reply next time I'm online.

---

So then you would say genetic girls that act this same way cause they DO act like men also? You must of never watched the movie Mean Girls maybe you should, because that is what girls are like. Some girls may be acting like high school age girls, but men HARDLY.

And I'm saying he is an alcoholic with many issues, goes around on the board harassing girls if they don't agree with his opinion. He tells them he will kill them, beat them, and other threats. These actions come from his drinking! He sits online all night drinking and feeling sorry for himself, and uses the girls on this forum for his whipping toy. I've talked to him many times in the chatroom when he was asking for help, he even asked Eric for help about his situation. We all have issues and sometimes makes us act in ways we normally don't, I found Echi nice before he relapsed again, which he has. He was fine till then. I am sure he is still a nice person with out that poision he puts in his system. You are assuming how these GIRLS ACT OFF ARGUMENT, people say things they don't mean and wouldn't normally say when offended or angered and much less online. So again THAT WAS MY ARGUMENT!

Lets be clear on something, calling a transsexual a man or acting like a man is uncalled for in any circumstance. A lot of girls have to learn to act like women when in transition, it's offensive. There are loads of genetic women that act like men that are straight females. They do boy things, walk like boys, look like boys, and talk like boys. Does that make them any less a woman? NO! If they see themselves as women and not a transsexual man then they are women....RIGHT? And who made you the judge of femininity? GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

---

You dumb motherfucker. You know nothing about me. You are proving yourself to be without a doubt, one of the stupidest human beings to ever grace the internet. And you lie too. I never said I would kill anyone. But if you keep making shit up about me, I will find a way to shut you up. Now I guess that means I'm going to hurt you huh. You're a dumb ass man.

---

Umm you did you said it quite a few times in the chatroom what you would do to Mimi. :roll: :roll: Put the drink down and seek outrreach.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Echi is a alcoholic Legend, his anger and abrasive attitude derive from that. I have just chosen to ignore him from now on. I hope he seeks AA and gets the help he needs. It's rough being an acoholic or druggie, I dated one for two years, he suffered from alcoholism and bulimia. He is still dealing with it. It's why we broke up, I could no longer be his support and sit and watch him die.

---

Bitch you know nothing about me you fucking man. Yeah, I called you a man. Now start crying again like you always do. You need therapy in a bad way. Must be tough thinking that you should be treated like some kind of princess when your nothing more than a deluded imbisile.

---

Napolean Complex
Otherwise known as Little Guy Syndrome

1.A man, small in stature, who attempts to overcome the way he believes other people perceive him (as a diminuative character) by 1) attaching himself to authority figures, 2) trying to manipulate himself into positions of control, 3) migrating toward positions of leadership, and 4) having a fairly volatile temper.

2.Small men in stature that feel that they are considered less than the average sized men who are larger in girth and height; thusly causing themselves to continually display their machisimosims in order to prove their worth and maintain an illusion of "larger than life".

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

@ KellyShore:

"I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men."

That was my quote above - so you're telling me I'm out of order by agreeing with another poster that some of the girls in this thread are acting like men? So just because he's an alcoholic he can't have a stable opinion? Let's be serious about this.

I haven't called any transsexual a man, so don't put words in my mouth. This is definitely the last thing I'm writing tonight, I'll reply next time I'm online.

---

So then you would say genetic girls that act this same way cause they DO act like men also? You must of never watched the movie Mean Girls maybe you should, because that is what girls are like. Some girls may be acting like high school age girls, but men HARDLY.

And I'm saying he is an alcoholic with many issues, goes around on the board harassing girls if they don't agree with his opinion. He tells them he will kill them, beat them, and other threats. These actions come from his drinking! He sits online all night drinking and feeling sorry for himself, and uses the girls on this forum for his whipping toy. I've talked to him many times in the chatroom when he was asking for help, he even asked Eric for help about his situation. We all have issues and sometimes makes us act in ways we normally don't, I found Echi nice before he relapsed again, which he has. He was fine till then. I am sure he is still a nice person with out that poision he puts in his system. You are assuming how these GIRLS ACT OFF ARGUMENT, people say things they don't mean and wouldn't normally say when offended or angered and much less online. So again THAT WAS MY ARGUMENT!

