2 Convicted of Murdering Transgender Teen

Hi everybody!
This is my first post after reading this forum for a while. And actually Gwen´s dead and the comments in this thread pushed me to register and participate.
I would like to take this to the concept Seanchai stated. This happen in this world and it´s not a perfect world. However, you can reduce the posibilities of something to happen to you if you are aware of your surroundings. Unfortunattly most of us get into situations we don´t want and it´s when things could happen. Is there any assurance that if she had told the guys she was a TS they would have respect her? No.
We all run into risky situations. I would rather send send a message to everyone out there to be aware and always be carefull.

some of you live in a magical world full of unicorns and rainbows if you think people as a whole are good and virtuous. a guy who isn't in to trannys who's been tricked into thinking he was with a girl is probably the one of most dangerous persons on earth. on hungangels it ends as a hot text story, in real life it usually ends with injury or murder

I hope you're not referring to me ?

Once again,

Its a shame what happened,

But to believe 3 young straight men/boys are gonna be ok with being tricked, well...thats enough naivety to spread several times over.

No one believes it's ok to be tricked, but it's infinitely less acceptable to take violent, and especially lethal, action because you've been tricked.

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Originally Posted by Ecstatic

No one believes it's ok to be tricked, but it's infinitely less acceptable to take violent, and especially lethal, action because you've been tricked.

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I've been keeping my mouth shut on this for good reason, unlike a lot of people, I believe that if Gwen had been open, upfront, and honest about this, she'd still be alive today. Think about it this way; if you were not into transsexuals, and you were at a party, and you picked up this 'hot chick', had sex with her, and then found out...wouldn't you be pissed? Hell, I know some guys that if that ever happened to them, the body would never be found. It doesn't excuse the crime, but.....you've got to take some responsibility and protect yourself upfront.

This is my first post here and its difficult to read this thread. I agree with you all in saying that murder is of course wrong and nobody deserves what happened here, however i think that for many of you to believe that she did not put herself in harms way is a bit naive. To think that everybody in this world would not react violently to finding out that the person they were with was in fact of the opposite gender is misguided. It in no way condones the actions but it is not at all unthinkable that some may react violently. Just my opinion.

IM REALLY SORRY TO HEAR THIS, BUT ITS NO EXCUSE TO KILL HER YES SHE DID A VERY BAD THING, SHES A YOUNG TRANNIE HAVING FUN BEING PASSABLE. TIME AND TIME AGAIN I MAKE SURE I TELL GUYS IM TRANS EVEN IF THEY DO GET UPSET BECAUSE I ASSUME THEY NO, NOWADAYS ITS NO SECRET WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A TRANS UNLESS YOU ARE UNDENIABLE AND IM NOT THAT IM PASSABLE TO A CERTAIN EXTAINT BUT I STILL TELL IM A TRANS.

SO PLEASE LADIES DONT PUT YOURSELF IN THAT KIND OF DANGER DICK ITS NOT WORTH LOOSING YOUR LIFE OVER.

I'm really getting sick and tired being labeled "naive" or living in La-La land by some in here because I felt the killers carried their rage above and beyond what a rational person would do. Is that the way you guys react ?

... Did this young woman either intentionally or inadvertently deceive these punks ? Yep. Did she deserve to be the subject of anger and rage ? Possibly. Did she deserve to die, particularly how they went about it ? Hell fuckin' no !!! Hell no!

And fuck all of you who seem to think that the manifestation of their rage was somehow justified because she should have known better, or some other irrational bullshit.

Well said, realgirls4me. That same logic has been used to excuse rape ("she was asking for it--look at how she was dressed"), but it doesn't work there and sure doesn't work here. Yes, she put herself at risk (though at 17, even if intentional, I doubt she really understood the implications), but that does not excuse their actions. Yes, girls should take a lesson and be careful because there are guys out there who will react that way: but that's only sensible, it doesn't in any way exonerate them.