Re: The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
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Do you know what a citation is, Stavros? (Which, unlike me, you're apparently afraid to give out your legal name in these discussions, so I'm left with calling you "Stavros", which is the handle you've chosen on this forum.)
Do you know how a citation works, Stavros? Apparently not.
You act as if I'm making some mysterious claim that is just so utterly hard to check. Me-oh, my-oh, just how ever would one go about verifying such a "claim"?
Why, with the citations that I gave to the actual journal articles: that's how!
But apparently the concept of a citation is new to you.
Yet even though you so far haven't grasped the standard citation process of the Scholarly Method (which includes as a subset the Scientific Method), you're going to be the one to critique my article. God help anyone who takes you seriously--including you.
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When writing history, or writing scholarly work of any discipline, citing original documents, secondary sources, interviews, newspaper reports and so on, are valid forms of proof. Of course there are many disputes among scholars about what actually happened at certain times, in history there are contending theories of, for example, the causes and consequences of the First World War.
What Jamie has done is to pervert the process of academic enquiry and distorted and manipulated secondary sources to back up an argument that has no merit. Below I offer three examples, on Cecil Rhodes, David Ben-Gurion, and Class Conflict. It is tediously long but I hope will end the equally tedious attempt Jamie keeps making to convince us that loving Jesus is the only reason for our existence.
1. Cecil Rhodes
On p87 Jamie note 214 says:
214 The goal of Cecil Rhodes, as set forth in his first will and testament of September 19, 1877, was the establishment of a secret society to work for the creation of a world ruled by the British Crown [289, Vol. 1, pp. 67–69]. (Interestingly, Rhodes made this will almost four months after he became a Freemason in the Oxford University chapter of the Ancient and Accepted Rite [called the Scottish Rite outside of the UK] on June 2, 1877 [ibid., p. 86].) Also to this end, in Rhodes’s last will and testament he founded the Rhodes Scholarship at Oxford University [395, pp. 23–45]. With funding from Lord Nathaniel Mayer Rothschild (b. 1840–d. 1915; grandson of Freemason Nathan Mayer Rothschild [102], b. 1777–d. 1836), Rhodes was able take over all the diamond mines in South Africa under Rhodes’s company De Beers Consolidated Mines [343, p. 130].
-Note 214 cites a 2-volume biography of Cecil Rhodes by Sir Lewis Michell where he gives an account of the consequences of a heart-attack suffered by Rhodes at the age of 24. What Jamie deliberately fails to mention is that this was Rhodes’s first Will and Testament, that it was followed by five more, and that the creation of the Rhodes Scholarships was not in the first will. I wonder how many ambitious young men of 24 wanted to rule the world? More to the point, the British Empire itself failed to survive, rendering all of Rhodes’s youthful dreams superfluous, except for his desire that humanity live in peace with itself, to which many people would dismiss him as a hopeless idealist.
As for what Rhodes actually wrote in this first Will and Testament, Michell provides all of it, in context:
In or about this month Rhodes suffered from his first attack of heart failure, which for a time so shook his nerves that his friends once found him in his room, blue with fright, his door barricaded with a chest of drawers and other furniture; he insisted that he had seen a ghost.
