Men on dating ts women

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

I would like to know when most of the women here transition...

Transitioning at 12 growing up, still being 21 I have encountered nothing but chasers wanting to take advantage of a young, very well transiitoned trans... This goes for all the modern ts who have transitioned as well... as oppose to the older generation. I feel bad for the next generation if these chasers don't change.

It is different for girls who transition older, they don't encounter most of these crap us younger ts do. No to mention this chaser thing has been recent, I was born right dead int he center when it started to just be a cycle of never ending useless, meaningless, Fetish. And it sucks.

Now I have been told there were chasers a lot to back int eh day when ts become more prominent, however any girls can say that it;s getting worst.

It's no wonder that ts supermodel had said " we live life alone, I rather die alone" She was talking about these chasers. Now i don't think that's right, because i think even tough chasers are a majority, there are many men that don't deserve the blame. I think any ts should be able to spot a chaser with the things they say here not he boards, how they act in person, and the motives for their actions. We are not stupid. And that is what makes chasers get so mad because most of us won't give them the time of day,a nd we all have a story to to learn from.

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Girl, this is the Edelweiss crowd and the Ina's Silver Swan on this forum. lol I was turning them in the mid 90's before I was even on 'mones, and it was the same shit with them. I dressed however I wanted to school, either very fem or completely like a GG. And there were cockhounds then too. They had the Edelweiss bar right down the street from my apartment on 11th Ave. And I had my own little parties with a few guys I went to SVA with, and those guys went from my place and then to Edelweiss or vice versa the same nights. I'd go outside and watch them with my roommate's binoculars as they made a left into Edelweiss and be thinking "Look at these gluttonous motherfuckers. How many transvestite dicks will they suck in one night?" lol So they were dogs then and they're dogs now. But they did bring me a few presents every time. They bought me art supplies, pot, coke, wine, etc. I ran into one about 4 years ago at Callen-Lorde. I bet he's HIV pos now. He didn't recognize me, but I'm pretty sure it was him. And you know what? I bet he's STILL sucking TS dicks; probably now more than ever. lol

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well like you said, you can have your preference...

I would not want to be with a guy who bottoms, or is a chaser That's not my cup of tea, I'm not saying being a chaser is bad, i feel honestly it's invasive in my personal life. But do as they please, Not gonna happen with me.

Just as porn is a choice.

You are comfortable with porn and being out in public, I don't.

If you like chasers, then date them. No one is stopping you.

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Again the chaser thing is spread around to liberally...

I think a man that just sleeps with any transsexual to put the notch on his bed post would be considered a chaser...for example: Christian..even though he does it as a business..he also does it off shoots..and he likes to get with any girl out there...no matter what they look like..for that notch.

A man who has never been with a transsexual...who wants to experiment...and attracted to beautiful transsexuals..but doesn't know what end is up..and scared...is not a chaser...

That's someone trying to figure out what they want..who knows he may try it and decide this isn't for them...

I just think girls label any man a chaser..

If he has dated previous transsexuals..oh he is a chaser..even if he dated them for a long period of time..and treated them like any normal girl...

Or if he slept with other girls before..he is considered a chaser...

I just think it's just preposterous...

By the way I'm married..and I have never had issues you girls have had in dating..

My shortest relationship was a year...and my longest 6 years and I have had plenty of long term relationships..with no issue..and most of the guys were what many would consider "tranny chasers"

I grew up as a female too...I guess my experience is a lot different than yours...

Guys try and fuck any women they can, thats 99% of guys, if ts's are on his menu that doesnt mean he is a ts chaser, just a man whore dog lol.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Again the chaser thing is spread around to liberally...

I think a man that just sleeps with any transsexual to put the notch on his bed post would be considered a chaser...

A man who has never been with a transsexual...who wants to experiment...and attracted to beautiful transsexuals..but doesn't know what end is up..and scared...is not a chaser...

That's someone trying to figure out what they want..who knows he may try it and decide this isn't for them...

I just think girls label any man a chaser..

If he has dated previous transsexuals..oh he is a chaser..even if he dated them for a long period of time..and treated them like any normal girl...

Or if he slept with other girls before..he is considered a chaser...

I just think it's just preposterous...

I was a girl at 12 already... I had all my papers state I was female and the school boards, and even the church knew this. So yes. I tried t live my life as a female, but for some reason keep getting pushed with this she male bullshit. i had 60 year old guys wanting to suck my cock at 15-16 of course i have a different view on things...
By the way I'm married..and I have never had issues you girls have had in dating..

My shortest relationship was a year...and my longest 6 years and I have had plenty of long term relationships..with no issue..and most of the guys were what many would consider "tranny chasers"

I grew up as a female to...I guess my experience is a lot different than yours...

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How old are you now? When did you transition? How long have you been in the sex industry?

Of course these questions come to mind with no offense to you but how you are also affected by these men. Sometimes you can get numb to it and some women just tolerate, unfortunately, like my mom we don't tolerate...

My way or the highway.

Like i said you like tranny chasers, so that's your thing... Not all of use want to be objectified for our little parts, some of us are very insecure about it, just as some if us don't like to be labeled she males because it's derogatory, or lady boys, or he/she.... But some ts are okay with that, but I tend to respect women who fight those disgraceful terms... or being objectified int hat sense.

Chasers will also see gay men but never say anything to us about it. Many chasers really do use TS as a gateway to dick. Some are into also children. You find these fucked up things out over time. After a year of being a bottom for every ts provider online, suddenly they go to a gay bathhouse to take it up the ass for free. Wtf?

That's why I want no part of 99% of them. Certain people are sex addicted and pathological liars.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

How old are you now? When did you transition? How long have you been in the sex industry?

Of course these questions come to mind with no offense to you but how you are also affected by these men. Sometimes you can get numb to it and some women just tolerate, unfortunately, like my mom we don't tolerate...

My way or the highway.

Like i said you like tranny chasers, so that's your thing... Not all of use want to be objectified for our little parts, some of us are very insecure about it, just as some if us don't like to be labeled she males because it's derogatory, or lady boys, or he/she.... But some ts are okay with that, but I tend to respect women who fight those disgraceful terms... or being objectified int hat sense.

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I transitioned at 12 - went to high school/college/cosmetology school as a female. My life is documented...

I didn't get into porn till I was 26, before that I worked regular jobs. I was a transgender activist from the age 16. I had jobs from a waitress - to a cosmetologist - makeup artist - platform artist - worked for DCFS - etc etc etc...

I am 30 now (well as of April 19th)...through out my whole life I had healthy real relationships...long term...lived together....

Relationships are hard..they aren't fairytales..you have to work at them...no one is perfect....

I don't know what you mean by "putting up with" lmao

Girl you just sound jaded...

If you don't like what you have between your legs why don't you get SRS?

I was going to a few years ago...but the chance for it to turn out ugly and for it to not work is to great...

I am happy with me..and being able to orgasm is too important to me..in my sexual relationship..

Well kelly, maybe we are different.

at 12 I already was a female, going to school, church, etc as a girl... And been harassed by these chasers...

Nicole, you know what's weird? When i was 15-16 I had so many guys soliciting to suck my cock already, sow weird...

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well kelly, maybe we are different.

at 12 I already was a female, going to school, church, etc as a girl... And been harassed by these chasers...

Nicole, you know what's weird? When i was 15-16 I had so many guys soliciting to suck my cock already, sow weird...

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I didn't have that experience I grew up in a town of 2500 people

I lived a pretty normal life...

I never really let the transsexual thing define me in my personal life..I just was me..

And if a guy hit on me I wasn't into - I was blunt..plain and simple..

Which I don't mind letting a guy know to take a hike..

And through all my relationships if a guy didn't wait around and show me out to dinners movies etc to get to know me...

Then he was on my no list..pretty simple

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

I transitioned at 12 - went to high school/college/cosmetology school as a female. My life is documented...

I didn't get into porn till I was 26, before that I worked regular jobs. I was a transgender activist from the age 16. I had jobs from a waitress - to a cosmetologist - makeup artist - platform artist - worked for DCFS - etc etc etc...

I am 30 now (well as of April 19th)...through out my whole life I had healthy real relationships...long term...lived together....

Relationships are hard..they aren't fairytales..you have to work at them...no one is perfect....

I don't know what you mean by "putting up with" lmao

Girl you just sound jaded...

If you don't like what you have between your legs why don't you get SRS?

I was going to a few years ago...but the chance for it to turn out ugly and for it to not work is to great...

I am happy with me..and being able to orgasm is too important to me..in my sexual relationship..

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Well there you have it you have been sheltered from these men for most of your childhood. I got in the industry and in the scene in my childhood I have lived in major cities like Manila, in my child hood and raised in San Francsico where the ts scene is very active, And experienced the reality of the men actively on the scene, that's why i choose to be with a guy who isn't actively on the scene.