Lets be clear on something, calling a transsexual a man or acting like a man is uncalled for in any circumstance. A lot of girls have to learn to act like women when in transition, it's offensive. There are loads of genetic women that act like men that are straight females. They do boy things, walk like boys, look like boys, and talk like boys. Does that make them any less a woman? NO! If they see themselves as women and not a transsexual man then they are women....RIGHT? And who made you the judge of femininity? GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

---

You dumb motherfucker. You know nothing about me. You are proving yourself to be without a doubt, one of the stupidest human beings to ever grace the internet. And you lie too. I never said I would kill anyone. But if you keep making shit up about me, I will find a way to shut you up. Now I guess that means I'm going to hurt you huh. You're a dumb ass man.

---

Umm you did you said it quite a few times in the chatroom what you would do to Mimi. :roll: :roll: Put the drink down and seek outrreach.

---

Seek therapy for dealing with the real world jackass.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

@ KellyShore:

"I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men."

That was my quote above - so you're telling me I'm out of order by agreeing with another poster that some of the girls in this thread are acting like men? So just because he's an alcoholic he can't have a stable opinion? Let's be serious about this.

I haven't called any transsexual a man, so don't put words in my mouth. This is definitely the last thing I'm writing tonight, I'll reply next time I'm online.

---

So then you would say genetic girls that act this same way cause they DO act like men also? You must of never watched the movie Mean Girls maybe you should, because that is what girls are like. Some girls may be acting like high school age girls, but men HARDLY.

And I'm saying he is an alcoholic with many issues, goes around on the board harassing girls if they don't agree with his opinion. He tells them he will kill them, beat them, and other threats. These actions come from his drinking! He sits online all night drinking and feeling sorry for himself, and uses the girls on this forum for his whipping toy. I've talked to him many times in the chatroom when he was asking for help, he even asked Eric for help about his situation. We all have issues and sometimes makes us act in ways we normally don't, I found Echi nice before he relapsed again, which he has. He was fine till then. I am sure he is still a nice person with out that poision he puts in his system. You are assuming how these GIRLS ACT OFF ARGUMENT, people say things they don't mean and wouldn't normally say when offended or angered and much less online. So again THAT WAS MY ARGUMENT!

Lets be clear on something, calling a transsexual a man or acting like a man is uncalled for in any circumstance. A lot of girls have to learn to act like women when in transition, it's offensive. There are loads of genetic women that act like men that are straight females. They do boy things, walk like boys, look like boys, and talk like boys. Does that make them any less a woman? NO! If they see themselves as women and not a transsexual man then they are women....RIGHT? And who made you the judge of femininity? GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

---

You dumb motherfucker. You know nothing about me. You are proving yourself to be without a doubt, one of the stupidest human beings to ever grace the internet. And you lie too. I never said I would kill anyone. But if you keep making shit up about me, I will find a way to shut you up. Now I guess that means I'm going to hurt you huh. You're a dumb ass man.

---

Umm you did you said it quite a few times in the chatroom what you would do to Mimi. :roll: :roll: Put the drink down and seek outrreach.

---

Seek therapy for dealing with the real world jackass.

---

:lol: :lol: :lol: Echi

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

@ KellyShore:

"I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men."

That was my quote above - so you're telling me I'm out of order by agreeing with another poster that some of the girls in this thread are acting like men? So just because he's an alcoholic he can't have a stable opinion? Let's be serious about this.

I haven't called any transsexual a man, so don't put words in my mouth. This is definitely the last thing I'm writing tonight, I'll reply next time I'm online.

---

So then you would say genetic girls that act this same way cause they DO act like men also? You must of never watched the movie Mean Girls maybe you should, because that is what girls are like. Some girls may be acting like high school age girls, but men HARDLY.

