Embarassing

I had an uncle and I have a cousin (the uncle's son) who were both U.S. Marines. I love 'em both. I won't make any judgments about the Marines in general, but those two were and are definitely short on tacos, God love 'em they're dumb.

I would not cast aspersions on the US Marines either. I am sure most of damn fine and brave young men. The ones that I met were. Which makes the deviant and stupid behaviour of a handful even more astonishing.

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Originally Posted by hippifried

All is forgiven because we're the civilized savages. Besides, civilized behavior & the "rules of war" are only for the defeated, & then only if the winner can't be isolated from the rest of the world long enough.

Here we go with unreasonable expectations again. I don't understand why anyone would expect civilized behavior from a bunch of kids, barely out of high school, who's current chosen occupation is killing, maiming, & generally ruining the lives of other people. Despite the cradle to grave memetic propagandizing to the contrary, there's nothing glorious, honorable, or moral about war in any aspect or at any level of human participation. Bloodlust & assholish behavior is not the human norm. These guys wouldn't even be marines if they weren't a couple tacos light of a combination plate to start with. Oh, is that politically incorrect? Too bad. Get over it. I don't do hero worship, & I just don't buy the bullshit that military adventurism is the reason I can speak my mind.

Is something going to happen to these particular marines? I don't know & I don't care. The only thing anybody seems to be pissed off about is that they were stupid enough to get caught. Nobody wants to know what's actually going on. Reality gets in the way of all that good whining from all sides & political bents. So much more convenient to just ignorantly claim victimhood as an excuse to be assholes.

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Now we know how you really feel about the United States Marines, Hippi. Not judging your opinion, just identifying and magnifying it.

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I don't understand why anyone would expect civilized behavior from a bunch of kids, barely out of high school, who's current chosen occupation is killing, maiming, & generally ruining the lives of other people. Despite the cradle to grave memetic propagandizing to the contrary, there's nothing glorious, honorable, or moral about war in any aspect or at any level of human participation.

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Back to no magnification but narrowing the field of focus.

I usually prefer the whole movie over just the trailer especially on a big screen.

You never hear them say "The popcorn of truth", instead it's always "The kernel of truth".

Great to see some folks would love to nail these boys to the wall for a small infraction and remember these terrorist were already dead.Remember the reason America is in Afganistan in the first place is because of the Twin Towers not because these muslim dogs are so innocent

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Originally Posted by trish

You never hear them say "The popcorn of truth", instead it's always "The kernel of truth".

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Kernel, Popcorn. You're making me hungry. Pass the butter and bourbon please. The movie is about to begin.

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Originally Posted by russtafa

Great to see some folks would love to nail these boys to the wall for a small infraction and remember these terrorist were already dead.Remember the reason America is in Afganistan in the first place is because of the Twin Towers not because these muslim dogs are so innocent

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You are obviously confused about the NATO campaign -the Taliban were not responsible for 9/11, al-Qaeda was. You might recall after the 'triumph' of allied bombing in late 2001 and early 2002 which ended the Taliban rule of Afghanistan and shattered al-Qaeda in Afghanistan forcing bin Laden, al_Zawahiri and others to flee, the US, the UK and their allies abandoned Afghanistan to the warlords.

The Taliban are not terrorists, they are fighting to free their country from foreign occupation -the foreign troops from the very same countries who crowed about their victory ten years ago. And when you have stopped shedding tears for all those young lads (and lasses) who have been killed or injured there, are you going to give much thought to the 30-40-50 year old officers who 'control' them? Innocents abroad? Not really. Presumably if this was 1980 and you were living in London you would be advocating the mass slaughter of 'Irish dogs' -??

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Originally Posted by russtafa

these young guys were sent by our governments to kill and then they are told to be little gentlemen and when they fuck up in extra ordinary circumstances that you or me would freak out in.fuck off! you expect too much of young guys that could die at any time

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My... You really are confused. Couldn't bother to read what's there huh? Just grabbed hold of the last 2 sentences & decided to live up to my assessment of whiners who like to prerend to be be some kind of gumbah tough guys?

They weren't "sent". We've been in Afghanistan since these guys were in grade school. They went out of their way to get into those "extraordinary circumstances" that freak you out so bad. Fuck off yourself. The whole point of my post was that I don't expect anything other than what happened. Barbaric behavior isn't just condoned in the "civilized world". It's promoted & called "gentlemanly". Like I said: "Civilized Savages".