That is the Most ignorant thing to ask a ts why they won't get their sex change, You don't know when i had it scheduled do you? Or that I'm qualified already, i just want to make sure the time i do get my srs I can sustain myself for years... not all of us are financially irresponsible, we try to avoid debt, financial situations just like anyone else... I am 21 even if I decide 5 years to get my srs I will still be one of the youngest ts to get it, and still have a full life. Because Some of us have a way out, and do not want to be in the industry in our 40's...

Just like you I am qualified in other venues, that will take effect in the next year in music production. I am 21 and i got my life ahead dog me and trust me you will not see me in the industry past my 30's...

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well there you have it you have been sheltered from these men for most of your childhood. I got in the industry and in the scene in my childhood I have lived in major cities like Manila, in my child hood and raised in San Francsico where the ts scene is very active, And experienced the reality of the men actively on the scene, that's why i choose to be with a guy who isn't actively on the scene.

That is the Most ignorant thing to ask a ts why they won't get their sex change, You don't know when i had it scheduled do you? Or that I'm qualified already, i just want to make sure the time i do get my srs I can sustain myself for years... not all of us are financially irresponsible, we try to avoid debt, financial situations just like anyone else... I am 21 even if I decide 5 years to get my srs I will still be one of the youngest ts to get it, and still have a full life. Because Some of us have a way out, and do not want to be in the industry in our 40's...

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Evon I can see why you may have difficulty in dating....you have issue with conversation..and always going towards the negative...that is all :)

Have a nice day..

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Evon I can see why you may have difficulty in dating....you have issue with conversation..and always going towards the negative...that is all :)

Have a nice day..

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Well I can see why you date so many chasers that never really worked. But hey let them use use you as a dormant, that's your choice.

I have a boyfriend... Fyi so thank you!

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well I can see why you date so many chasers that never really worked. But hey let them use yoga s a dormant, that's your choice.

I have a boyfriend... Fyi so thank you!

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There's that cattiness...
Classy...

You focus so much on negativity - I have watched you on the board...

It's a big reason I don't have transsexual girlfriends besides Foxxy and Jesse...

Or girls who can differentiate the negative and still communicate like Ashley..

Isn't it tiring girls being so negative and hateful all the time?

Just curious...

Evon all these guys offering to suck your dick, dont you enjoy getting head? guys usually offer girls oral sex in hopes of getting them horny and leading to intercourse, maybe they are just offering that, because its what they have to work with on you? The power of high testosterone is overpowering, when I was dating my first gf, id almost pass out when id see the camel toe in her daisy dukes, or see her lick her lips or something, im serious, I got a head rush, almost fucking passed out.

Btw the guy who dates a Pre op ts, and claims to hate the dick, and not wanna see it/touch it, is a fucking liar fraud, if he was so against it, he would date on of the 3 billion girls in the world with a pussy. The attraction to TS's is that they are like women on steroids(mones are steroids), the hormones are what make the opposite sex attracted.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

There's that cattiness...
Classy...

You focus so much on negativity - I have watched you on the board...

It's a big reason I don't have transsexual girlfriends besides Foxxy and Jesse...

Or girls who can differentiate the negative and still communicate like Ashley..

Isn't it tiring girls being so negative and hateful all the time?

Just curious...

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You call me jaded? Yet your state ts women being catty and the reason you have no TS friends? Are your serious?

Honey to me you sound like your a ts basher yourself....

I have no reason to be catty to you, I am just straight forward. Since you were the one who called me a jaded person int he first place, hmm I didn't think that was a compliment. Sorry fi my strong personality overshadows that dormant of yours but get a back bone.

Regular guys who are with you, despite you being a TS, ask you why you haven't had SRS yet.

Chasers and are more inclined to blurt out "why would you ever get your dick cut off?" They're so classy.... NOT.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

You call me jaded? Yet your state ts women being catty and the reason you have no TS friends? Are your serious?

Honey to me you sound like your a ts basher yourself....

I have no reason to be catty to you, I am just straight forward. Since you were the one who called me a jaded person int he first place, hmm I didn't think that was a compliment. Sorry fi my strong personality overshadows that dormant of yours but get a back bone.

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I refuse to argue with you...I made my point..enough said...

I don't have ts friends cause they are crazy and many need counseling..and focus way too much on the negative..

