McCain chose a woman as VP

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Originally Posted by meghanchavalier

Well it didn't take long for the press to dig up dirt on her that's for sure.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/254/story/51144.html

Enjoy!

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This has been in the news since early July. This is biggest reason why I thought she was a odd choice. McCain must have known this going in so I guess he thinks it isn't true and has plans to fight this or his team is extremely stupid.

I would say plain stupid. I thought it was interesting that she said that she has lots of gay friends but isn't for gay marriage. I'm sorry but it's not a two way street, you either support the gay community or you don't. Flip flopping to appease the masses isn't acceptable.

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Originally Posted by meghanchavalier

I would say plain stupid. I thought it was interesting that she said that she has lots of gay friends but isn't for gay marriage. I'm sorry but it's not a two way street, you either support the gay community or you don't. Flip flopping to appease the masses isn't acceptable.

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So one can't own guns but be against the NRA? :( :wink:

Well, if you own a gun you already agree with alot of what the NRA stands for don't you think?

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Originally Posted by ottorocket

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Originally Posted by Legend

why didn't obama pick hillary clinton i mean wtf she had the numbers,experience and she was a woman?

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Hillary is like the third rail of politics...Clintons to many in general have a divisive nature to them, it would never fly in moderate/conservative circles on a GOP ticket.

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This is worth reposting here:

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

The thing about Hillary being vice president, as she should have been, is that she has high negative feelings among a strong element of US society/culture. This is because the Evil Empire has had 16 years to create negativity towards her. This is with the help of the Religious Wrong. They spent the full 8 years of her time as First Lady investigating her and never had evidence to file charges, (Whitewater). But that cloud of indictment did serve the Evil Empire. It kept up negative talk regarding her, so that other negative talk could stick. I heard negative stuff come out of Religious Wrong leader, Pat Robertson with my own ears, during that time.

As a example of my case, a religious associate directed me to google Hillary Clinton, and witchcraft, together. It you do, you will find multiple entries of sites addressing this topic, accusing her of dabbling in witchcraft. You may laugh, but there is a certain segment of people who would entertain that type of negative energy. So with that type of negative base, people are set to believe further lies. Lying is the basic nature of evil, by the way. The lies that are forthcoming in this election campaign will stick easier on someone like Hillary, who have already been market positioned, through the Republican media machine, since at least 1992.

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Originally Posted by meghanchavalier

Well, if you own a gun you already agree with alot of what the NRA stands for don't you think?

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Not necassarily. Its can not be mutually exclusive to own a gun and not agree with the social tenants of a large political organization.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on that one

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Originally Posted by meghanchavalier

I guess we'll agree to disagree on that one

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I don't see a conflict in that position really...it actually jibes with my personal decisions to not follow the traditional paths of either party or be a "true believer" as some may describe those who faithfully follow a party line. I have two gay friends who don't ascribe to gay marriage proposal here in California too so with regards differences in people and political organizations agenda's and beliefs its not all or nothing as many want others to beleive.

I'm not sure how someone who is gay would not believe that the community should not be afforded all of the same civil rights and liberties as every other american and that includes gay marriage.

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Originally Posted by meghanchavalier

I'm not sure how someone who is gay would not believe that the community should not be afforded all of the same civil rights and liberties as every other american and that includes gay marriage.

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I can't tell you why they believe that, it may be due to their religious upbringings or whatever, all i can tell you is they do support civil unions but not "marraige" in that sense. As i said...nothing is all or nothing and I respect your opinions on it, but all I'm saying is that I am not a soundbite voter or single issue voter, and i'm not alone in that i suppose.