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Does the Adult Film Industry have a "Peoples Choice Award" that would award the performer voted by the consumer. (of course they'd have to call it something else)
Perhaps the Industry should take example from Mainstream Film and offer more than 1 venue held by a private corporation.
I think this is another good analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
Again, what is done is done. I have congratulated you Buck. I don't have to agree with the outcome though. Regardless you won an award against girls. Nice job. It's like the Lakers beating a WNBA team in Summer league and saying how they deserved it because they were the better basketball players. It's like Mike Tyson in his prime knocking out Oprah Winfrey and her 4 best friends in one match and then saying how he is the best boxer. Frankly I wish you could understand why it is unfair to rank men against women in contests regardless of them being gender fucks or genetic.
People read this and say, "there is the cunt Vicki again" or "there is evil Vicki"... but I just don't believe male and female performers should ever be ranked against one another in a category dealing with sex, physical attributes, or performance. I don't care if it's unfair and you don't have your own because you are the only one. Your the lone 2006 TS man in porn and you beat a potential 1,000 TS girl performers.
Can I put up my Vicki on a cross image again? Can I please, please :twisted:
Oh maybe not...
seanchai
You know Vicki ......your not evil or trying to be a cunt(not that thats a bad thing).Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
But your focus on Buck is WRONG!!!
Its the industry of people you look up to who are in my opinion nothing but homophobes and transphobes!
Get into it!
If you REALLY want to get straight to the point I think Vaniity should have won EVERY year because she draws in more people to watch tranny porn because they dont believe she has a dick.
Now I could say "Vicki....you and the other girls will NEVER compare to Vaniity,Vaniity is this and that and such as such....
That would be wrong to say........
This world is about VARIETY.
Different strokes for different folks.
I applaud Buck and guess what he passes better than you so now what?
Transexuals arent even accepted in GAY soceity......they are tolerated.
Stop being negative towards your own.......
If you girls would work together you could accomplish more.
How come there are no awards by transexuals themselves?
Why are you looking to the dominant culture for awards and acceptance?
Its all about harmony and unity and being self sufficent.
Screw the adult industry.
They fuck over genetic girls.
Beautiful ones.
Get real and get active.
And as a sometimes user of tranny porn Im willing to do my part.
Peace
I agree with Naomi Katsumi Is it me or Jenna Jameson get's an award every fucking year
Ion think Hillary Scott shoulda got performer of the year i think Bella or even Naomi Shoulda got it
No Steve Holmes No Manuel Ferrera that list is pretty much bullshit
What the hell is a buck angel anyway
What the hell is a michneo anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by michneo
Jeez - you certainly no how to make yourself sound really really dumb.
seanchai
When I'm wrong I'll readily admit it, but your just saying so, absent any proof or support, doesn't make it so. Your comparison to the Oscars is an example of a flawed analogy. They don't have a best performer category. They have best actor and best actress. Some have argued that its unfair to compare dramatic and comedic performances against each other, which is maybe why other awards tend to have two separate categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Vicki's analogies don't really track either. I'm sure Buck is a very talented performer, but he isn't the NBA to the WNBA or Tyson to Oprah. Boxing and Basketball are largely objectively decided. The person or team who scores the most points or inflicts the most damage wins. Frankly, my money would be on Oprah, but I digress
None of this is really relevant to the point I made, which is a well documented and often exploited dynamic of elections. Where you have one unique candidate being compared or competing with mutliple similar candidates, the unique one has a very distinct advantage. Its about dilution of support. Thats why political parties have run "false flag" candidates. A candidate who might lose 40 per cent to 60 percent to one candidate can win against 2, who each get 30 per cent. Bush won in small part in 2000 because Nader drew votes that would have gone to Gore in a two man race. Clinton probably benefitted from Perot in somewhat the same fashion, though Perot was more of a centrist and arguably drew support from both sides.
No matter how you frame the analogy. it won't hang true if the comparison is weighted too heavily to one side. Best beverage can't compare 5 pinots to one ale. Best Vehicle can't be 5 Ferraris to one Lambo so on and so forth. and Apples to Oranges don't compare, especially if you put up a Navel against a Pippin, a Golden Delicious, a Mcintosh and a Granny Smith
FK
Yeah but your wrong - and it's not my saying so, it's obvious and common sense. Your completely and utterly wrong. Black and white - so don't twist the facts to fit your desires.
What happened to you? You used to post informative and interesting posts on a number of topics, you now only jump in when it appears that one of your chums has been slighted in some way? Somebody hits the bat light for an excellent litigator and you come running, like a dog - not a cat.
Buck is not a dog - and he wasn't competing with cats. It was Best Transsexual Performer - move on this just stinks of sour grapes.
seanchai
I'll admit I was wrong, to try to have a reasoned discussion. I offer an analogy. You simply say its wrong but can't or won't say how. When you offer an analogy of your own, I say its flawed (not wrong) and then point out just how I think its flawed. (btw, I also point out the flaws in Vicki's arguments, slighting my own "chum" in your words). I then explain and expound and expand on my own analogy and you ignore what I say, and just reiterate that its wrong because you say its obvious and against common sense, again without saying how.
And then you accuse me of twisting the facts? What fact did I twist? The only fact in play is that at the AVN, one FTM performance somehow competes against 5 MTF ones. Thats it. Thats all.
You say Buck's performance was the best Transsexual one. Do you really think it would stack up, one on one, against every other nominated performance? Nothing against Buck, and not to take anything away from his accomplishments, but I think the answer to that question is obvious and common sense.
After ignoring the gist of, or not responding to my message, you then attack the messenger. Its true I don't post here often any more because very little is discussed of any interest to me anymore. Politics and Religion are off on their own online leper colony and what few substantive discussions that make the mainland quickly devolve into personal attacks. So we are clear, I never said Buck was a dog, or the other girls were pussys. That's your twist. Sour Grapes? I never argued who should have won, only that it was virtually impossible for any nominated girl to do so under the circumstances. Buck is a brave and talented performer deserving of recognition and the other nominees are all beautiful and talented and deserving too. But incomparably so.
moving on
FK
You probably need to. I will stop. I think I made my point. I just get passionate about some things that I probably don't need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai