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I would agree wholeheartedly Pumpdaddy. That sounds exactly like something my old Sensei might have said.

I start from a position of avoidance and evasion, but if your going to put it in my face Ill turn that right around on you. Ive been blindside before, and you can cripple even the best of them with suprise...Anticipating the attack is a very subtle and learned skill...took me many h2h's to read it.

My first thought is legal...what can I get away with and are there witnesses that will involve the police...2nd thought, can I and whomever im with escape the situation without consequences......3rd thought is how to neutralize the situation as quickly as possible, and what level of force is required.

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Originally Posted by BlackAdder

I would agree wholeheartedly Pumpdaddy. That sounds exactly like something my old Sensei might have said.

I start from a position of avoidance and evasion, but if your going to put it in my face Ill turn that right around on you. Ive been blindside before, and you can cripple even the best of them with suprise...Anticipating the attack is a very subtle and learned skill...took me many h2h's to read it.

My first thought is legal...what can I get away with and are there witnesses that will involve the police...2nd thought, can I and whomever im with escape the situation without consequences......3rd thought is how to neutralize the situation as quickly as possible, and what level of force is required.

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Actually, first and foremost.... protect the innocent or defenseless! I'll give you an example. About 5 years ago, I'm headed East on the LIE out of Manhattan at about 4 AM. I'm driving a convertible, the top down with my fiance seated to my right and a friend in the back seat passenger side, returning home from the Vault. I'm doing about 90mph and I pass a car in the centerlane that was probably doing 75mph or so, and for some unknown reason, he wasn't cool with that. So the guy pulls up to me and throws a bottle at my car that hits the side panel and immediately heads for the exit (Cross Island Pky). I follow him up the exit, he stops at the light, I pull up to his left and I start to exit the car, with the taste of blood already in my mouth! As I'm jumping out of my car, five guys pile out of his car, one of them saying, "A-ha! NOW what are you going to ...." before he took a good look at me and froze in mid-speech. It was summer, I had on a pair of dress pants and a trapeze tank, I'd been on high dosages of very heavily androgenic steroids for about 12 years (yes, one continuous 12 year cycle!), and I looked it (23" striated upper arms). The five of them, who were all on their way to get to me froze in their tracks, and all headed toward my fiance and friend (who of course were cursing them out for throwing the bottle).

Without them there, it's pretty cut and dry. I know how to fight (Golden Gloves, disciplined in Muay Thai and Gracie Jiu-Jitsu) and I'm demonically strong so I'd have established a zone, a pecking order of who gets it in what order as I would have closed the distance. I'm good like that. I hit them, and I don't have to repeat myself, once is enough. But this was turning into a debacle. A no-win situation. My fiance was 5'3", 120 lbs., my friend 5'4", 140 lbs., and the five guys who immediately lost interest in me were already hovering at the right sde of my car, and the top was down. I had made it as far as the bumper of my car and instictively slowed when I counted 5 antagonists (I expected 2 or 3) and wen I saw that they had more interest in the two occupants in my car than in confronting me, I knew that once I came around the car to start grounding and pounding, I might be too occupied to protect my fiance and friend, who definitely would have gotten hurt in the ensuing chaos. I couldn't risk engaging them effectively without worrying about shielding them from any harm. I can take a good hit and keep smiling, they can't take a bump.

What did I do? The only thing I could of done in that unworkable situation. I ran up on the hood and over the windshield (the shortest path back to the driver's seat) put the car in gear and drove off. Did they follow? You bet they didn't!

I would have loved to play it out with them under different circumstances. But under that set of circumstances, you have to think about safeguarding your loved ones first. I did about 30 minutes worth of decision making crammed into less than 5 seconds (and you do get the feeling that time is standing still in that type of critical situation) and when convinced that only one action could yield a positive outcome, I acted on it and ran. If I hadn't, a frind or loved one could have easily paid the price for my error in judgement, especially that I was the one that followed the car up the exit ramp thereby putting them in possible harm's way.

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

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as this guy is alreay starting "chrysanthemum..."

