I think we should have a civil war......

Amen

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Originally Posted by sucka4chix

Yeah you went over it, but it has nothing to do with anything. Once again--apples and oranges. That may fly with morons, but I'm not one of those. Buck is not an ugly woman. To put it on your level, Buck is a woman with all the features of a man except a cock. And in a normal situation you wouldn't know that. So a man who sees Ruth Gordon in a bar and gets a hardon is not of the same sexual ilk as a man who sees Buck in a bar and gets a hardon. The second is indeed gay. The genitalia is irrelevant. He saw a man and was attracted. He doesn't all of a sudden get to be classified as straight because Buck happens to have a cunt! If you can't understand that then you are far too stupid for me to try to reason with.

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1. Buck is an extremely ugly woman. You think Buck is the only woman with facial hair and big arms? So, have all the "manly" woman suddenly become men, or just the ones who really, truly wished they were men and remembered to click their jackboot heels three times on Folsom Street under the full moon?

2. Genitalia is hardly irrelevant. But if you're committed to the point, saw yours off and mail it to me: General Delivery, Sacramento, CA 94205. I appreciate someone who's willing to back up their words.


I didn't know you wanted to play the "gotcha" game. 'Cause everyone here knows the TS's here are packing a penis.

There's no - "Whoa! Hullo! What have we here?! Well, you're just so damned cute, I see no reason to stop."

This isn't two guys checking out a couple of cute chicks from across the bar and suddenly morphing into full-on queers because, Surprise!, under their skirts the two "ladies" had penises. Gotcha!

This is guys coming to a board called HungAngels to check out biological males, knowing full well what they're going to find here (read: penises), and slap the bishop around for a while.

And then, when the post-coital discomfort about the possible "H-ness" of the desire comes a knockin', breathing that identity-preserving sigh of relief. "Whew, that was almost GAY! Thank God they're really women, otherwise that could've been awkward!"

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Originally Posted by jcinva

I'm suggesting the act of wanting, or doing most sorts of things one would do with a TS, are gay. 'Cause, like, you know - guys. At what point you are officially banned from the "He Man Heteros" club, I couldn't say. I'll leave that for brighter minds than mine.

Didn't like the hemlock analogy. OK.

In the course of figuring out the whole relativity thing, Einstein and a few others were so appalled at the ideas of quantum uncertainty and the expanding universe that they scrambled to add all sorts of constants and other extraneous crap to drag this new model of the Universe back onto "safe ground." Eventually, however, enough proof got set on the table that the community said, all this extra stuff, right here - unnecessary. The universe is expanding and at the quantum level, you can't know position and velocity. It may upset your notions of the way things "ought to be" but that's what is. Dealwiddit.

So, here you've got this situation where you've got a guy who decides, (or realizes he's always known) that he wants to be a chick and do chick shit, including have tits, hairless chest, sleep with guys, and read Nights in Rodanthe. And then there's a guy who realizes, holy shit, that person in the dress is fucking "hawt" and then there's Mr. Happy hanging out. Uh-oh.

Both have this epiphany - Aw crap! What I want to do is fucking GAY! I can't be GAY 'cause then I'll be ridiculed by my friends and family, and have to act like Jack MacFarland, and spend the rest of eternity wailing and gnashing my teeth in the Lake of Fire! Aw, man! That blows!

So, then, like Einstein, you get this whole community willing to hang all sorts of Sexological Constants, convoluted logic, and truly facially stupid notions, to demonstrate what they do or want is absolutely, under no circumstances, GAY. Cause that, of course, would be unspeakably horrible.

My suggestion is, the first time someone uttered the words, "her cock," with a straight face, that should have been the tip off that they were on some really, really thin ice. And maybe it was time to go back an re-check some of the initial assumptions. Abandon this illusion that they'd somehow transcended ancient, outdated, primitive notions of sex and sexuality and join the rest of the world in that place called - "Reality." This, it appears to me, is classic, "letting the little head think for the big one."

It's a gay thought or act. Dealwiddit and move on.


Just one opinion. I doubt I'll bring you around. "A man convinced against his will, and all that...."

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Are you calling me a man?

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He's been calling us all men, hon, either directly or indirectly. According to him, having a penis makes you a man no matter what, and two people with penises having sex are "gay" no matter what. That's exactly why he and I butted heads for the first time a few weeks ago. And he's never going to live it down on HA, just as Peggy Gee won't live down calling all pre-ops "untrue" transsexuals, and calling Phobun her "good friend".

This is NOT a post op forum, no matter how much they'd each like that to change. I know they must both be very lonely these days, but the can always leave if they don't like it. If not, I thnk that by all means they should stay and show us their true colors.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

having a penis makes you a man no matter what, and two people with penises having sex are "gay" no matter what.