It was immediately after this incident, and no doubt as a result of it, that Rhodes made his first will. On 19th September 1877 his confidence in the ultimate success of his projects, though to ordinary observers they were still precarious, led him to make a remarkable testamentary bequest. Elusive fortune seemed to others still far from his grasp, but his robust faith in his power eventually to dispose of millions, led this youth of twenty-four, amid his many anxieties, to leave his entire estate (before he had acquired it) to Lord Carnarvon, then Secretary of State for the Colonies, and to his successors in office, and to his friend Sidney Godolphin Shippard of the Inner Temple, in Trust. In the customary legal phraseology the document was preluded by the statement that it was his last Will and Testament, whereas it was his first and very far indeed from being his last. He describes himself as being of
‘Oriel College, Oxford, but presently of Kimberley in the Province of Griqualand West, Esquire Omitting the usual formalities, which may be taken as read, it will suffice to record that the trust was as follows :
'To and for the establishment, promotion and development of a Secret Society, the true aim and object whereof shall be the extension of British rule throughout the world, the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom, and of colonisation by British subjects of all lands where the means of livelihood are attainable by energy, labour and enterprise, and especially the occupation by British settlers of the entire Continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of the Euphrates, the Islands of Cyprus and Candia, the whole of South America, the Islands of the Pacific not heretofore possessed by Great Britain, the whole of the Malay Archipelago, the seaboard of China and Japan, the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire, the inauguration of a system of Colonial representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed members of the Empire, and, finally, the foundation of so great a Power as to hereafter render wars impossible and promote the best interests of Humanity.
This is the only clause in the Will, possibly because in no document drawn by human hands was there room for any more clauses without an anti-climax.
Sir Lewis Michell, The Life of the Right Honourable Cecil John Rhodes, 1853-1902. Vol 1. (London Edward Arnold, 1910), p68-69.
You can read the entire volume online here:
http://ia700301.us.archive.org/22/it...01michiala.pdf
2. David Ben-Guron and the Supreme Court Building in Israel
I have already pointed out how Jamie deliberately manipulated a short article by David Ben-Gurion to imply that the design and construction of the Supreme Court Building in Jerusalem was the fulfilment of some conspiracy of world government. Here it is again with a broader context, from pages 90-92:
Families such as the Rothschilds are a servant caste to the royalty, with titles of nobility that reflect their rank. For example, the Rothschilds have ranks of barons, but certainly not of princes, kings or queens. And a banker is a servant of another, whereas the only function of a monarch is to rule. This arrangement of a caste of Jewish functionaries being in service to non-Jewish royalty goes back to the Babylonian Exile, and continued with the Jewish diaspora in Alexandria during the Hellenistic period, and with the Roman province of Judaea. Although the current head Rothschilds are Jewish by ancestry only, not by religion or culture: as given the pagan, neo-Egyptian occult symbolism of the Israeli Supreme Court building built by the Rothschilds, the Rothschilds obviously hold Jewish religion and culture in contemptuous mockery. These Rothschilds’ religion is the same as the rest of the globalist oligarchy, which is a form of pagan occult mystery religion, i.e., Freemasonry as practiced by those called the “Adepts, the Princes of Masonry” by Scottish Rite Sovereign Grand Commander Albert Pike, and those the Freemasonic author Manly Palmer Hall termed the “inner brotherhood of the elect”, who both Pike and Hall contrast with the mass of Freemasons, who Pike states are “intentionally misled”. David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel, stated in a 1962 article for Look magazine that this court in Jerusalem would become “the Supreme Court of Mankind”
[44].
But the reference to Look magazine that follows is to an article from 1962 that David Ben-Gurion wrote in response to a request to predict what the world would be like in 25 years time, the brief article is here;
"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: the Cold War will be a thing of the past. Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union. On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and rising political importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a Socialist and democratic regime. With the exception of the USSR as a federated Eurasian state, all other continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished, and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah. Higher education will be the right of every person in the world. A pill to prevent pregnanacy will slow down the explosive natural increase in China and India. And by 1987, the average life-span of man will reach 100 years."
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/...hp?f=21&t=1641
3. The Class Struggle
In a discussion of the state and its war against Christianity, Jamie writes:
Thus the love affair by academia and the corporate media with collectivist ideologies, beginning in a major way in the 19th century. If the state hadn’t loved Marx, almost no one would even know his name today. As contrast his ideology’s popularity with governments and their sycophants with that of the liberal thinkers of the 19th century, including the French liberals of the 19th century whom Marx admits in his writings is where he obtained his class-conflict theory from: the original being the state against voluntary society—of which he butchered, making it into a struggle of voluntary actors in society against each other, with the state as the Savior.
Note 233 ends with this statement and citations:
The class-conflict theory (i.e., the authentic, original version of it unbutchered by Marx) was preached by Jesus Christ (see Mark 10:42–45; Matthew 20:25–28; Luke 22:25,26—cf. Luke 4:5–8; Matthew 4:8–10; John 12:31; 14:30; 16:8–11; Revelation 13:2; 19:19–21) and Paul (see 1 Corinthians 2:6–8; 15:23,24—cf. 2 Corinthians 4:3,4; Ephesians 6:12), and can also be found in the Old Testament in the form of prophetically-imparted statements by God (see Psalm 110; Isaiah 24:21,22; Ezekiel 34:1–10; Hosea 8:4; Zechariah 10:3).
Jamie has not understood class struggle –by definition it is NOT a ‘struggle of voluntary actors’ but a conflict between classes! Which is why he uses terms such as Bourgeois and Proletarian. Here are the texts of the citations which Jamie claims are the ‘authentic, original version’ of class conflict. All are from the King James version of the bible which can be found on the web.
Mark 10:42–45
42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Matthew 20:25–28
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.26 His lord answered and said unto him, thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
Luke 22:25,26—
25 And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.26 And they could not take hold of his words before the people: and they marvelled at his answer, and held their peace.
cf. Luke 4:5–8
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Matthew 4:8–10
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
John 12:31; 31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
14:30; 30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
16:8–118 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Revelation 13:2; 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
19:19–2119 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Paul (see 1 Corinthians 2:6–8;
15:23,24—cf. 2 Corinthians 4:3,4; Ephesians 6:12)
1 Corinthians 2:6–8 6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
15:23,2423 But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
2 Corinthians 4:3,4; 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Ephesians 6:1212 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 1101 (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.
Isaiah 24:21,2221 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
Ezekiel 34:1–10; 1 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
Hosea 8:44 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.
Zechariah 10:3 3 Mine anger was kindled against the shepherds, and I punished the goats: for the LORD of hosts hath visited his flock the house of Judah, and hath made them as his goodly horse in the battle.
Re: The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
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Stavros
-If I did tell you my real name you would probably go through my publications to ridicule them because I have not explained the role played by Jesus of Nazareth in whatever I was writing about.
Is your field of expertise related to history? I'm always impressed with the depth in your comments...
Again, I can only applaud your patience dealing with this lunatic Stavros! You (and maybe Trish) have actually attempted to properly grapple with the content of this article. I would have thought that a modicum of respect could be thrown your way from Jamie on this basis alone; after all, what was the purpose for starting this thread if not to engage with someone about the subject matter?
Unfortunately it seems that Jamie is stuck on nasty, arrogant, and condescension. If she (?) really wants to convince people of her beliefs, surely an open debate with the issues is the best approach...
Re: The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
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loveboof
Is your field of expertise related to history? I'm always impressed with the depth in your comments...
Again, I can only applaud your patience dealing with this lunatic Stavros! You (and maybe Trish) have actually attempted to properly grapple with the content of this article. I would have thought that a modicum of respect could be thrown your way from Jamie on this basis alone; after all, what was the purpose for starting this thread if not to engage with someone about the subject matter?
Unfortunately it seems that Jamie is stuck on nasty, arrogant, and condescension. If she (?) really wants to convince people of her beliefs, surely an open debate with the issues is the best approach...
Thanks for your insight, I think the point really is that if someone goes to that length to research and write on a complex relationship -in this case between cosmology and history- they should get some attention, but equally if they don't like what I or anybody else says about it they should be able to do better than be abusive, and fail to explain glaring errors when they are presented with them. I think at a basic level Jamie wants to share her love of Jesus with everyone and inspire us to live an exemplary life, without realising that many of us have already been raised as Christians, or Jews, or in any other religion, or have no religion at all -and on the basis of her paper, are unlikely to be converted to her peculiar idea of 'the truth'.
