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martin48
I wont diagnose another’s mental condition from a distance, but you need to take stock of your feelings and thoughts. Talk to friends – talking is good
Agreed.
I'm fully expecting and prepared to receive a volley of abuse from Babe the next time she's online for my post, but I'm not the first on here to point out her apparently delusional state.
Whether from friends or professionals, she needs a reality check and it has to be done "offline", not on an internet forum.
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I saw this tonight. And i thought to share it so everyone can say,
"WOW, BABE! What a find! WOW!! You're so wonderful!"
To which i would humbly say to the masses of adoring fans,
"Yes, yes, i know. I know, Thank you...and to think i was turned into the "dumbest dipshit on the internet". Okay, first, i want to thank God, that almighty alien in the BIGGEST spaceship around. And, i want to thank my mom and dad for beating me so hard over the head and fracturing my skull when i was only a 3 month old infant. And i REALLY want to thank the doctors and nurses in the Children's Hospital intensive care unit where i was for two weeks, they really helped me. And i want to thank the academy, and of course, and all of my peers for making it all possible and ...."
If you aren’t being facetious, then you have my sincere sympathy. Facetious or not, I do not regret anything I’ve said to you because I spoke with deliberation and within a context (albeit sometimes with exasperation). E.g. I never called you the dumbest dipshit on the internet: that was the conclusion you chose to draw from an if-then-statement with a premise that was easy to negate.
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I really can't understand why so called "intelligent" people "choose" to believe
I really don’t understand why people “choose” to believe anything at all? For me, belief is something that happens or it doesn’t. I look at the evidence, examine the arguments and will either find it convincing, not convincing or dissonant. One can believe there are greys living in giant caverns miles beneath the surface of the Earth, they attacked Phil Schneider and killed sixty six armed Secret Service agents in the Dulce Wars...or one can not believe it...or one can believe it never happened. I do not choose to believe it never happened: the hilarious dissonance of the story compels me to disbelief.
Beliefs constrain action. Often in good ways. If I believe at this moment it’s not safe to cross the street, I won’t cross the street until I think it’s safe. I won’t just chose to believe it’s safe. I’ll look and the evidence will decide. I can be wrong. I may overlook a vehicle speeding around the corner.
If I believe Phil Schneider’s story is false, I won’t bother arming myself with semi-automatic weapons and hand grenades on my next spelunking trip. I may be wrong, but right now I think I’m safer if I leave the armaments behind.
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Dahlia Babe Ailhad
You, Stavros, are propagating the lies told by those lying journalists and NASA officials. I have no idea why you would do that. Do you somehow feel like it's your duty to do so? To what end?...what would you gain by doing so?...Know-it-all status?
Whether you believe that ETs and UFOs have visited Earth or not, you seem to be immune to the complete absence of undeniable evidence that these events have happened; you ignore the motives of those whose only real interest is to make money from other people's curiosity, or who have a religious agenda, just as you ignore every simple proof that the UFO was a weather balloon, or that the alien from Venus is a dude from Colorado, or that a 400 year old Venusian woman with special powers used to be a barmaid from Chicago.
Face the facts and consider this, an adaptation of a famous quote from John Maynard Keynes, in which I have dropped the gender specific part of the question:
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?
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Hi rodinuk,
Thanks, but no, i think the poll is fine the way it is.
What i think is, actually, preventing folks from voting is the ridicule factor that is so very present in this thread. Too many forum bullies, insulting, to no end.
You can certainly use your mighty powers to ask the many haters of THIS thread, and of me, to stop harassing me. Maybe then, other people would feel MUCH more comfortable with expressing their beliefs about the thread topic.
This thread has been dominated by some pretty rude, intrusive people who seem to think they can continually harass someone for expressing her views. And they don't let up, do they? They just keep on coming back with more. I don't welcome such insults or low-level confrontational behavior.
When a comment is made which i have not already addressed, i'll address it, like i've done with Stavors' link about Mr Coopers's either being a liar or a fraud or whatever he's tried to say with his slanderous link against Mr Cooper.
I don't see why i have to be faced with such nasty criticism and actually be expected or forced to deal with some of the obviously insincere comments. I don't think i deserve it all.
I don't come to a forum to fight or argue, and it certainly seems to me that the main antagonists in this thread only wish to insult me in anyway they can to invoke a fight or argument which will result with me being banned, AGAIN.
I have used the function, offered by the site, to ignore most of them, by now, anyway, because i can't read such continuous hatred and feel good inside of me. If they don't like what i post, maybe they should create their own threads on the topic of UFOs and aliens and use that as a channel for their beliefs - i will not go there to bash their opinions.
Maybe if their UFO thread(s) can out-do my thread's popularity (or view count), perhaps they will have made their point.
But i tend to think people know, and like, how i write, as i like to entertain, and i DO respectfully respond to peoples' comments with grace and respect, well, until they exhaust it by continuously trying to find fault with me. I call that jealousy, plain and simple.
I am basically a harmless, little, cutey pie who is not nasty, at all, in nature. My heart is pure, as are my intentions.
I can take criticism easily if it's presented politely, but lately, i've seen the wolves in sheep's clothing going for my throat and i CAN'T figure out WHY.
They act as though this thread (or maybe my presence) insults their very existence.
I will simply turn my head to that, and continue to address the better behaved, gentlemen members of HungAngels.
I've been dealing, pretty much, with the bottom feeders, in my opinion. I am not saying that every person who has commented on my posts, or who have spoken to me are "bottom feeders", but the ones who continuously try to engage me in stupid fights or silly debates certainly are (in MY opinion).
I don't do well with bottom feeders as we obviously read from different menus. I like to take the high road not the low road.