And I'm saying he is an alcoholic with many issues, goes around on the board harassing girls if they don't agree with his opinion. He tells them he will kill them, beat them, and other threats. These actions come from his drinking! He sits online all night drinking and feeling sorry for himself, and uses the girls on this forum for his whipping toy. I've talked to him many times in the chatroom when he was asking for help, he even asked Eric for help about his situation. We all have issues and sometimes makes us act in ways we normally don't, I found Echi nice before he relapsed again, which he has. He was fine till then. I am sure he is still a nice person with out that poision he puts in his system. You are assuming how these GIRLS ACT OFF ARGUMENT, people say things they don't mean and wouldn't normally say when offended or angered and much less online. So again THAT WAS MY ARGUMENT!

Lets be clear on something, calling a transsexual a man or acting like a man is uncalled for in any circumstance. A lot of girls have to learn to act like women when in transition, it's offensive. There are loads of genetic women that act like men that are straight females. They do boy things, walk like boys, look like boys, and talk like boys. Does that make them any less a woman? NO! If they see themselves as women and not a transsexual man then they are women....RIGHT? And who made you the judge of femininity? GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

---

You dumb motherfucker. You know nothing about me. You are proving yourself to be without a doubt, one of the stupidest human beings to ever grace the internet. And you lie too. I never said I would kill anyone. But if you keep making shit up about me, I will find a way to shut you up. Now I guess that means I'm going to hurt you huh. You're a dumb ass man.

---

Umm you did you said it quite a few times in the chatroom what you would do to Mimi. :roll: :roll: Put the drink down and seek outrreach.

---

Seek therapy for dealing with the real world jackass.

---

:lol: :lol: :lol: Echi

---

And furthermore, everyone knows that YOU'RE the one who stays here all day. I have a life dude. What I've accomplished in my life couldn't possibly be done drinking excessively or living on a computer talking to drag queens like yourself. I'm out.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RevolveR.

@ KellyShore:

"I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men."

That was my quote above - so you're telling me I'm out of order by agreeing with another poster that some of the girls in this thread are acting like men? So just because he's an alcoholic he can't have a stable opinion? Let's be serious about this.

I haven't called any transsexual a man, so don't put words in my mouth. This is definitely the last thing I'm writing tonight, I'll reply next time I'm online.

---

So then you would say genetic girls that act this same way cause they DO act like men also? You must of never watched the movie Mean Girls maybe you should, because that is what girls are like. Some girls may be acting like high school age girls, but men HARDLY.

And I'm saying he is an alcoholic with many issues, goes around on the board harassing girls if they don't agree with his opinion. He tells them he will kill them, beat them, and other threats. These actions come from his drinking! He sits online all night drinking and feeling sorry for himself, and uses the girls on this forum for his whipping toy. I've talked to him many times in the chatroom when he was asking for help, he even asked Eric for help about his situation. We all have issues and sometimes makes us act in ways we normally don't, I found Echi nice before he relapsed again, which he has. He was fine till then. I am sure he is still a nice person with out that poision he puts in his system. You are assuming how these GIRLS ACT OFF ARGUMENT, people say things they don't mean and wouldn't normally say when offended or angered and much less online. So again THAT WAS MY ARGUMENT!

Lets be clear on something, calling a transsexual a man or acting like a man is uncalled for in any circumstance. A lot of girls have to learn to act like women when in transition, it's offensive. There are loads of genetic women that act like men that are straight females. They do boy things, walk like boys, look like boys, and talk like boys. Does that make them any less a woman? NO! If they see themselves as women and not a transsexual man then they are women....RIGHT? And who made you the judge of femininity? GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

---

You dumb motherfucker. You know nothing about me. You are proving yourself to be without a doubt, one of the stupidest human beings to ever grace the internet. And you lie too. I never said I would kill anyone. But if you keep making shit up about me, I will find a way to shut you up. Now I guess that means I'm going to hurt you huh. You're a dumb ass man.

---

Umm you did you said it quite a few times in the chatroom what you would do to Mimi. :roll: :roll: Put the drink down and seek outrreach.

---

Seek therapy for dealing with the real world jackass.

