why do SOME white people think its ok to be racist?

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Originally Posted by Quickman

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Originally Posted by uncutlove

You have a swastika in your avatar.

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Jeezis, that symbol was a sign of good luck far before the nazis used it. I guess eagles are bad too since they used to appear in nazi standards. The nazis copied the romans in that regard btw.

http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swa...ikahistory.htm

I think you're taking that avatar out of context to make a point. Seems kinda smarmy to me...

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I know that it was used as good luck, kid. You're not educating anybody. I was just saying, if you ask 90% of the people in the world what a swastika stands for, theyre not gonna say "good luck" Hate to break it to you.

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Originally Posted by Kabuki

I think this has been explained to you already.

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You thought wrong, because I knew of this like 10 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Smog Boy

Well stop voting Bush!!

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Yeah! :wink:

God and racism always bring out the best (and worst) in this forum.

(I):The simple truth is anti-Black racism will never die in America. You can speak about other peoples, but the disdain for the Black race is unique. Part of it deals with the way Blacks were brought over here, as animals seen as less than human, alot of it is fear, and admit it or not, alot of it is envy!
The greatest most liberal tree hugging white person will always have a line of demarcation (usually the OJ Simpson trial).

(II):The "PC" movement has done much to ruin America--- it is ok to get upset at something or someone and you don't have to accept all behavior in the name of tolerance. We don't have to be tolerant of everything---everything is not good.The gangsta/ghetto/thug movement in America should be denounced and dealt with; in that sense the white people are the real "pussies", shunning their resposibilities of putting down this domestic terrorism. The problem is white people don't differentiate types of black people (it was Chris Rock who said "love me some black people, hate me some niggas"). Black people don't like the ghetto thug with the blaring vulgar music,29" rims on 24" car that can't spell "job" anymore than anyone else.

(III):Although hip-hop in general sucks these days and I believe it is truly one of the causes of a generation of young black people being lost, taken as a whole and looked at over it's entire history, it is a viable art form with many TALENTED ARTISTS. I defy any rap hater to make just one rap song that anyone would want to listen to. And if you think heavy metal is an art form you know nothing about music---most of the songs use 3 chords max. It is truly sad however that whenever you see an awards show these days, you know the black artist that performs is simply going to grab a mic--never an instrument anymore...Oh, and Tupac was very talented, anyone who doesn't think so doesn't know anything about him--- he was just conflicted and got caught up in the "street cred" thing. A quick perusal of his songs shows he goes from sensitve and thought provoking to juvenile and simply commercial. So don't talk about things you don't know.

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Originally Posted by uncutlove

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Originally Posted by Quickman

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Originally Posted by uncutlove

You have a swastika in your avatar.

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Jeezis, that symbol was a sign of good luck far before the nazis used it. I guess eagles are bad too since they used to appear in nazi standards. The nazis copied the romans in that regard btw.

http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swa...ikahistory.htm

I think you're taking that avatar out of context to make a point. Seems kinda smarmy to me...

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I know that it was used as good luck, kid. You're not educating anybody. I was just saying, if you ask 90% of the people in the world what a swastika stands for, theyre not gonna say "good luck" Hate to break it to you.

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Actually the Nazi's took a symbol of good luck from Eastern Europe and REVERSED it, that is the Swastika. Be careful of your left and right.

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Originally Posted by sucka4chix

God and racism always bring out the best (and worst) in this forum.

(I):The simple truth is anti-Black racism will never die in America. You can speak about other peoples, but the disdain for the Black race is unique. Part of it deals with the way Blacks were brought over here, as animals seen as less than human, alot of it is fear, and admit it or not, alot of it is envy!
The greatest most liberal tree hugging white person will always have a line of demarcation (usually the OJ Simpson trial).

(II):The "PC" movement has done much to ruin America--- it is ok to get upset at something or someone and you don't have to accept all behavior in the name of tolerance. We don't have to be tolerant of everything---everything is not good.The gangsta/ghetto/thug movement in America should be denounced and dealt with; in that sense the white people are the real "pussies", shunning their resposibilities of putting down this domestic terrorism. The problem is white people don't differentiate types of black people (it was Chris Rock who said "love me some black people, hate me some niggas"). Black people don't like the ghetto thug with the blaring vulgar music,29" rims on 24" car that can't spell "job" anymore than anyone else.