It seems that the type of men i am more accustomed to dealing with are the higher class gentlemen who know better than to get involved in such open forums where the forum rules are often overlooked when it comes to harassment, bullying, name-calling and insults.
Real gentlemen would never think of throwing the things that i have stated about my past right into my face with the intent to publicly insult or further hurt me, like i have just witnessed. I only offered that little tidbit of personal information to show the forum how these wolves really are. I knew they would jump on it with both feet. Such ungentlemanly behavior from such swine was totally expected.
I am a survivor in life. I should have been dead a long time ago. Sorry to disaappoint many of the louder,ruder members (and one particular mod) in here.
I have only shared a molecular part of my personal turbulent existence and already these wolves only use such information to try to hurt and embarrass me (sighs).
Such backhanded sympathy is neither requested nor required.
Thanks, anyway, rodinuk, for offering to rephrase my poll questions. You are a sweety (i think).
However, it was ONLY broncofan (of course) who had mentioned that he would vote only if the poll questions were not "loaded", and yet, he still voted, didn't he? As if a poll in a frikken forum ABOUT UFOs lol has to be phrased in JUST the right way is utterly hilarious, really.
Some people obviously really need to get lives.
Of course i think he voted only because he was so sure no one would vote, and that his NO vote would contribute to the NOs outnumbering the YES votes. And he calls me a child, lol (giggles).
And any one can rate my posts down to try to influence any members viewing my member profile who will see so many negative post ratings and think, "Ooooh, what a nasty biatch this Dahlia Babe Ailhad must be." So wrong!!
That is an obvious abuse of a forum function done only to create hatred towards a member. And i am called a child? My gosh!
But all anybody has to do is to actually READ what i've written and they will notice NOTHING nasty with 99.99% of my posts.
It's true, though, i do have a child-like nature.
I am pure in my heart and in my thoughts and intentions.
When i see a very young baby on a bus, say, under 5 years old, i can always make them smile with only eye contact and a couple of silly faces, as children can see right into your soul just by looking into and studying your eyes - and they do just that - children study the eyes to see inside the soul. Watch them next time.
Kids love me because i am child-like. And i like having that quality.
I can be serious, too, but to me being "serious" does not entail destroying others.
And if people don't want their insults re-posted, then why not JUST STOP insulting others.
Otherwise, stand by what you've written. You composed and posted your insults, not me.
Anyway, back to you, there, rodinuk, sorry, i got a little side-tracked, there.
Rod, with some moderation for a while, i think this thread will be just fine.
I welcome you to go into my account and view my ignore list and take note to whom and whose comments i will no longer not be responding.
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To the bottom feeders,
Please note:
If you post comments that i don't respond to after several days, you've probably been ignored by me, and you should probably move on to pester other "targets" of your disapproval. I have no time or desire to fight with you. I got sucked into it a few times, thinking some of you were being sincere, by you tricked me into fighting when i didn't even know you were actually fighting with me. It's clear now to me, and i have cut you all out of my view.
If you want to sit there and try to convince the forum that i can't deal with issues like an adult, and accuse me of not responding to your criticisms or comments, then i invite ANYONE to read this thread, or any thread i've created, from the beginning, and see for yourselves, my genuine willingness and grace to participate.
After a while, though, i must turn the page when all i see is hatred from you people.
I do not come here to be hated, and if you do hate me, then, that is a feeling YOU have to deal with, because i have no desire to experience YOUR self hatred projected onto me, and no desire to deal with your apparent lack of self-respect.
EVERYONE is watching you!!
So, gone on, bottom-feeders. Go on and rate all my posts down, as if i give a hoot lol.
If i could rate my OWN posts down, i would rate them all down - every last one of them.
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Stavros
What do you do?
Hey Starvos,
I've showed you what i do. I study your presented "facts". I've only seen (so far) mostly the misinformation you've provided, and then i've presented what i found right back to you.
Don't you even read what i post or are ya too busy playing the "argument game" for the mere fun of it?
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I have to address the things you said in your post Dahlia.
Just for the record, I voted no because that is my belief, even though the answer was clearly phrased in a way to discourage other people from voting the same way. I decided it was better to vote (afterall the counter-argument included in the answer does not change the meaning of the response just the way it's framed). I abhor the way you conducted the poll only because it's dishonest, but then you do not have a problem being dishonest.
You say you can take criticism but only if it's said in a particular way. I've seen zero evidence of that...that you can take criticism but only if there's a solar eclipse or if the person follows the criticism with a stream of compliments to negate it. Fact: You can't take criticism. You can't buck disagreement. You insult people as much as they insult you except your insults tend not to ring true.
What you presented about your childhood was presented as the classic no-win scenario. The people who expressed sympathy were expressing sympathy you didn't want or need. Those who said they thought talking about it with professionals might be helpful were exploiting it. But why did you bring it up? Does it somehow make a point relevant to this thread? Oh I see, to show the forum how these "wolves really are". Another experiment, except the responses all were appropriate and compassionate.
Why is it do you think nobody ever agrees with your personal behavior (forget the views)? Despite all of your self-serving talk about being a kind person and everyone else deserving shame, why is that nobody else' perception?
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broncofan
What you presented about your childhood was presented as the classic no-win scenario.
Had nobody said anything at all about it, I bet you'd have noted that and said that people had no consideration for what you went through. It was a social experiment with a pre-determined conclusion.
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Babe,
I assume I’m on your ignore list so you can’t read this. We both know of course that you won’t be able to resist having a look though. ;)
I stand by everything I’ve said in both this thread and the “6 million Jews” thread. All of my posts have been open and honest and are there for everyone else to read and judge for themselves the same as yours are. There’s no insincerity or hidden meanings within them as you seem to be suggesting. Anything further you read into them is entirely down to your own interpretation.