---

:lol: :lol: :lol: Echi

---

And furthermore, everyone knows that YOU'RE the one who stays here all day. I have a life dude. What I've accomplished in my life couldn't possibly be done drinking excessively or living on a computer talking to drag queens like yourself. I'm out.

---

again if you say so love. Kisses Seek counseling.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

I'm out.

---

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

---

Says the circus freak.See, I started talking to chefmike in this thread. Not to you, or Kelly, or Brenda or any of you clown ass trannys. then kelly puts her mouth in something I said to chefmike. Which was clearly an attack cause she's still mad I called her a man. And now the fucking circus freak has chimmed in. Oh, but we men are the ones who jump into tranny conversations. Get a fucking clue stupid motherfuckers. And legend, your sooo much of a bitch its not even worth my time.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

I'm out.

---

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

---

Says the circus freak.See, I started talking to chefmike in this thread. Not to you, or Kelly, or Brenda or any of you clown ass trannys. then kelly puts her mouth in something I said to chefmike. Which was clearly an attack cause she's still mad I called her a man. And now the fucking circus freak has chimmed in. Oh, but we men are the ones who jump into tranny conversations. Get a fucking clue stupid motherfuckers. And legend, your sooo much of a bitch its not even worth my time.

---

Lets get something clear here you can call me anything you like I am not mad at you at all. I feel sorry for you, as what I stated in the chatroo. I have always been nice to you, I just told you I was tired of hearing about how much you hate MiMi and you had a meltdown and called me a man big deal who cares. Now go SEEK COUNSELING FOR YOUR ALCOHOL PROBLEM!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

I'm out.

---

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

---

Says the circus freak.See, I started talking to chefmike in this thread. Not to you, or Kelly, or Brenda or any of you clown ass trannys. then kelly puts her mouth in something I said to chefmike. Which was clearly an attack cause she's still mad I called her a man. And now the fucking circus freak has chimmed in. Oh, but we men are the ones who jump into tranny conversations. Get a fucking clue stupid motherfuckers. And legend, your sooo much of a bitch its not even worth my time.

---

Lets get something clear here you can call me anything you like I am not mad at you at all. I feel sorry for you, as what I stated in the chatroo. I have always been nice to you, I just told you I was tired of hearing about how much you hate MiMi and you had a meltdown and called me a man big deal who cares. Now go SEEK COUNSELING FOR YOUR ALCOHOL PROBLEM!

---

Jackass there is no problem. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. You're the fucking idiot who lives here and makes their life an open book on the internet. How fucking stupid is that. Now if you have anything else to say, do it in a pm, and if you can't STFU. Cause I really don't feel sorry for you, although most humans would. grow up pale white man.

This thread is like a hot pile of dog shit, I think it needs to die.

How about showing us what is between your legs Julie? That would change the focus of the thread.

damn if u keep it up i am sure they will be nominating to have a chicago section !!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

How about showing us what is between your legs Julie? That would change the focus of the thread.

---

I dont show my cock online sorry lol

Wish that was not the case. Sure I am not alone because you are beautiful.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

I'm out.

---

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

---

Says the circus freak.See, I started talking to chefmike in this thread. Not to you, or Kelly, or Brenda or any of you clown ass trannys. then kelly puts her mouth in something I said to chefmike. Which was clearly an attack cause she's still mad I called her a man. And now the fucking circus freak has chimmed in. Oh, but we men are the ones who jump into tranny conversations. Get a fucking clue stupid motherfuckers. And legend, your sooo much of a bitch its not even worth my time.

---

I'm not worth your time but yet you have time to mention me into your little emotional breakdown.You referring me as a bitch is extremely funny because your the one who ran out of that chatroom when no one wanted to hear your whining.Your a little man who is trying to act like a big guy online because you had a tough life put the keyboard down and go get some fucking help you whiner.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by echimandu

I'm out.

---

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

---

Says the circus freak.See, I started talking to chefmike in this thread. Not to you, or Kelly, or Brenda or any of you clown ass trannys. then kelly puts her mouth in something I said to chefmike. Which was clearly an attack cause she's still mad I called her a man. And now the fucking circus freak has chimmed in. Oh, but we men are the ones who jump into tranny conversations. Get a fucking clue stupid motherfuckers. And legend, your sooo much of a bitch its not even worth my time.