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Originally Posted by pimpdog

Evon all these guys offering to suck your dick, dont you enjoy getting head? guys usually offer girls oral sex in hopes of getting them horny and leading to intercourse, maybe they are just offering that, because its what they have to work with on you? The power of high testosterone is overpowering, when I was dating my first gf, id almost pass out when id see the camel toe in her daisy dukes, or see her lick her lips or something, im serious, I got a head rush, almost fucking passed out.

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Oh yes! but if sucking my dick was the only intention without any substance to that relationship, then no.

If a guy truly loves me for who i am it so happens i got a dick for now, why not? But if he leaves me after my srs for a ts who got a cock, or goes around getting dicked all the time, then it's safe to say that's a chaser.

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Originally Posted by pimpdog

Btw the guy who dates a Pre op ts, and claims to hate the dick, and not wanna see it/touch it, is a fucking liar fraud, if he was so against it, he would date on of the 3 billion girls in the world with a pussy. The attraction to TS's is that they are like women on steroids(mones are steroids), the hormones are what make the opposite sex attracted.

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no actually they aren't like men.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

I refuse to argue with you...I made my point..enough said...

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You can't argue... period. You got no substance in your argument to why ts women like us avoid chaser...

BTW being female doesnt mean they have to be submissive, some of the most petite, church girls I know, will be sitting on your face, or violently shoving your head down till they bust a nut in your face.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

You can't argue... period. You got no substance in your argument to why ts women like us avoid chaser...

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lmao you are one of those last word kind of girls...I realize that..that's why so many threads go on and on and on...with your arguing anything...

YAWN..I think my points were very relevant..some just choose to live in delusion

That the problem isn't just the men...it's THEM!

For the record, I love being the guy in the middle of girl fights, who each trys to steal away from the other by showering with wild sex, and attention lol.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

lmao you are one of those last word kind of girls...I realize that..that's why so many threads go on and on and on...with your arguing anything...

YAWN..I think my points were very relevant..some just choose to live in delusion

That the problem isn't just the men...it's THEM!

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You want the men on your side, that's the purpose of the thread... you want your attention so all these men can subscribe to your porn by throwing us ts women under the bus to gain your fans... You are transparent.

the reason you have no friends is cause you have no sense of sisterhood... It's all for you. So I'm not surprised you have no friends.

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Originally Posted by pimpdog

For the record, I love being the guy in the middle of girl fights, who each trys to steal away from the other by showering with wild sex, and attention lol.

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Pimp you are trying to fuel the girls to go after you haha

With you comments

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

You want the men on your side, that's the purpose of the thread... you want your attention so all these men can subscribe to your porn by throwing us ts women under the bus to gain your fans... You are transparent.

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Nope not at all..I've said this for years...

Before I was even in the adult world....

I feel transsexuals a whole load of them need counseling to accept themselves more..

I'm less critical of the men and more critical of my community...

And any girl that has been around transsexuals in group settings would have to agree..

Otherwise their just as evil and vile..

I don't even have a website?? What would be the point...

You are so silly...

And by the way half these men on this website don't even subscribe to sites lol

They go the free route

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Chasers will also see gay men but never say anything to us about it. Many chasers really do use TS as a gateway to dick. Some are into also children. You find these fucked up things out over time. After a year of being a bottom for every ts provider online, suddenly they go to a gay bathhouse to take it up the ass for free. Wtf?

That's why I want no part of 99% of them. Certain people are sex addicted and pathological liars.

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Do you mean all men who have slept with men and women or a particcular one or the dl closet cases. it seem to really be a hateful comment if it's generalized

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Originally Posted by allurstouse

Do you mean all men who have slept with men and women or a particcular one or the dl closet cases. it seem to really be a hateful comment if it's generalized

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It's just more homophobia towards bisexual men..

That's another big issue with trans women..if a guy is bi..it makes them feel manly..cause they think well if he is attracted to men..I must look like a man..they can't help it..it's just what their mind tells them...

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Pimp you are trying to fuel the girls to go after you haha

With you comments

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Hey, girls tell always tell me they feel safer then they ever have around me, and I can fix anything that breaks, and make ANYBODY feel better when there sick, or having a bad day, otherwise im a broke loser. Im also a safe sex nazi.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

It's no wonder that ts supermodel had said " we live life alone, I rather die alone" She was talking about these chasers. Now i don't think that's right, because i think even tough chasers are a majority, there are many men that don't deserve the blame. I think any ts should be able to spot a chaser with the things they say here not he boards, how they act in person, and the motives for their actions. We are not stupid. And that is what makes chasers get so mad because most of us won't give them the time of day,a nd we all have a story to to learn from.

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i think this is the most insightful and meaningful thing you said so far, but then you go ahead and say this

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

You can't argue... period. You got no substance in your argument to why ts women like us avoid chaser...

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the real crux has been hidden in your subtext all along, and your point could have been made very early on in this thread, but you've had a vendetta of getting even with everything which at times, seems almost tragic.

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Nope not at all..I've said this for years...

Before I was even in the adult world....

I feel transsexuals a whole load of them need counseling to accept themselves more..

I'm less critical of the men and more critical of my community...

And any girl that has been around transsexuals in group settings would have to agree..

Otherwise their just as evil and vile..

I don't even have a website?? What would be the point...

You are so silly...

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And for years your still trying to gain more fans...

That's why you have no friends cause you have no sense of sisterhood, or loyalty. Your basically throwing all the ts under the bus just to gain popularity with the male population

I am not surprised you have no ts friend...

You don't have a site, but you will one one you get money, you have also done numerous porn, and webcams, blog sites. it's not easy to read you. So again if throwing ts women under the bus for personal gain makes you happy... Good, but i see trough it.

I can't find my post on this topic, it's lost somewhere, lol

But I think this forum might have a few lonely people about. So many posts and so many words on a subject that most people in the world could give a rats ass. And as I read old posts from years ago, it was the same topics, with just as many posts and words.

I know I am lonely and need to get out more, but even with my solitude from life I can not compete with all the posts that have been made on this forum, to me,,,, it seems like loneliness abounds.

Anyways,, fun is fun.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

And for years your still trying to gain more fans...

That's why you have no friends cause you have no sense of sisterhood, or loyalty. Your basically throwing all the ts under the bus just to gain popularity with the male population

I am not surprised you have no ts friend...

You don't have a site, but you will one one you get money, you have also done numerous porn, and webcams.... it's not easy to read you.

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I have loads of friends - FEMALE friends lol

And then I have Jesse and Foxxy who are fun, sweet, and just no drama...

I choose to surround myself with people aren't negative and hateful towards everything...

I mean most of the ts I have hung with complain about men 24/7...it's like shut up!

I don't need more fans..the fans I have are true to me and have stuck by me...I don't really care about that..

I was bringing up a valid point...

Just like I was gonna make a thread why trans women hate each other so much..from beginning to veteran girls..so much hate..

I try to bring up valid points on this forum...instead of the whose hotter than who and whose this and whose that crap...

I like social debates and I like opinions on topics..whether they be touchy or not...

I use all this for my blog..

I completely agree with Kelly, just saying! Kelly has always been nice and Ive noticed Evon is always negative! Just saying...

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

I have loads of friends - FEMALE friends lol

And then I have Jesse and Foxxy who are fun, sweet, and just no drama...

I choose to surround myself with people aren't negative and hateful towards everything...

I mean most of the ts I have hung with complain about men 24/7...it's like shut up!

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Kelly you cause drama by posting in this thread...

It's not like you respectably disagreed, You threw us under the bus plain and simple and that's unsettling. And it's all for your own benefit... you gg friends are not your community, throw them under the bus as well like you did us just now... See what happens...

Why should a ts have to run around with a pack of other ts's? if the johns heard the girls talk about them, they would never give one a fucking dime! She would just have girls friends like a normal women.

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Originally Posted by yngnwburbsguy

I completely agree with Kelly, just saying! Kelly has always been nice and Ive noticed Evon is always negative! Just saying...

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Like I said the thread was to gain male viewers.....

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Kelly you cause drama by posting in this thread...

It's not like you respectably disagreed, You threw us under the bus plain and simple and that's unsettling. And it's all for your own benefit... you gg friends are not your community, throw them under the bus as well like you did us just now... See what happens...

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Sometimes our community needs TRUTH..it's not throwing them under the bus...it's the truth...

From the years I have worked with transsexual women in activism..to hanging with the adult sex workers..in general..transsexual women are just so unhappy and need counseling to find themselves more..I don't care if you transitioned at 12 or transitioned at 60...

I think a lot of girls would be a lot less negative and we as a group of people would be better if many of us seeked inner growth..

Evon is very sweet if you know her, its hard not to stare at her lips though:(.

I thought highly of Kelly before this thread