I certainly don’t “hate” you and find it quite offensive that you could even consider that. I and others have tried to educate you but have effectively met with a brick wall of denial and a complete "head in the sand" attitude that has led to a degree of frustration and at times irritation with you. I accept that you truly believe that Aliens exist, have visited Earth and have lived among us for years. It’s your refusal to consider even the possibility that much of the “evidence” you post to prove this has perfectly natural and/or rational explanations and your refusal to engage in a proper debate that absolutely staggers me. Under different circumstances I might actually admire your resolute determination to stick to your beliefs even in the face of irrefutable proof and insurmountable odds. Custer’s Last Stand and the Charge of the Light Brigade spring to mind. What they both have in common of course is that they too were ultimately doomed.
As for any insults that have been thrown around, If I offended you at any point then I apologise. However, you threw a fair few insults in my direction and at least I kept what I said in the open and didn’t resort to a tantrum by PM…
One last question, will you now only allow and respond to posters in your threads who agree with your point of view? If so, that’s not going to lead too much of a discussion, is it?
Now admit it, you’ll be lonely and bored without us. :)
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Hi every(pleasant)body,
Poor Robin Wiliams was trying to explain "conflict" but the two-headed hairy monster(s) just didn't understand because they are too nice with one another.
It did all work out in the end, though.
If only he was still around, he could have used this thread to illustrate conflict. Only thing is, like the two-headed monster, i don't want to participate in any conflict.
Anyhooossss, all of yooooosss.
LOOK what i've found! Oooooooh, i am justa curling my little toes in joy at this find as a section of it comes FROM MY OWN CITY.
YES!! It DOES! It discusses the Hotel Bonaventure UFO incident from years ago when a UFO was hovering over one of our major Montréal hotels.
Maybe their room wasn't ready - i dunno.
Most of it is in the Québec French language but don't worry, there is a "Hanglish" translation overdubbed hinto da veedio. Ahh tabaouette i tink high ham losing ma Henglish, eer.
Non, non, der is no French strippers in dis veedio, hokay?! Ehn, i am dont saying ockey like wit da puck on da h-ice, high av saying "HOKAY".
Hokay? You hunderstand me, now?
Hokay, put on your Frensh berét and grab your bol of poutine and ...les go to Montréal to listen to da Frensh policeguy talking habout da big yoo ef ho dat was overing hover da big otel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Hj8pUU-HU
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Dahlia Babe Ailhad
Hey Starvos,
I've showed you what i do. I study your presented "facts". I've only seen (so far) mostly the misinformation you've provided, and then i've presented what i found right back to you.
Don't you even read what i post or are ya too busy playing the "argument game" for the mere fun of it?
You started this thread on alien life, but show no genuine interest in it, or any of the scientific arguments about our cosmos and what we know about it, and whether or not alien life forms exist somewhere -which, if you look again, you will find most of us agree is possible. It is evident that your primary interest is in what you believe is a conspiracy by the US government to prevent you from knowing 'the truth' -that aliens have visited Earth- even though on all of the evidence, including the so-called 'evidence' cited in many of your links, this is just pure fantasy or part of a money-making scheme. In real life, yes, there are government cover-ups, mostly to avoid exposing the embarrassment of incompetent officials and agencies and the waste of money that goes on in Washington DC, London, Paris, Ottawa, Moscow. Just this week in the UK we have had the former head of policing at a football match in 1989 in which people died, admitting that on the day he was not competent to do the job, and has lied about those events for 26 years, something of far greater seriousness and importance than an ex-barmaid from Chicago claiming to be a 400-year old Venusian with the special insight into how we Earthlings can be nice to each other, and asking you to pay her to know how...
...none of which will do anything to change your passionate search for something that is not there.
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It occurred to me, Babe, that a number of your claims surround the fact that you believe that Aliens are secretly controlling the Government of the USA from behind the scenes. Assuming this were true, that would make the Aliens themselves responsible for the cover ups and for much of the mess this planet is in, not the Government, as you claim. The Government would merely be blameless puppets controlled by their Alien masters. Can you then really blame the Aliens for covering up all the evidence of their existence? If I was them, I’d be quite embarrassed by the terrible job they are doing of managing Earth. I'd want to hide the fact and divert the blame onto someone else.
Discuss. (of course you can’t because you’re not reading this ;) )
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Good morning Stavros and (most) everyone else,
Every time i type your name i am reminded of that 1970s television show starring Telly Savalas as a detective named, Kojak.
There was another detective in the same precinct, named Stavros, on that show at whom Kojak would always scream to retrieve something. Stavros was played by George Savalas, Telly's real-life brother.
On youtube, you can search for a full episode of Kojak and you can hear Kojak screaming at Stavros to get stuff. It was a dramatic show, not a comedic show.
I'd like to scream at you Stavros, sometimes, to tell you to "WAKE UP! PAY ATTENTION!!" lol
How can you say that i am NOT interested in a discussion? I have most respectfully replied to practically every response, and in immense detail, sometimes. When someone presents a link, i've actually taken time out of my day to read those many links, and some of those links were way out in left field and really boring topics for me to read (thermodynamics for instance), and i've even quoted the text from the borrrrrring text and responded to their points in some detail. And what did i get back in return, nothing but more "mindless" arguments. Some were good i'll admit.
It seems they just post names of books expecting me to be absent from the forum for days or weeks while i read 4 or 5 book suggestions lol. I am not that gullible, y'know?...(Oh, i should go read that book too?...oh okay, duhhhh, i'll go read these book JUST for you" lol.) Get real! They can't even read my comments, it seems, but i am supposed to go out and read books on what THEY think is relevant.
Sadly, though, the more dominant people have been basically needlessly "arguing" with me about "what i believe in" and they have even resorted to saying i am "hopeless" for not believing in Darwin's Theory of Evolution just because they do (totally uncalled for), and calling me "the dumbest dipshit on the internet" for basically disagreeing with another's opinion (internet bullying). Un-frikken-believable, man.
Stavros, i have commented on your comments which most were all proven to be inaccurate, but i, rather, doubt you even read the stuff you post, or what i post, for the most part. You "seem" to look at the main point and then go digging on the internet for anything to try to debunk it. Then you accuse me of getting it all wrong.
THAT, my dear, is not showing interest in having an intelligent discussion, in my opinion.
As far as "arguments" go, i don't wish to "argue" because that only leads to name calling, as we have clearly seen with these dominant-type "forum warriors" who seem to think "it's their way or take the high-way"...hmmm, actually, THAT approach would be much more respectful behavior than what they have demonstrated with their low-level, high-school-corridor defamation" of my character and self-worth. That, is, also, not what i call "intelligent discussion". I call that intelligent and cleverly calculated bashing of someone's persona and of my self-impression, and i don't play that nasty hurtful "game" either.
There are so many evil names that i can call many of the members, in here, if i chose to speak my mind as freely as many others do. I've read their words as they attack others and rate posts down just for expressing themselves, what a volatile place this can be. I am not here to hurt anyone.
I had, mistakenly, considered fred41 to be a low-life troll, but he turned out to be quite a gentleman, in a way, as he doesn't FORCE his hatred onto others. He just ignores them. Sincere kudos to fred41 for not trying to destroy another person's self-image. THAT is respectful. Many people should learn from that gentlemanly behavior - like, if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say it...i am sure he doesn't like me, but i am so glad he doesn't feel as though he has to shove his hatred down my throat because of it.
Fred41 takes the high road (when it's brought to his attention that he's offended someone). Now, there's a well-brought up guy. I like that. It's too bad for me if i may have offended him, as he really "seems" to possess a very gentle soul, after all. But that's what happens when some people run with a pack of "rats", trying to fit in - they get mistaken for a rat.
Anyway, Stavros, i am quite not sure exactly from where you are coming from most of the time, you seem to just want to argue for the sake of arguing like the few others do. If that's the case, sweety, i won't be responding to you, either, in the near future because i get pretty bored of someone constantly trying to discredit me, or make me appear as someone who is not "adult enough" to communicate with, or that i "don't pay attention" to what so-called "decent people" posts.
I feel as though i pay a little bit TOO much attention to the comments to which i pay attention.
I am an extremely sensitive person and that is not always a good thing, but it's who i am - who i turned out to be in life.
I spent most of my life alone trying to catch up with "ma lurnin'" and trying to figure out what was going around me in social interactions as i never really went to school and experienced all of that "socializing" that you all did in high school and college, as i never went to high school as a teenager - ever. So i missed out on that aspect of growing up. It certainly doesn't make me a dummy, or someone unworthy of basic courtesy. It makes me a person who has a very different outlook on life as i see things through different, rose-colored lenses.
For someone, like me, who's led a pretty much abused, rather underprivileged upbringing in life, i sure did end up once being a part of an incredibly prestigious (call it a) "society". A place most of you only hear about on TV, in movies or in the news. Not that i was a "key player" or anything like that, but i was exposed to some of it and was a member of it, and i've even kept my ID card as proof (they wanted it back, but i kept it as a proof to where i have been in my life), which i sometimes "show-off" lol to my close friends who are not a part of my (escort) personal life. I can't get into any of that in any great detail because there are too many "unknown, hidden characters" in forums like these.
Stavros, your very first comment to me in December 2014 was a pleasant one if i remember correctly, but, as soon as i brought up that Valiant Thor topic, you've been posting to me like i am some sort of air head dumdum, and i am becoming quite tired of it all.
As far as i am concerned, most, not all, but most of your "points of" (what you call) "discussion" in this thread have been rather negative and very argumentative. The kind of comments i dislike.
AND, no, i don't need to have people only agreeing with me. It's certainly okay to have people disagreeing with me (if done politely).
BUT it's NOT okay (with me) when they keep on and on and on disagreeing with me and everything i say over and over and over again and calling me names when i don't agree with them, or if i maintain my opinion.
People should give it a frikken rest, already.
If you disagree, do so, then leave. Don't hang around spitting at me and expect me to bare my claws and attack you like i've read in here, just recently.
I don't like to feel like a captured animal placed in a cage and have fools rattling my cage JUST to see how angry they can make me or to see how i will behave - now that's frikken childish. Refusing to play the role of captured, caged and tortured animal is NOT childish. That is having self dignity. And, knowing what others are trying to do ESPECIALLY when they've frikken openly admitted it on the forum in this thread - which is about UFOs and aliens - i have to deal with the teen-aged mentality of someone saying, "I am expecting and fully ready for her abuse" - Hey laddy, go easy on the coffee, there. That is the behavior that should be moderated as i am being openly victimized. I will not agree to be your plaything unless it's a sexual one, and you will pay dearly for that privilege to be with "dumb dipshit" little me.
Stavros, it's the tones, after all, which create the music.
Continuous discordant intervals of musical tones makes the composition difficult to bear as it lacks harmony, unless we are discussing counterpoint, in which case, there is a specific formulaic balance of discordance which can actually make the composition much more appealing to the ear as it offers a variety of tones and makes the harmonious and discordant intervals much more rewarding. It's like Thai cuisine and how they balance the sweet with the sour with the salty and the fiery elements of each dish.
I am not seeing much of that type of balance, in here, lately. It's become, in my opinion, a Babe-bash-fest - "Let's all get her and show her how stupid she really is, and how childish we think she is, and we'll all make everyone think she is self important and self absorbed".
An escort who is not self absorbed? Geez does that even exist?
I do not consider myself as "self important" or "better than anyone" what-so-ever. I just feel confident about myself and that's about it. You people feel as if i need to be knocked down a few pegs so that i DON'T feel as self confident as i do?
I have been accused and BANNED for "absolutely irritating self promotion"? WHERE? With flirty sign-offs using animated .gifs, and flirty, sometimes suggestive words in some of my posts?
I have not even begun to advertise myself as an escort, yet, meaning with an actual escort profile or a website. What will happen then? I'll be banned for having a website, or an online escort profile to PROMOTE myself and my sexual services?
Anyway Stavros
{Spoken with a high-class Belgravian (London) accent}
"Breakfast is served, sir! Your bowl of fruity-colored Cheerios, sir. If you need anything else, sir, i shall be waiting for the bell, sir."
As you watch my bum swaying from side-to-side from under my French maid uniform, i see the reflection of your eyes in the mirror near the door switching from my butt to Roger Ramjet on the television.
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The poll should have had a few more answers to choose from. I think it's possible there are aliens, maybe even likely, but I can't prove they've ever visited here. Alien life forms may not necessarily be senitient beings, it could be bacteria sized organisms, who knows?
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Hi wearboots4me,
Welcome to the thread.
NEW MEAT to taste! Mmmmmm, yummy yummy.
Thanks for your much appreciated post.
I think they either exist and have been visiting planet Earth for a very long time - MUCH longer than before the USA dropped those atomic bombs on Japan in 1945, because there are just too many historically documented artifacts that have existed in almost every culture on Earth which illustrate alien crafts and beings. Even the Bible talks of the Elohim and Nephilim.
If people believe that, then the poll response should be a simple "yes"
If people don't believe they exist and have been coming to earth then the poll response should be a simple "no".
I disagree that the poll should have different choices because my questions are simple.
I did consider offering various choices, trust me. But i've decided to keep it simple - they do exist and visit, or they don't?
There has been, and still are new, sightings worldwide to say they come here.
And if THEY visit here, then THEY must exist! Right?
Whatever they are, if they visit, they visit and they exist.
How can someone admit that UFOs are seen the skies all over the planet but in the same breath say, they do not exist?
Know what meannnn, jelly beannnn?
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Originally Posted by
wearboots4me
The poll should have had a few more answers to choose from. I think it's possible there are aliens, maybe even likely, but I can't prove they've ever visited here. Alien life forms may not necessarily be senitient beings, it could be bacteria sized organisms, who knows?
If I were writing it I would write
I think extra-terrestrial beings have visited Earth
I do not think extra-terrestrial beings have visited Earth, regardless of whether extra-terrestrial life exists.
The only thing this would not clarify is the distinction between believing that aliens have visited Earth but not believing the most common testimonials and folklore. For instance, maybe you think various unexplained phenomena (stonehenge etc.) are indirect evidence of interference by intelligent beings, even though you do not believe various other tales of ufo spottings or high level conspiracies. But I think this is the cleanest bifurcation we could make.
As you say, another good question is, do you think it's probable that life exists outside of Earth. I think many of us think it's probable.
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Originally Posted by
wearboots4me
The poll should have had a few more answers to choose from. I think it's possible there are aliens, maybe even likely, but I can't prove they've ever visited here. Alien life forms may not necessarily be senitient beings, it could be bacteria sized organisms, who knows?
Pretty much echo's my opinion. 22 pages of thread summed up nicely in just 3 lines... :)
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I do not give an (unidentified) flying fuck either way :whistle:
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Originally Posted by
Dahlia Babe Ailhad
I'd like to scream at you Stavros, sometimes, to tell you to "WAKE UP! PAY ATTENTION!!" lol
How can you say that i am NOT interested in a discussion? I have most respectfully replied to practically every response, and in immense detail, sometimes. .
Your posts remind me of that comment Montaigne once made -I was going to write you a short note but I did not have time, so I have written you a long one instead...
In fact you do not discuss the points I raised, and the Valiant Thor issue provides an example, because it was clearly part of the Evangelical work that Frank Stranges was doing that mattered most to him, with the alien visitation being an essential part of his Christian message at a time of Cold War intensity; but you have never addressed either the historical context in which Valiant Thor arrived to save mankind, nor the underlying Christian foundations of the idea. In addition, you have not to my knowledge discussed the real possibilities of alien life in the universe, perhaps because a Martian version of a prawn doesn't have the allure of a superbly intelligent Venusian with a cure for cancer he doesn't want to share with non-Americans.
If you present a thread here which is based on such a lack of evidence, produced by a generation of charlatans, frauds, fantasists, anti-government whackos and hustlers looking to separate you from your money, don't be surprised if you attract negative comment. And I have never seen an episode of Kojak, and don't intent to now.
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Hi wearboots4me,
Oops, i just realized an error in my text which i have corrected with a slightly larger red font, and i also added something in red to address your bacteria life-form comment.
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Originally Posted by
Dahlia Babe Ailhad
Hi wearboots4me,
I think they either exist and have been visiting planet Earth for a very long time - MUCH longer than before the USA dropped those atomic bombs on Japan in 1945, because there are just too many historically documented artifacts that have existed in almost every culture on Earth which illustrate alien crafts and beings. Even the Bible talks of the Elohim and Nephilim.
If people believe that, then the poll response should be a simple "yes"
If people don't believe they exist and have NOT been coming to earth then the poll response should be a simple "no".
I disagree that the poll should have different choices because my questions are simple.
I did consider offering various choices, trust me. But i've decided to keep it simple - they do exist and visit, or they don't?
There has been, and still are new, sightings worldwide to say they come here.
And if THEY visit here, then THEY must exist! Right?
Whatever they are, whether they are in the form of bacteria, humanoid, animal form like bunny rabbits or kangaroos, plant based entities lol...WHAT EVER they are, if they visit Earth, then they must exist.
I think there are many kinds of aliens.
How can someone admit that UFOs are seen the skies all over the planet but in the same breath say, they do not exist?
If people believe aliens exist in other galaxies BUT do not come to Earth, then their poll response should be "no" because the poll question here is mostly based on "do they visit Earth?"
If any wants different poll questions, go create another thread more to your satisfaction. I really like the poll questions in this poll JUST the way they are.
As a matter of fact, i've ressurected an old thread in the general discussion forum which basically asks what you want.
Babe,
http://www.merc.ca/vbulletin/images/smilies/lips.gif
xoxo
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Originally Posted by
Stavros
Your posts remind me of that comment Montaigne once made -I was going to write you a short note but I did not have time, so I have written you a long one instead...
In fact you do not discuss the points I raised, and the Valiant Thor issue provides an example, because it was clearly part of the Evangelical work that Frank Stranges was doing that mattered most to him, with the alien visitation being an essential part of his Christian message at a time of Cold War intensity; but you have never addressed either the historical context in which Valiant Thor arrived to save mankind, nor the underlying Christian foundations of the idea. In addition, you have not to my knowledge discussed the real possibilities of alien life in the universe, perhaps because a Martian version of a prawn doesn't have the allure of a superbly intelligent Venusian with a cure for cancer he doesn't want to share with non-Americans.
If you present a thread here which is based on such a lack of evidence, produced by a generation of charlatans, frauds, fantasists, anti-government whackos and hustlers looking to separate you from your money, don't be surprised if you attract negative comment. And I have never seen an episode of Kojak, and don't intent to now.
See? You are just wasting my time and you seem to take great pleasure in that.
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Originally Posted by
rodinuk
I do not give an (unidentified) flying f*ck either way :whistle:
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Originally Posted by Dahlia NAUGH-T-Babe with a childishly singular-quick-syllabled baby-talk, surprised-exclamation-voice with her eyes opened very wide says.
Hi again there, rodinuk,
Yea, okay, but, but the poll doesn't ask if anyone "cares".
It only asks if you believe or not.
Right?
So, whether you care or not...what do you believe roddy moddy with your hot toddy?
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Originally Posted by Dahlia NAUGH-T-Babe, again, with another childish, singular, quick-syllabled, "baby-talk" surprised exclamation voice.
The operative verb here is, believe, not, care.
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Originally Posted by Dahlia Babe's "Banger"
Cast your vote, darn it! Cast your vote!!
I suppose i should say it before someone else does:
"Rod believes he doesn't care."
(Babe slaps her knee and laughs - "Snort!, Har! Har Hardy-Har! Har! Snort!", and then says, "Oww-Wow! That hurt!", as she rubs her slapped-too-hard knee.)
Oooooch! Someone kiss my knee all better, please? It hurts! And while your at it, i think i feel a headache coming on and i'll be needing my bum rubbed, too, please, because that makes my headaches go away.
WHAT!?! What are you DOING!?!(Shaking you out of an apparent dream like trance.)
Just don't sit there, staring at me with your jaw dropped! Rub it!! Quickly! Hurry, do it in circular motions like my Uncle Frank used to do. I have a headache now - make it go awayyyyy! )Whine! Whine!)
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Hey all you unhappy poll voting campers,
LOOOOOK at thissss!
Look what Babe, has found for you.
Gosh, i'm so SWEET.
I just gave mySELF a cavity.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=16579
No one hears you screaming in outer space.
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OMIGOSH YOU'RE SO WONDERFUL!!!
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No one hears you screaming in outer space.
Unless someone left the channel open. But the channels to Dahlia are closed to all dissenting opinions.
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Credo Mutwa
Hi everyone,
I've been listening to Credo Mutwa for a several years now, off and on, and i think he is such a nice man.
These videos come from several years ago.
He's 94 now (in 2015).
I am not sure for how much longer he will be with us. I'd love to give him a nice, warm hug if he'd let me, and i'd love to sit there listening as he speaks and i'd fetch his tea or whatever he drinks for him.
He will be a voice in the past soon, although i hope he can live to be very, very old so he can see how the world turns out before he becomes just another memory gone from our lifetime.
He is worth a listen, so i hope many of you can sit back and listen to this slow paced but very informative interview/lecture/ call it what you will. This is the video series that i first discovered of him, several years ago.
An incredible human being.
He is introduced by David Icke in these videos.
Credo Mutwa
Part 1 (3 hours 33 minutes 58 seconds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4apWOUNOx64
Credo Mutwa
Part 2 (2 hours 52 minutes 18 seconds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va4V1SA2eyk
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Originally Posted by Babe
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I am sure that Credo Mutwa honestly holds his views, and if he wishes to collaborate with David Ilke on the existence of a reptilian super race - then it is harmless fun. What is dangerous about such people is the use of their ill-founded faith to cause harm. Credo's views on the treatment of AIDS is one example. The problem is not that such charlatans exist but they affect gullible people in power to follow their baseless ideals.
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Hi Martin,
Well, i really think David Icke has come a long way from the days, so long ago, when he first came onto the media-scene saying how he thought he was Jesus lol. He has certainly paid dearly for that TV appearance.
Since then, through his own self perseverance and determination, he's become quite a respected public figure to those who have not been brainwashed by the media.
