Why are there SO FEW Getlemen Left?

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Originally Posted by TJ347

Same shit, different day... yet again.

To wish someone to behave like a gentleman, you must first be certain you behave like a lady. Not sure that's exactly how it goes, but I heard that saying a few times growing up, mostly from my grandmother and other women her age. Interestingly enough, they were passing this along to some of my female cousins, none of whom, I might add, are what I believe one could properly call "ladylike".

So, once again, it's a case of people expecting things that they haven't earned, which is, of course, nothing new. In a sentence, there's so few gentlemen left because there are so few ladies left... and without one, how long can you expect the other to exist?

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Morals, common courtesy and socially acceptable behavior are all completely subjective.


I agree, you reap what you sow and ladies aren't reaping many gentleman by reason of lack of sowing,.

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Originally Posted by braveman

No wonder men and women have trouble communicating. People on both sides are making generalizations. :roll:

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Not that that's new at all either, now is it? Anyway, my thing is (and I think a few other posters appear to be of a similar mindset), why do so many women confuse being a woman with being a lady, first off... And secondly, why is it that so many women think they're owed something for simply being women?

I don't disagree with Felicia that being a gentleman is something you should do without the expectation of any reward, but I believe that a woman who encounters a gentleman should be appreciative, which is all too often not the case, and thus we get "where are all the gentlemen" questions in various forms every now and again. Being appreciative of the courtesy of a gentleman is not giving him a reward... it's a part of being a lady. And if that is beyond the understanding of any woman, then she simply isn't a lady, like it or not.

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Originally Posted by braveman

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Originally Posted by Trans Mission

If only you were a "Hot, Hung angel" we could kiss and make up, but that is out of the question :wink:

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That last line was funny. :lol:

I'll make this brief> Yes I think we are generally in agreement.

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Thx-Braveman, I'm not into grinding personal axes online!

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Originally Posted by TJ347

To wish someone to behave like a gentleman, you must first be certain you behave like a lady.

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Yup. The thing is in the modern world men are very familiar with the kind of woman who thinks that ANY gesture that I would call simple good manners-- all the holding door, walk on the outside, let her go first things I do routinely-- is simple condescension. We have all, I suspect, been repaid our courtesy by a few cutting words of derision implying that as a woman she's good enough to open her own doors or whatever.

You get a radar for women like that and the first hint of it you just treat her like another guy, since that is what she obviously wants to be, or at least I do. I give anyone the benefit of the doubt the first time, but nobody fucks me around twice, so....

I'm not suggesting that any of the girls posting in this thread are anything other than ladylike but TJ is right. If women send men signals that making an effort is not appreciated, they'll stop.

:shrug

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Originally Posted by arnie666

There are so few gentlemen left because there are so many women thinking it is perfectly acceptable to piss in the street , commentate at football matches and cheer at a boxing match when one bloke gets knocked out when they should rightly feel faint. ...

I expect there are still ladies out there , but there are far too many geezer birds muddying the water for them. You can't have it both ways girls, know your limits.

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Heard this once:
"You don't have to hold the door open for me just because I'm a woman"
"No, I have to because I'm a gentleman"

We as woman are not entitled to special treatment just because we are woman. Courtesy goes both ways. Woman expect too much and very few are willing to give anything back in return. If a guy opens the car door for you, (say thank you) and you had better lean over and unlock his door.

If a guy buys you a drink, buy him one. The guy I'm with is a gentleman, he will hold my arm, open doors for me, let me order first, etc etc etc, but I also buy him dinner occasionally, buy two tickets so we can see his Milwaukee Bucks play, cook for him, run to the door to kiss him, buy him cards , or slip a cute note in his jacket pocket saying thank you for that something special he did for me . Simply put I appreciate everything he does for me. Men love to feel appreciated as well, and not just graced by our presence GIRLS!

I believe that all people should be treated with respect regardless of Gender, age, race , or creed. Thats what this society is lacking and we should work on that as well, and start behaving more like Humans than animals.

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

It seems like plain and simple manners amongst most men are gone these days...

Wha tever happened to opening doors for a lady- pulling her chair out to sit- or standing when a lady leaves the table????

I'm lucky that my BF is one-

But I find bad manners amongst men rampant these days-

Especially YOUNG men.

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MOST WOMEN ARE ANNOYED AT GUYS OPENING DOORS FOR THEM THESE DAYS.

THEY DON'T NEED US EVER SINCE VIBRATORS CAME ONTO THE SCENE.

BUT I AM A GENTLEMAN. 100%

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Originally Posted by wombat33

MOST WOMEN ARE ANNOYED AT GUYS OPENING DOORS FOR THEM THESE DAYS.

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Really? REALLY????


I've never, ever, ever, ever encountered someone being angry at someone for holding the door open for them. Never seen it, never heard of it. EVER.

I don't know where you live, but I live in Los Angeles. Everyone is self centered here and I still see people say thank you when the door is opened for them.

AND.... if I am going through the door first, I will hold it open for the next person, female OR male.

I guess that makes me a gentleman.

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Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS

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Originally Posted by wombat33

MOST WOMEN ARE ANNOYED AT GUYS OPENING DOORS FOR THEM THESE DAYS.

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Really? REALLY????


I've never, ever, ever, ever encountered someone being angry at someone for holding the door open for them. Never seen it, never heard of it. EVER.

I don't know where you live, but I live in Los Angeles. Everyone is self centered here and I still see people say thank you when the door is opened for them.

AND.... if I am going through the door first, I will hold it open for the next person, female OR male.

I guess that makes me a gentleman.

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I hold doors for people all the time no matter what sex too- and I always say thank you and am polite-

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Originally Posted by wombat33

THEY DON'T NEED US EVER SINCE VIBRATORS CAME ONTO THE SCENE.

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Great response. Lol