---

Shove it up your jaded ass, motherfucker. http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...imatedgifs.gif

---

werk

thank god i dont know any of you in real life.

8)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

And stfu "Braveman". You do nothing but play devil's advocate and stir shit on this forum. Things were fine on this thread before you, echimandu, bilko, and chef started talking shit. Mimi has taken way too much shit here from faceless cowards. Stay out of women's business, you fags.

---

Go fuck yourself, Nicole.

I'll say whatever I want, whenever I want, to whomever I want. The fact that you have appointed yourself the spokesperson for the tranny community doesn't mean shit to me. I usually just ignore you, but like I said, go fuck yourself, bitch.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by chefmike

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nicole Dupree

And stfu "Braveman". You do nothing but play devil's advocate and stir shit on this forum. Things were fine on this thread before you, echimandu, bilko, and chef started talking shit. Mimi has taken way too much shit here from faceless cowards. Stay out of women's business, you fags.

---

Go fuck yourself, Nicole.

I'll say whatever I want, whenever I want, to whomever I want. The fact that you have appointed yourself the spokesperson for the tranny community doesn't mean shit to me. I usually just ignore you, but like I said, go fuck yourself, bitch.

---

Fuck you, fatso.

---

all these fagots would fuck mr . qg lady boy please ... ignore the lady boy fanclub

And fuck you too, shanaynay, you skanky crack whore.

Quote:

---

...consumed by anger and resentment.

---

That's pretty damn funny coming from a bitter battle-axe like you, Arianna. I also see that you've appointed yourself as VR's spokesperson. Vicki and I have made our peace, but what business of it is yours anyway? I'm not gonna sit here and trade insults with you, as you apparently want me to do. I want nothing to do with you or your streetwalking friend shanaynay. So fuck off.

i would'nt waist my time going back in forth..in insults..with..some in the closet butchqueen..all they wanna do is get ego points and self esteam boost cause so in denial cause they like dick and they mad and dont know how to deal with..Straight men are really needed on this site..men that respect women cause some of these men..need a father figure..cause they are staight bytches..Men dont carry it like that..then they wanna know y we say u a damn faggot..cause only a faggot...does shit like that..its a fuking mess

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by chefmike

And fuck you too, shanaynay, you skanky crack whore.

---

IT'S MIMI YOU FACELESS FREAK YOU MUST BE A PART OF THE BQG FANCLUB TOO HUH ... WELL IT IS PROBABLY THE BEST YOU CAN DO YOU CROSSDRESSIN1G INBREEDING WASTE OF SPERM . YOUR FATHER SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE WAY HE BUSTED THAT NUT INSIDE YOUR MOTHERS PUSSY TO MAKE A FAGGOTY ASS CROSS DRESSING ASS SISSY LIKE YOU ... NOE GO PLAY WITH SOME REAL MEN YOUR AGE AND LEAVE T GIRLS ALONE .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by chefmike

Quote:

---

...consumed by anger and resentment.

---

That's pretty damn funny coming from a bitter battle-axe like you, Arianna. I also see that you've appointed yourself as VR's spokesperson. Vicki and I have made our peace, but what business of it is yours anyway? I'm not gonna sit here and trade insults with you, as you apparently want me to do. I want nothing to do with you or your streetwalking friend shanaynay. So fuck off.

---

HOW DO I WALK THE STREETS AND STILL HAVE TIME TO TALK TO YOU YOU DEFECTIVE TOY ???? YOU NEED TO BE RECALLED AND FIXED WITHOUT THE SOUND STRING CAUSE N O B O D Y CARES ABOUT YOUR :2cent :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://www.rockyou.com/show_my_galle...nceid=98533609

@ KellyShore: This is my opinion on the matter, I'm not here to try and preach anything to you or change your beliefs. I'll say this once and if you don't like it then move the fuck on. In my opinion there ARE a lot of women on this thread acting like men, is that such a big crime for me to say that? Not once did I say they WERE men, can you not understand basic English? So keep your "Mean Girls" theories to yourself because I don't give a fuck. Another thing, I don't think it's any of your business to broadcast this guys personal problems across the internet, regardless of what he has said. I'll say this again and hopefully it sinks into your head this time - Echimandu has the right to have an opinion whether he's an alcoholic or not! From the little I've read on him he seems to make a hell of a lot more sense than you. Please don't feel the need to write any more of your pointless drivel. Thanks.