I really don't want to see this thread becoming some great big debate all about AIDS, now, just because you brought that up, and how i posted this link (below), as such a topic as that can easily be discussed in much further detail in an already existing thread if one exists, or perhaps in a new thread that you could create if you want to, about the treatment of AIDS, so all the BigPharma shills can discredit Mr. Mutwa and his findings.
There is much more to life than BigPharma.
I, myself, am a self healer whenever possible, and i do not use any drugs to treat my illnesses, which i'm quite happy to say since i have become extremely informed about proper nutrition and self-healing, i don't have an illnesses to treat.
My doctor is always VERY surprised when she sees my general check-up blood-test-results. She keeps telling me, "I don't know how you can be so healthy".
Anyway, that is a topic which will probably never be discussed by me, seeing as the FDA and other BigPharma organizations strongly dislike people who handle their own well-being and talk about how we do so (as it's BAD for their business).
I, myself, only go to the doctor to get my blood checked, and then i ask for a print-out and i take care of what needs to be done, myself. Meaning, i do not let allow any doctor to keep my results hidden from me, as they usually just sit across the desk saying things like, "Well, everything seems to be fine", when in many people's cases, there are looming problems very visible to the doctor in the blood test results, which the doctor is just waiting to see finally erupt into a "treatable" disease that they can treat with drugs.
Any one can try to deny that all they want, but i have seen THAT happen with family members and others, too, who trusted their doctors because those people don't care - until it's too late.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vusamazulu_Credo_Mutwa
"Traditional treatments of HIV/AIDS
Credo has been an active and vocal advocate in the use of traditional African medicines for the treatment of HIV/AIDS, cancer and tuberculosis. He created a trust called the Vulinda Trust in 1999 to preserve traditional knowledge and to promote the use of these traditional medicines. The primary focus of his research has been on a South African plant called unwele in Zulu (Sutherlandia Frutescens). Unwele is traditionally used as a well being tonic, however has demonstrated anticancer activity through in vitro studies. Research of the efficacy of Sutherlandia Frutescens in the treatment of HIV/AIDS is ongoing and phase IIb trials are being conducted at the South African Herbal Science and Medicine Institute (SAHSMI)."
Anyway, i've only posted these videos because Mr. Mutwa discussed the reptilians who live underground in part 1, not to discuss AIDS as that is really off topic, isn't it?
I've only posted the whole series of part 1 and part 2 for anyone to enjoy his wisdom, knowledge and persona.
In part 2, however, he discusses many other topics such as human sacrifice rituals.
It's really very interesting to those, like me, who possess an inquisitive and open mind.
I hope i've addressed the only points you wanted to make in your post, and i respectfully hope it can end there. Thanks for the comment, though, although it's, kind of, off topic, when looking at the thread title and poll questions.
I wanted to be the first to comment on your post to, shall we say, "nip it in the bud" before it gets too out of hand, which is what the trolls in this tread thrive on.
Getting back ON TOPIC, though, why have you not, yet, voted in the poll, Martin? Still not sure which way to vote?
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Originally Posted by Dahlia Babe-Cheerleader (cheering at Martin.
"Vote! Vote! In the poll!
YOU can do it, Martin! YOU can do it, Martin!
Rawh! Rawh! Rawh! Rawh! Rahw! Rawh!"
Yayyyy, Martin! OYE! OYE! OYE! OYE!
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I am aware that I am probably on ignore by Dahlia but that is a good thing because then she cannot say my comments are affecting the direction she takes this thread. But it appears that in addition to all of the wonderful views she has about history, and about government conspiracies, she also thinks people should not receive the treatments for HIV with the highest success rates (she insinuates as much without being forthright which is her modus operandi). People can live for decades on anti-retroviral drugs, whereas people who do not take them often die painfully, in denial up until their death about the causes of their worsening condition.
Once they are dead their HIV denier confederates claim they were murdered (perhaps via pneumonia), died of natural causes, or that they overdosed on over the counter vitamins. But she wants to make sure we don't go too far afield talking about the other low credibility views espoused by the legion of crackpots she promotes. Just the low credibility views that are currently up for discussion. So does anyone have anything to say about lizard people? Let's not talk about natural selection, astronomy, space travel or modern medicine...instead let's discuss the unconfirmed sightings, backroom meetings, and reptiles.
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Originally Posted by Dahlia Babe Peaceful
Hi everyone,
Here's a nice song which mentions silver spaceships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e3m_T-NMOs
"After The Goldrush"
Well, I dreamed I saw the knights
In armor coming,
Saying something about a queen.
There were peasants singing and
Drummers drumming
And the archer split the tree.
There was a fanfare blowing
To the sun
That was floating on the breeze.
Look at Mother Nature on the run
In the nineteen seventies.
Look at Mother Nature on the run
In the nineteen seventies.
I was lying in a burned out basement
With the full moon in my eyes.
I was hoping for replacement
When the sun burst thru the sky.
There was a band playing in my head
And I felt like getting high.
I was thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping it was a lie.
Thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping it was a lie.
Well, I dreamed I saw the silver
Space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun,
There were children crying
And colors flying
All around the chosen ones.
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun.
They were flying Mother Nature's
silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home.
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Hi everyone,
Look at this!
A frikken children's animated video with a song about aliens visiting Earth.
I am NOT alone.
This alien topic is becoming more and more mainstream.
I think many of you folks (you know who you are) spend too much time looking at t-girl pics and bickering about silly topics. You're out of the loop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P51A7wezH50
Two aliens are flying in a saucer
Two aliens are heading to the Earth
They are too far but they are getting closer
Their tentacles are moving back and forth
One is thin and tall
The other's fat and small
But they are not ugly at all
Those aliens don't look like ugly monsters
Those aliens are cute as they can be
In fact they look like funny little hamsters
And they are coming here to meet me
One is thin and tall
The other's fat and small
But they're not ugly at all
They visit us to play with little children
Time spent with them is like the sweetest dream
They drink sweet juice and eat delicious chicken
They love cupcakes and strawberry ice cream
One is thin and tall
The other's fat and small
But they are not ugly at all
Parents are teaching their children about it, now.
