Occupy Wall Street protest

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Originally Posted by BigDF

The only people laughing about this are people who are ignorant of our own history. The fact that you keep calling them hippies reveals your own ignorance of fairly recent history. This grassroots movement is spreading across the country and it will continue to grow as they get further organized. :geek:

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Indeed sad that a people who founded a progessive country have forgotten their roots and allowed the same type of mentality against which they rebelled to infect the society.

Worse that those who would keep the current status quo of the richer getting richer and the poor getting poorer are likely never going to even get anywhere near the top of the 1%.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Worse that those who would keep the current status quo of the richer getting richer and the poor getting poorer are likely never going to even get anywhere near the top of the 1%.

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QFT. We should always strive to do better than the status quo.

~BB~

I posted the link below in another thread - the results of study showing how much of the world's is controlled by a select few corporations. I think it helps prove how little power is actually invested in the general population. We may 'vote' politicians into power but who controls the wealth of a country? Given the goal of every corporation is financial growth, who ensures that the means it employs to become richer doesn't harm the greater population?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...the-world.html

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I posted the link below in another thread - the results of study showing how much of the world's is controlled by a select few corporations. I think it helps prove how little power is actually invested in the general population. We may 'vote' politicians into power but who controls the wealth of a country? Given the goal of every corporation is financial growth, who ensures that the means it employs to become richer doesn't harm the greater population?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...the-world.html

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These same dynamics control many industries as well, particularly the entertainment business, and most definitely including the adult entertainment business. :geek:

~BB~

you know, a strike here in the US is considered a dirty word.

One way to understand who is part of the OWS movement is to organize 7-day strikes consecutively, not concurrently, in major economic sectors: transportation (commercial & mass transit), manufacture, information technology, service sector (doormen, security guards, waiters, janitors, etc), small businesses (dry cleaners, shop owners, mechanics, etc), and so forth....

This is obviously unrealistic - everyone would get fired - but you would get a much clearer idea of who this is affecting

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

QFT. We should always strive to do better than the status quo.

~BB~

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What is QFT?

We should strive to do better than the status quo but also be open to the forms that 'better' take.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

What is QFT?

We should strive to do better than the status quo but also be open to the forms that 'better' take.

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QFT= quoted for truth.

~BB~

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Originally Posted by robertlouis

:iagree::iagree::iagree: with every single word. Well said, Trish.

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That's Elizabeth Warren's shtick, but how would she know...she's never spent a day outside of a think tank or university classroom in her life ! It sounds real good Trish, that collectivism routine, but upon further inspection, it's falls flat. First off...unless you're Jeff Immelt and GE, corporations pay corporate federal tax, local city and real estate tax as well... based on the assessment of the value of their buildings and property. The trucks they use to ship their goods pay the federal fuel tax on each gallon of fuel, as well as a hefty fuel permit every year. All that is earmarked for highway improvement. If it's not getting there...that's hardly the corporations fault. Ever seen the tax bill for a company with a large facility or office complex in a nice suburb ? It's staggering. Additionally they're paying half of each employees FICA tax, and probably a good chuck of the health care costs of their employees. The notion that corporations don't pay their share, or are not contributing makes for good speeches, and will get you some cred down in The Park, , but it's baseless and foolish. True some of them have moved offshore, but they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to keep costs and profits inline. That's something that Obama could do tomorrow, ( help repatriate corporate profits ), but he won't. Additionally corporations I deal with contribute millions to charities, many of whom could not exist without large corporate donations. These folks wringing their hands about corporate profits make me laugh. Instead of complaining, join in on the windfall. Instead of buying I phones and I pads why not buy some share of stocks in these companies ? Most of them are publicly traded and would be more than happy to sell you a part of their company. That's how it's done Trish. That's capitalism.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

That's Elizabeth Warren's shtick, but how would she know...she's never spent a day outside of a think tank or university classroom in her life ! It sounds real good Trish, that collectivism routine, but upon further inspection, it's falls flat. First off...unless you're Jeff Immelt and GE, corporations pay corporate federal tax, local city and real estate tax as well... based on the assessment of the value of their buildings and property. The trucks they use to ship their goods pay the federal fuel tax on each gallon of fuel, as well as a hefty fuel permit every year. All that is earmarked for highway improvement. If it's not getting there...that's hardly the corporations fault. Ever seen the tax bill for a company with a large facility or office complex in a nice suburb ? It's staggering. Additionally they're paying half of each employees FICA tax, and probably a good chuck of the health care costs of their employees. The notion that corporations don't pay their share, or are not contributing makes for good speeches, and will get you some cred down in The Park, , but it's baseless and foolish. True some of them have moved offshore, but they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to keep costs and profits inline. That's something that Obama could do tomorrow, ( help repatriate corporate profits ), but he won't. Additionally corporations I deal with contribute millions to charities, many of whom could not exist without large corporate donations. These folks wringing their hands about corporate profits make me laugh. Instead of complaining, join in on the windfall. Instead of buying I phones and I pads why not buy some share of stocks in these companies ? Most of them are publicly traded and would be more than happy to sell you a part of their company. That's how it's done Trish. That's capitalism.

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are these people the yes brigade because that's all they do is agree with each other?

Ever see GE tax bill. It's staggeringly small.