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Thank you!

+1 :claps


*...although, technically, I've said the act is gay. I don't really have any idea how many gay acts you have to accrue before you get transformed into an official "gay." I'll leave that for someone else to noodle over.

** And, for the record, I never said B.S./A.G. was a man. At just over 18 y.o., I think Ashley's still pretty much a kid. Making very adult decisions mind you, but a kid.

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Originally Posted by jcinva

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

having a penis makes you a man no matter what, and two people with penises having sex are "gay" no matter what.

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Thank you!

+1 :claps


*...although, technically, I've said the act is gay. I don't really have any idea how many gay acts you have to accrue before you get transformed into an official "gay." I'll leave that for someone else to noodle over.

** And, for the record, I never said B.S./A.G. was a man. At just over 18 y.o., I think Ashley's still pretty much a kid. Making very adult decisions mind you, but a kid.

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I cannot believe I'm getting into this but I happen to like Nicole and I really don't like what you have to say.I think it's a shame that you clearly have no respect for any TRANSSEXUAL woman on this board or probably anywhere else.We aren't claiming to be genetic women , but we are women nonetheless.I am the ONLY one who can define myself.Call me a man thats fine . .call Nicole a man that's fine too we will just laugh at you.So tell me, what exactly is your agenda against transsexual women?You obviously have one judging by the nasty things you have to say to/about us.If you can't respect us I think you should probably leave this forum.I'll say this as kindly as I can(because unlike you I was brought up to respect others) You are not welcome here.

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Originally Posted by jcinva

I'll leave

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Later, homo. :claps

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Originally Posted by blonde_sweetheart

I cannot believe I'm getting into this but I happen to like Nicole and I really don't like what you have to say.I think it's a shame that you clearly have no respect for any TRANSSEXUAL woman on this board or probably anywhere else.We aren't claiming to be genetic women , but we are women nonetheless.I am the ONLY one who can define myself.Call me a man thats fine . .call Nicole a man that's fine too we will just laugh at you.So tell me, what exactly is your agenda against transsexual women?You obviously have one judging by the nasty things you have to say to/about us.If you can't respect us I think you should probably leave this forum.I'll say this as kindly as I can(because unlike you I was brought up to respect others) You are not welcome here.

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What agenda, what insult? Identifying myself as a "man" myself, I obviously don't find being a "man" as innately demeaning.

The "new age" notion that only you can define yourself is largely bullshit. It gets tossed around here as axiomatic because, well, here is this place.

I went into Bank of America the other day and "identified" myself as Bill Gates and they threw my ass out the door. Try "identifying yourself" as the wrong blood type should you ever need a transfusion. You can stamp your little feet that you're AB Pos, but look out when they pop in that needle.

I think I can respect and like a person without having to buy every bit and parcel of their beliefs and ideologies. I have some good friends who voted differently from me and have the audacity to drive different makes of cars. Just 'cause I find their automotive and political judgments somewhat suspect doesn't mean I don't respect them.

If you've decided that everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% disrespects you, you are in for one lonely, bitter ride. That bitch Suzy doesn't think Lance Bass is the dreamiest! Fuck her! What? Orange isn't Sarah's favorite color? Why, the nerve of her!

As far as welcome here or not -- nice of you to toss out your $.02, but like so many teens, I think you've overestimated your importance. You're cute, but this ain't your board. I'll stick around until I get the bum's rush from the owners. May happen. May not. I click an awful lot of banners.

For every guy like jcinva who considers all trans 'men', there's an overwhelming majority of us that think of you as women.

I wouldn't get too worked up over it, really.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by jcinva

I'll leave

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Later, homo. :claps

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What I don't get Nick, is you have the wherewithal to fabricate a quote that I, of course, didn't write,

and still you insist on writing the word "faggot," with one "g."

Does your browser come with no spell check?

Ya know, creating the appearance of literacy might help your argumentation a bit. Less the knuckle-dragging psycho.

Oh - and your homophobia is showing again. Gotta watch that. Very impolitic, specially 'round here.

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Originally Posted by jcinva

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by jcinva

I'll leave

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Later, homo. :claps

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What I don't get Nick, is you have the wherewithal to fabricate a quote that I, of course, didn't write,

and still you insist on writing the word "faggot," with one "g."

Does your browser come with no spell check?

Ya know, creating the appearance of literacy might help your argumentation a bit. Less the knuckle-dragging psycho.

Oh - and your homophobia is showing again. Gotta watch that. Very impolitic, specially 'round here.

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Shut up, fagit.