Excuse me? You trannies are like fies around shit on me just because I agree with someone? Go fuck yourself.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BADAZZBODY

---

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

---

Money isn't the issue there are organizations like lambada legal who would represent in a discrimination case for free.

It's partly my fault. People have a fixed idea in their head of how a research scientist is supposed to look and act. That image clashes with the image of a transsexual woman. At lest it does in the minds of the ignorant. (This is when I honestly think to myself "why didn't I just go to beauty school?")

---

I FELL U..I MEAN ITS ALWAYS LEGAL NAME CHANGE..I KNOW WHEN I GOT MINE CHANGED AND WENT TO DMV THEY CHANGE THE SEX..ALL MY PAPERS SAY FEMALE EVEN MY PASSPORT..SO U SHOULD TRY IT..I'VE WORKED A PLEANTY OF JOBS WITH OUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW MY T..BUT I KNOW WHEN I WAS TRANSITIONING ..I HAD A NICE JOB WORKING FOR UNIVERSITY OF MARLAND SCHOOL OF MEDICINE..THEY PULLED ONE OF THOSE LIL TRICKS ON ME..ONCE I WENT FULL TIME..SO AFTER THAT I DECIDED TO MAKE SURE NEXT TIME I GET A JOB I GO IN AS A WOMAN WITH PROPER LEGAL PAPER WORK SO I WONT GO THROUGH THAT BULLSHIT AGAIN.. FELL ME

LOL YALL GIRLS NEED TO CALL MTV AND GET A REALITY SHOW..RATINGS WOULD BE TO THE MOON..

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BrendaQG

I have had my name AND GENDER MARKER changed on all my ID and all my papers EXCEPT my B.C. here in IL you cannot get that changed without bottom surgery (unless the law has changed again or there is someone shady who will do it anyway). Even with that changed the RECORDS OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION WILL ALWYS SAY MALE FOR ANYONE BORN THAT WAY.

If it was as simple as "having my shit toegether and papers in order" :tsk: I wouldn't complain.

AS FOR MY NAME BEING A "MALE" NAME ONCE AND FOR ALL LOOK AT THESE..

Google: "Baby Names" Hontas*

The Urban Dictionary: Hontas

A womans vag. Also known as an axe wound, beaver, cooter, clam, box, muff, slit, snatch, or many other terms.

Did you see that sexy indian girl? God I wanna poke some hontas.

So Vanessa Kira and any others who would tell me to "pick one side of the fence"... I have picked one side of the fence. I PICKED IT WHEN I WAS 13 AND ONLY WENT BACK UNDER GREAT DURESS.
!

---

Dude stop lying, you NEVER had a name changed, boy your momma named you Hontis, and thats what your ID says, so if you had a legal name change Hontis Farmer, what did you change it too? Hontis Farmer???
I know you were stupid, but how stupid are you? If you were on hormones since 13, a lie! His mother doesn't even see him as a girl now, and at 13 you would obviously need parental consent for any time of therapy, then why are you still shaped like a man. you are 30 now so if you beeen taking hormones for over 17 years, your body would be way more feminine than what it is. You have a mans body shape. Now if you took hormones at 13, you interrupted male puberty, so why do you grow a full beard? Hormones at 13 would have stopped that. Hormones at 13 would have given your voice a feminine pitch, which from your you tube video's, proves thats a lie. Dude, stop living in fantasy land, and get into reality! Get your shit together. Stransitioning at your age, is not all that bad, you may have some kind of maybe if we close our eyes to a squint, you can kinda sorta resemble an older, unattractive woman. :roll: