Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
Well yes...but...maybe the question is why the USA seems to demand that its Presidential candidates be happily married men with children, grandchildren and an unshakeable belief in Almighty God -not a reflection of the population that elects them. Family values is a tired old concept that is also an inaccurate reflection of how people live, so its part of the package deal you have created for yourselves presumably because the alternative would be too -unpredictable? Is that it? Single man who doesn't believe in God, whatever will he do to the country? Encourage fornication? Don't get a relationship, get drunk!
We had a Prime Minister who was single, gay and was not once outed in public or held up to ridicule because of it. But here, he became PM because he was leader of the Party, and attempts to get people to vote on the basis of the PM's character tend to fail, because party loyalty is, or was at one time, the key indicator.
So Gingrich fell out with his wife -they probably detested each other by the time she got to hospital, that's personal and their business; is he the kind of man who would make a good President? Some argue his wayward ranging over ideas would make policy making chaotic and haphazard, but from what I have read of his policy statements, he has no practical alternative to lift the USA out of recession, and would stumble through expensive foreign policy nightmares caused by the man's lamenable ignorance of world affairs. But so far, as Ron Paul pointed out, the GOP has selected about 3% of the convention delegates, and a week is a long time in politics. This election is still Obama's to lose.
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
Sonnet 116
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.
___William Shakespeare
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
And after that, the rest is silence!
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
In last night's debate (debate number 2,123 -- ha ha! :)) Newt hinted at Mitt's crony capitalist ties...
Mitt's use of subsidies and tax loopholes at Bain directly contradicts his "free market" ideals:
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/19/romn...ing/singleton/
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
Justin Raimondo is a libertarian -- :)
Adelson, Gingrich, and the Selling of America:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...ng-of-america/
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
Gingrich is being bankrolled by the Adelsons. Mitt is being bankrolled by billionaire Paul Singer. It, well, seems we've an unelected dictatorship of billionaires -- ha ha!
But BOTH parties are vying for the same corporate dollars -- or billionaire bucks -- :)
Miriam Adelson Winning Our Future Donation: Gingrich Super PAC Gets Millions - YouTube
Nothing has changed in US politics - YouTube
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
So our president hosts jimmy buffets poor downtrodden secretary for the state of the campaign speech. This poor woman pays a higher tax rate than her boss! She is probably surviving on cat food and cardboard shavings. That damn Bush! Lets ignore the fact that she pays personal income and her boss pays capitol gains taxes on his investments, (funds that were most likely previously taxed at the personal income rate). Facts like that just muddy the water and dull the effectiveness of demonizing a class of people.
Oh wait, she earns between $200k - $500k. She just purchased her second home, (well you have to keep the cat food somewhere). What purposed does this serve other than class warfare?
obummer gives 1% annually in charitable gifts, Biden a whopping $368.00. These are the people who demand we give more. Maybe they ought to look at there own balance sheet and start giving more. Romney gives close to 15% of his income to charity, Bush regularly gave over 10%. Its a common difference between liberal and conservative, one wants government to take all your money so it can decide who should have it. The other believes in personal responsibility to community, and the right to donate to the caused you believe in.
Re: Why is Newt Gingrich waging class warfare?
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Faldur
...Lets ignore the fact that she pays personal income and her boss pays capitol gains taxes on his investments, (funds that were most likely previously taxed at the personal income rate).
Funds are not taxed. It is the transfer of money from one set of hands to another that is taxed. If you think Capital (with an “o”) gains are taxed twice you just don’t understand how money and taxes work. I got a paycheck sent to my checking count at the end of last month (I’m looking forward to the next one too). Taxes were taken out before it got there. The hundred that I withdrew yesterday came from what’s left over. Was that hundred taxed? Of course not. I have all of it. Was the money taken out taxed? No. Of course not. It was used to pay the taxes on the total paid to me by my employer. I paid taxes, but you can’t point to a single dollar that was taxed. That’s because money isn’t taxed. Transfers of money from one entity to another are taxed. The same with capital gains. They're called gains because someone receives them while another entity pays them. It's a transfer of wealth. Taxing capital gains is not double taxation. There’s no such thing. It’s an invention of lobbyists designed to confuse and muddle the muddled. Well that’s only the secondary reason for the invention. The primary reason is to keep the tax rates of their clients as low as possible.
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Romney gives close to 15% of his income to charity
He "tithes". It's the Mormon tax. Deductable for paying real taxes of course. That's how they pay for their socialist system. Other Churches do the same thing, Cafholics especially, but the LDS are much more adament about it. It ain't passing the plate. They can bill you, do payroll deduction, pay quarterly, monthly, weekly, however you like. As long as you pay. If it stops, they send somebody around to find out why. They dun the shit out of people who just get cheap.
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hippifried
He "tithes". It's the Mormon tax. Deductable for paying real taxes of course. That's how they pay for their socialist system. Other Churches do the same thing, Cafholics especially, but the LDS are much more adament about it. It ain't passing the plate. They can bill you, do payroll deduction, pay quarterly, monthly, weekly, however you like. As long as you pay. If it stops, they send somebody around to find out why. They dun the shit out of people who just get cheap.
I believe he "tithes", which would be giving 10% of his income to the church. Not fully familiar with the Mormon church, but I think its a "recommended" commitment not mandated. I can speak from my own experience, I tithe because I believe its biblical. Who gets my donations is up to me, some goes to my church and the rest to charities that I believe in and want to support. I do it because I believe its the right thing to do.
Mitt's tithe is not deducted from his paycheck. It is a voluntary gift given because he wants to, and believes its where he wants his money to go.