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Physics of god?!? WTF?!? Hilarious!
Re: The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
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Stavros - i have no idea if you re a man of faith or an atheist, but in your patience with this person Jamie you display ideal Christian virtues. That you've been met with arrogant disdain and plain rudeness is very disappointing from someone who purports to live the Christian God.
Jamie why not simply be polite to Trish and Stavros who have - in my view - been astonishingly respectful of what the rest of us see as the ravings of a lunatic.
Because I'm basically replying to mentally-retarded children. So long as they persist in their mental retardation, then there is essentially no hope for them. All they can do is scoop up their excrement and throw it at shiny, bright objects, like the mental simians they are.
But for those who are interested in the truth, God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the known laws of physics. For much more on that, see my below article, which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics. The Omega Point cosmology demonstrates that the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point (the final cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacity having all the unique properties traditionally claimed for God, and of which is a different aspect of the Big Bang initial singularity, i.e., the first cause):
James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), September 10, 2012 (orig. pub. December 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysic...ryOfEverything , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Abfap2bp , http://flashmirrors.com/files/0mawzqh3rumfvod , http://depositfiles.com/files/oo7eqzopw , http://ziddu.com/download/20326479/R...f-God.pdf.html
Below is the abstract to my above article:
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ABSTRACT: Analysis is given of the Omega Point cosmology, an extensively peer-reviewed proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) published in leading physics journals by professor of physics and mathematics Frank J. Tipler, which demonstrates that in order for the known laws of physics to be mutually consistent, the universe must diverge to infinite computational power as it collapses into a final cosmological singularity, termed the Omega Point. The theorem is an intrinsic component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) describing and unifying all the forces in physics, of which itself is also required by the known physical laws. With infinite computational resources, the dead can be resurrected--never to die again--via perfect computer emulation of the multiverse from its start at the Big Bang. Miracles are also physically allowed via electroweak quantum tunneling controlled by the Omega Point cosmological singularity. The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions.
From this analysis, conclusions are drawn regarding the social, ethical, economic and political implications of the Omega Point cosmology.
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Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals.[1] Even NASA itself has peer-reviewed his Omega Point Theorem and found it correct according to the known laws of physics (see below). No refutation of it exists within the peer-reviewed scientific literature, or anywhere else for that matter.
Below are some of the peer-reviewed papers in physics and science journals and proceedings wherein Prof. Tipler has published his Omega Point cosmology:
* Frank J. Tipler, "Cosmological Limits on Computation", International Journal of Theoretical Physics, Vol. 25, No. 6 (June 1986), pp. 617-661, doi:10.1007/BF00670475, bibcode: 1986IJTP...25..617T. (First paper on the Omega Point cosmology.) http://webcitation.org/64KHgOccs , http://flashmirrors.com/files/kfxn99...omputation.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Sensorium of God: Newton and Absolute Space", bibcode: 1988nnds.conf..215T, in G[eorge]. V. Coyne, M[ichal]. Heller and J[ozef]. Zycinski (Eds.), "Message" by Franciszek Macharski, Newton and the New Direction in Science: Proceedings of the Cracow Conference, 25 to 28 May 1987 (Vatican City: Specola Vaticana, 1988), pp. 215-228, LCCN 88162460, bibcode: 1988nnds.conf.....C. http://webcitation.org/69Vb0JF1W , http://flashmirrors.com/files/0xicxa...ium-of-God.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point Theory: A Model of an Evolving God", in Robert J. Russell, William R. Stoeger and George V. Coyne (Eds.), message by John Paul II, Physics, Philosophy, and Theology: A Common Quest for Understanding (Vatican City: Vatican Observatory, 2nd ed., 2005; orig. pub. 1988), pp. 313-331, ISBN 0268015775, LCCN 89203331, bibcode: 1988pptc.book.....R. http://webcitation.org/69VaKG2nd , http://flashmirrors.com/files/0kwtgp...int-Theory.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Anthropic Principle: A Primer for Philosophers", in Arthur Fine and Jarrett Leplin (Eds.), PSA 1988: Proceedings of the 1988 Biennial Meeting of the Philosophy of Science Association, Volume Two: Symposia and Invited Papers (East Lansing, Mich.: Philosophy of Science Association, 1989), pp. 27-48, ISBN 091758628X. http://webcitation.org/69VarCM3I , http://flashmirrors.com/files/1uim5b...-Principle.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions for Scientists", Zygon: Journal of Religion & Science, Vol. 24, No. 2 (June 1989), pp. 217-253, doi:10.1111/j.1467-9744.1989.tb01112.x. Republished as Chapter 7: "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions to Scientists" in Carol Rausch Albright and Joel Haugen (editors), Beginning with the End: God, Science, and Wolfhart Pannenberg (Chicago, Ill.: Open Court Publishing Company, 1997), pp. 156-194, ISBN 0812693256, LCCN 97000114. http://webcitation.org/5nY0aytpz , http://flashmirrors.com/files/wschm7...s-eschaton.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The ultimate fate of life in universes which undergo inflation", Physics Letters B, Vol. 286, Nos. 1-2 (July 23, 1992), pp. 36-43, doi:10.1016/0370-2693(92)90155-W, bibcode: 1992PhLB..286...36T. http://webcitation.org/64Uskd785 , http://flashmirrors.com/files/zfu3hb...-inflation.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "A New Condition Implying the Existence of a Constant Mean Curvature Foliation", bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf..306T, in B. L. Hu and T. A. Jacobson (editors), Directions in General Relativity: Proceedings of the 1993 International Symposium, Maryland, Volume 2: Papers in Honor of Dieter Brill (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1993), pp. 306-315, ISBN 0521452678, bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf.....H. http://webcitation.org/5qbXJZiX5 , http://flashmirrors.com/files/tb8kpb...-foliation.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future of the Universe", NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Workshop Proceedings, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, January 1999, pp. 111-119; an invited paper in the proceedings of a conference held at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, Ohio, August 12-14, 1997; doi:2060/19990023204. Document ID: 19990023204. Report Number: E-11429; NAS 1.55:208694; NASA/CP-1999-208694. http://webcitation.org/5zPq69I0O Full proceedings volume: http://webcitation.org/69zAxm0sT
* Frank J. Tipler, "There Are No Limits To The Open Society", Critical Rationalist, Vol. 3, No. 2 (September 23, 1998). http://webcitation.org/5sFYkHgSS , http://flashmirrors.com/files/h7lkzd...en-Society.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, Jessica Graber, Matthew McGinley, Joshua Nichols-Barrer and Christopher Staecker, "Closed Universes With Black Holes But No Event Horizons As a Solution to the Black Hole Information Problem", arXiv:gr-qc/0003082, March 20, 2000. http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0003082 Published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 379, No. 2 (August 2007), pp. 629-640, doi:10.1111/j.1365-2966.2007.11895.x, bibcode: 2007MNRAS.379..629T. http://webcitation.org/5vQ3M8uxB , http://flashmirrors.com/files/mhaali...t-horizons.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Ultimate Future of the Universe, Black Hole Event Horizon Topologies, Holography, and the Value of the Cosmological Constant", arXiv:astro-ph/0104011, April 1, 2001. http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0104011 Published in J. Craig Wheeler and Hugo Martel (editors), Relativistic Astrophysics: 20th Texas Symposium, Austin, TX, 10-15 December 2000 (Melville, N.Y.: American Institute of Physics, 2001), pp. 769-772, ISBN 0735400261, LCCN 2001094694, which is AIP Conference Proceedings, Vol. 586 (October 15, 2001), doi:10.1063/1.1419654, bibcode: 2001AIPC..586.....W.
* Frank J. Tipler, "Intelligent life in cosmology", International Journal of Astrobiology, Vol. 2, No. 2 (April 2003), pp. 141-148, doi:10.1017/S1473550403001526, bibcode: 2003IJAsB...2..141T. http://webcitation.org/5o9QHKGuW Also at arXiv:0704.0058, March 31, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.0058
* F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers", Reports on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (April 2005), pp. 897-964, doi:10.1088/0034-4885/68/4/R04, bibcode: 2005RPPh...68..897T. http://math.tulane.edu/~tipler/theoryofeverything.pdf Also released as "Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended Standard Model as a Theory of Everything", arXiv:0704.3276, April 24, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276
* Frank J. Tipler, "Inevitable Existence and Inevitable Goodness of the Singularity", Journal of Consciousness Studies, Vol. 19, Nos. 1-2 (2012), pp. 183-93. http://webcitation.org/69JEi5wHp , http://flashmirrors.com/files/09x8nr...ingularity.pdf
Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in which the above August 2007 paper was published, is one of the world's leading peer-reviewed astrophysics journals.
Prof. Tipler's paper "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future of the Universe" was an invited paper for a conference held at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, so NASA itself has peer-reviewed Tipler's Omega Point Theorem (peer-review is a standard process for published proceedings papers; and again, Tipler's said paper was an *invited* paper by NASA, as opposed to what are called "poster papers").
Zygon is the world's leading peer-reviewed academic journal on science and religion.
Out of 50 articles, Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper--which presents the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE)--was selected as one of 12 for the "Highlights of 2005" accolade as "the very best articles published in Reports on Progress in Physics in 2005 [Vol. 68]. Articles were selected by the Editorial Board for their outstanding reviews of the field. They all received the highest praise from our international referees and a high number of downloads from the journal Website." (See Richard Palmer, Publisher, "Highlights of 2005", Reports on Progress in Physics. http://webcitation.org/5o9VkK3eE )
Reports on Progress in Physics is the leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main professional body for physicists. Further, Reports on Progress in Physics has a higher impact factor (according to Journal Citation Reports) than Physical Review Letters, which is the most prestigious American physics journal (one, incidently, which Prof. Tipler has been published in more than once). A journal's impact factor reflects the importance the science community places in that journal in the sense of actually citing its papers in their own papers.
For much more on these matters, see my above-cited article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" in addition to my below website:
Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com , http://theophysics.freevar.com
The only way to avoid the Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point cosmology is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology.
Additionally, we now have the quantum gravity Theory of Everything (TOE) required by the known laws of physics and that correctly describes and unifies all the forces in physics: of which inherently produces the Omega Point cosmology. So here we have an additional high degree of assurance that the Omega Point cosmology is correct.
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1. While there is a lot that gets published in physics journals that is anti-reality and non-physical (such as String Theory, which violates the known laws of physics and has no experimental support whatsoever), the reason such things are allowed to pass the peer-review process is because the paradigm of assumptions which such papers are speaking to has been made known, and within their operating paradigm none of the referees could find anything crucially wrong with said papers. That is, the paradigm itself may have nothing to do with reality, but the peer-reviewers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with such papers within the operating assumptions of that paradigm. Whereas, e.g., the operating paradigm of Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper and his other papers on the Omega Point Theorem is the known laws of physics, i.e., our actual physical reality which has been repeatedly confirmed by every experiment conducted to date. So the professional physicists charged with refereeing these papers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with them within their operating paradigm, i.e., the known laws of physics.
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Jamie. Please desist from the rudeness which you here apply to long established members of this board ... That is referring to Stavros and Trisha as "mentally retarded children"
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Jamie. Please desist from the rudeness which you here apply to long established members of this board ... That is referring to Stavros and Trisha as "mentally retarded children"
That is not being rude. This is a moral failing on their part. They have the mental capacity to understand, yet they choose not to due to their cowardice. So instead, they deliberately choose to misunderstand.
The fate of all cowards is Perdition.
It would be exceptionally rude of me not to tell them what imbiciles they are being. The point of my article is to save peoples' souls, i.e., the mental programs of their minds.
The problem with that is that a number of people regard the very concept of immortality, even through technology, with derision.
What can one say to such people? It doesn't matter what one says. Whatever one says, however true it is, will simply be regarded as a joke to them.
There is no set of words which can have any affect upon such people. They believe themselves to be the walking dead. They are mental zombies.
Their only belief, their only faith, is death.
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Jamie reminds me of Dr Morbius, the brilliant but obsessed Scientist from Forbidden Planet. HOWEVER, that movie was based on the Shakespeare play The Tempest, and the Morbius character was based on Prospero!!! Coincidence? I think not.
Lord, What fools these mortals be!!! -Puck, the Fairy.
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Has experiment confirmed that spatial sections of the cosmos are diffeomorphic to 3-spheres? Can you cite the paper?
That is established by the Omega Point cosmology itself.
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Has experiment confirmed there is at least one life-form having worldlines extending to the causal boundary? Can you cite the paper?
That has no relevance to the truth of Omega Point cosmology, since that would itself be established by the correctness of the Omega Point cosmology. For the details on that, see my below article:
James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), September 10, 2012 (orig. pub. December 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysic...ryOfEverything , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Abfap2bp , http://flashmirrors.com/files/0mawzqh3rumfvod , http://depositfiles.com/files/oo7eqzopw , http://ziddu.com/download/20326479/R...f-God.pdf.html
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Has this......been confirmed by experiment? Could you cite the paper please?
Sure. All life is based upon nanoassemblers. My reference: life.
But if you wish to have references that are commonly considered more substantial, then see Appendix A: "The Bekenstein Bound" of my previously-cited article.
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The assumptions in Tipler's model are multitude and every bit as whimsical as what you're find in string theory.
Actually, the only "assumptions" of the Omega Point cosmology are the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), which have been repeatedly confirmed by every experiment to date. The only way to avoid the Omega Point cosmology is to reject empirical science.
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But let's say, for the sake of argument, that Tipler's model actually does pass as a reasonable representation of the universe as well as we can test it. Let's also grant
there is a sense in which the Omega Point is omniscient,
another sense in which it's omnipresent and
yet another sense in which it's omnipotent. Tipler would assert that from the assumptions that were just granted for the sake of argument, there is a proof that,
in the sense specified by your definitions, there is a unique omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent point (not actually in our space-time but) on the abstract causal compactification of our space-time.
In what sense is that point god?
In the sense specified by your definitions of three O's (omniscience etc.) of course. But that's not a proof that the Christian god exists. It's a proof (modulo all of the baseless assumptions of course) that Tipler's mathematical conception of god exists as an imaginary point on the mathematically idealized boundary of a universe that has no real boundary. I have to say (in fact I already have
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...6&postcount=46 ) that Tipler's conception of god is pretty weak tea. Hippifried's model is simpler, equally explanatory and has much wider support: the answer is 42.
It's God because it has all the unique properties of God. How else could it be Gold?
You are very strange. Obviously you dislike this result, yet you're of so low morals that you're wasting my time with such inane inquiries.
I'm sorry if reality isn't whatever you thought it was or what you obviously want it to be, but at least have the decency not to take that out upon me.
You should be thanking me, not harassing me with so many self-absorbed and antagonistic questions.
Like I said, I'm sorry reality wasn't what you wanted it to be. In actuality, I'm not sorry, because this is the best thing possible. But you're too self-absorbed to even begin contemplating how divergence to infinite knowledge would be a boon to pleasure.
And no, the reponse that you're just being of scientific mind won't do, either. Because if infinite computation does not exist then we're all fucked royally. In which case it doesn't matter what anyone's beliefs are, as we're all dead then.