LOL, i suppose the whole world is crazy except you few.
Babe,
xoxo
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Hi everyone,
WOW! Look at this!
Even frikken Sesame Street is teaching children about aliens existing and visiting Earth.
Boy, oh boy, it's seems many of you "are NOT smarter than a 5 year old" when it comes to aliens? lol Think about it! lol!
Kids are being taught this stuff on TELEVISION - the brain-washer.
I love the Sesame Street martians with the way the speak. So cute.
I wonder what preschool children and thinking about all of this.
What exactly is being taught in kindergarten, and later, in 1st grade of school?
Geez, maybe many of you should be writing letters to the Sesame Street writers and complaining about all of this.
"OMG! Harry! They're BRAIN-WASHING My Three Sons! DO SOMETHING, Harry!"
"It's okay, Martha, it's on television."
"Oh,Harry, as usual, you're right, again, dear. Father Knows Best."
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Originally Posted by Dahlia Babe child-at-heart
Watch them in sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO33o0se_Aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5X7ztdd_6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te70C_4getQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStPNqex3uA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_trSIBCgF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTc3PsW5ghQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZJi_NStV9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY5y9a05ceQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaL1A2c97hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgEJZ1dFCog
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Originally Posted by
broncofan
I am aware that I am probably on ignore by Dahlia ...
I'm reminded of HAL refusing to open the pod bay doors. Not being as fully functioning as HAL was, she's already singing, "Daisey, Daisey..."
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Originally Posted by
Dahlia Babe Ailhad
This alien topic is becoming more and more mainstream.
Yeah I noticed. When you get rid of all the people who disagree, it's exactly the median view.
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Hi everyone,
Meet Mork,
Mork's an alien, by the way.
Na hoo! Na noo!
Babe,
xoxo
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Originally Posted by
Dahlia Babe Ailhad
Hi everyone,
WOW! Look at this!
Even frikken Sesame Street is teaching children about aliens existing and visiting Earth.
Boy, oh boy, it's seems many of you "are NOT smarter than a 5 year old" when it comes to aliens? lol Think about it! lol!
Kids are being taught this stuff on TELEVISION - the brain-washer.
I love the Sesame Street martians with the way the speak. So cute.
I wonder what preschool children and thinking about all of this.
What exactly is being taught in kindergarten, and later, in 1st grade of school?
Geez, maybe many of you should be writing letters to the Sesame Street writers and complaining about all of this.
"OMG! Harry! They're BRAIN-WASHING My Three Sons! DO SOMETHING, Harry!"
"It's okay, Martha, it's on television."
"Oh,Harry, as usual, you're right, again, dear. Father Knows Best."
Watch them in sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO33o0se_Aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5X7ztdd_6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te70C_4getQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStPNqex3uA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_trSIBCgF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTc3PsW5ghQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZJi_NStV9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY5y9a05ceQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaL1A2c97hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgEJZ1dFCog
:dead-1:
I wouldn't concern yourself with the possibility of the children being brainwashed. My 5 year old niece is perfectly capable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality.
ps. To everyone else on Babe's ignore list, welcome to the Club. At the moment it's very exclusive but I'm sure it will grow rapidly with time.
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Originally Posted by
broncofan
Yeah I noticed. When you get rid of all the people who disagree, it's exactly the median view.
Of one person...
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Originally Posted by
Laphroaig
:dead-1:
I wouldn't concern yourself with the possibility of the children being brainwashed. My 5 year old niece is perfectly capable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality.
ps. To everyone else on Babe's ignore list, welcome to the Club. At the moment it's very exclusive but I'm sure it will grow rapidly with time.
She claims that she can accept disagreement but so far it's only a theory. We have not actually encountered the environmental factors or anomalies that need to take place before someone can disagree with her without stoking a mad bout of paranoia. Perhaps it can only happen in the low gravity environment of the moon. Maybe in the methane rich environment of one of Jupiter's moons.
But pretty soon, this forum is going to look like outer space to Dahlia.
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Hi every one,
I love this episode.
Marvin the Martian and Bugs Bunny.
Babe,
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs38/f/20...y_by_DCRmx.jpg
xoxo
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Happy to vote if you include a button for "None of the above'"
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Originally Posted by
Dahlia Babe Ailhad
Hi Martin,
Getting back ON TOPIC, though, why have you not, yet, voted in the poll, Martin? Still not sure which way to vote?
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Aww martin,
Now you're just not being any ANY fun at all (pout),
Don't worry sweety, you won't get grilled by me if you vote either way.
Everyone has a belief.
I know you are probably afraid to vote.
I don't blame you with how this thread has greatly degenerated, so far.
For all it's worth, and it's not to try to influence you, BUT, last summer, i was standing on my back balcony, and i saw in the distance two ufos.
One was flying behind the other, and the one in the rear was accelerating up to the one in front, and then when it reached it, it would stop and wait until the first once was ahead again, and then it would repeat the action. It was strange.
I ran in to get my camera but it was night time, and they were pretty far away, so i was thinking nothing would show up on the cam.
And they were pretty far away and appeared as lights smaller than pea sized objects because of the distance. When i finally got back to my balcony, they were gone.
I, often, wonder if i had ever been abducted at some time during my childhood.
Anyway, i hope you will cast a vote just the same. It couldn't hurt - could it? I mean it's just a mouse click.
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