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Shit, I'd already be dead. I can't even say "chryifamumthanthumum".

See? :wink:

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

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J even if that was directed towards me a little bit, Its still fucking classic... I almost choked on my chicken breast reading it...

yeah I think its funny that a guy with 23 inch arms thats been on juice for a full year straight would give anyone advice on anything health related... the anabolic lag he is going to suffer if he ever does come off is going to be terrible, no amount of clomid, hcg or tribex is going to get his natural test back to normal levels without a long period of lethargy and probably some serious depression...

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He didn't say a 12 month cycle, he said a 12 year cycle!!! He's a bright boy...sounds like the recently banned FeeYuckYu...

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I would agree wholeheartedly It was summer, I had on a pair of dress pants and a trapeze tank, I'd been on high dosages of very heavily androgenic steroids for about 12 years (yes, one continuous 12 year cycle!), and I looked it (23" striated upper arms).

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J even if that was directed towards me a little bit, Its still fucking classic... I almost choked on my chicken breast reading it...

yeah I think its funny that a guy with 23 inch arms thats been on juice for a full year straight would give anyone advice on anything health related... the anabolic lag he is going to suffer if he ever does come off is going to be terrible, no amount of clomid, hcg or tribex is going to get his natural test back to normal levels without a long period of lethargy and probably some serious depression...

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Not a full year straight. I'm on what you would call a "life-cycle". Been on since I went on. I'm from the Dan Duchaine school. If you're going on, stay the fuck on! I'm always on. I simply cycle my dosages from heavy to heavier. Most would have sustained hypertrophic hardening of the heart, leading to congestive heart failure or other coronary complications after just a few years of what I've been on for 15!

Genetics have alot to do with muscle growth/density capacity. Genetics predetermine the upper limits of your strength and developement. They also predetermine exactly how your body will utilize anabolics. Each individual's ability to assimilate and utilize anabolics. Everyone's receptor cells are geared differently towards this end. Some can train as though the Devil himself was on their shoulder, eat right, rest right, and shoot 5 grams of gear weekly. If their receptors will only assimilate 1 gram of gear weekly, they're exposing their organs to 4 grams weekly quite unnecessarily.

Genetically speaking, most users are taking far more anabolics than their receptors can assimilate. The body's Steroid Receptors are like sponges. They can only soak up a finite amount. Some, have small sponges, others have large sponges. The excess spilling over, not used towards muscle growth, but affecting the organs that you don't want affected, like the heart, liver, kidneys, and adrenal glands.

This is further complicated by those that inject into bodyparts that are more vascular and capillary rich than the buttocks. Injecting into the upper arms and shoulders creates a more efficient pathway for the gear to reach your heart. The combined use of growth hormone and insulin in the array further enhances this damaging effect.

I've seen many friends and gym associates become very ill or outright die as a result directly related to their steroid use. Many, because they should have hung up their needle past the age of 35, your age. 35 is the point of no return. The point at which steroid users should realize that as they progress in age beyond that point, each use, each cycle, has an increasingly exponential damaging effect. It's twice as dangerous for a 40 year old to be on cycle than a 35 year old. It's 10X as dangerous for a 50 year old to be on cycle than a 40 year old, etc., etc. This is why you don't see too many 40+ Mr. Olympia contenders.

You're using very light gear, so your risk is not as great as others. But every user should at least get an EKG every 6 months, which might prevent one day waking up and not being able to breathe because your lungs filled up with water.

There's a reason why steroids are illegal. Because the potential is there for them to kill you. It's not because the government doesn't want you cheating at sports. The stuff is dangerous in non-medical hands.

My point was, whatever it is that you have built muscularly doesn't look like it was built with steroids. It looks like a physique that is easily attainable without gear. Something you could maintain with sound nutrition, adequate rest, circuit training and aerobics. Why expose yourself to any risk, even if you feel it minimal, if it's not making that much of a difference anyway? You're built more like a swimmer than a lifter, which I'm not saying is a bad thing.