(III):Although hip-hop in general sucks these days and I believe it is truly one of the causes of a generation of young black people being lost, taken as a whole and looked at over it's entire history, it is a viable art form with many TALENTED ARTISTS. I defy any rap hater to make just one rap song that anyone would want to listen to. And if you think heavy metal is an art form you know nothing about music---most of the songs use 3 chords max. It is truly sad however that whenever you see an awards show these days, you know the black artist that performs is simply going to grab a mic--never an instrument anymore...Oh, and Tupac was very talented, anyone who doesn't think so doesn't know anything about him--- he was just conflicted and got caught up in the "street cred" thing. A quick perusal of his songs shows he goes from sensitve and thought provoking to juvenile and simply commercial. So don't talk about things you don't know.

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Hey, you won´t see Heavy Metal on TV these days. Heavy Metal is no shitty three chords crap. What you see today on MTV is the so-called Nu Metal that has nothing to do with True Metal. Check out bands like Symphony X, Nocturnus, Atheist, Destruction, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Cacophony or Racer X and tell me then that Heavy Metal is no art. Like Rock N Roll, Heavy Metal is a part of the Blues evolution. Papa Roach or Linkin Park ain´t Metal bands, dude. They are casting bands, formed to entertain some "depressive" youngsters who think they should kill themselves because their family is fucked up.

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Originally Posted by sucka4chix

God and racism always bring out the best (and worst) in this forum.

(I):The simple truth is anti-Black racism will never die in America. You can speak about other peoples, but the disdain for the Black race is unique. Part of it deals with the way Blacks were brought over here, as animals seen as less than human, alot of it is fear, and admit it or not, alot of it is envy!
The greatest most liberal tree hugging white person will always have a line of demarcation (usually the OJ Simpson trial).

(II):The "PC" movement has done much to ruin America--- it is ok to get upset at something or someone and you don't have to accept all behavior in the name of tolerance. We don't have to be tolerant of everything---everything is not good.The gangsta/ghetto/thug movement in America should be denounced and dealt with; in that sense the white people are the real "pussies", shunning their resposibilities of putting down this domestic terrorism. The problem is white people don't differentiate types of black people (it was Chris Rock who said "love me some black people, hate me some niggas"). Black people don't like the ghetto thug with the blaring vulgar music,29" rims on 24" car that can't spell "job" anymore than anyone else.

(III):Although hip-hop in general sucks these days and I believe it is truly one of the causes of a generation of young black people being lost, taken as a whole and looked at over it's entire history, it is a viable art form with many TALENTED ARTISTS. I defy any rap hater to make just one rap song that anyone would want to listen to. And if you think heavy metal is an art form you know nothing about music---most of the songs use 3 chords max. It is truly sad however that whenever you see an awards show these days, you know the black artist that performs is simply going to grab a mic--never an instrument anymore...Oh, and Tupac was very talented, anyone who doesn't think so doesn't know anything about him--- he was just conflicted and got caught up in the "street cred" thing. A quick perusal of his songs shows he goes from sensitve and thought provoking to juvenile and simply commercial. So don't talk about things you don't know.

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Well you got me right out of the box with this post.......but you lost me just as quick.

Your opening thoughts.."The simple truth is anti-Black racism will never die in America." I agree with in totality. I think most of what you said after that is way off base. OK, the slave perspective has some truth to it...but the envy????I don't get that.

Part II is so off gthe wall I don't know where to begin. You really lost me with your so-called musical expertice. I don't have a problem with any music form...some have great examples, as well as some crap. When you claimed heavy metal..which I don't have at the top of my play list, has only 3 chords max...I knew you didn't know much about music. Consider that Rock, Country, and Blues are based around 3 chords in most cases, what does chord quantity have to do with whether a song is good or not. I've come across a few great songs with less than 3 chords,( in my 30 yrs. of playing music) and some cool songs based around 1 thumping note repeated over and over, and embellished with a good hook and lyrics. No one disputes the roots of The Blues is black slaves in America, yet I find it a very expressive music form, mostly 3 chords too!!

Perhaps You should take some of your own advice.." So don't talk about things you don't know."

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I know that it was used as good luck, kid. You're not educating anybody. I was just saying, if you ask 90% of the people in the world what a swastika stands for, theyre not gonna say "good luck" Hate to break it to you.

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Sadly true, unless the 90% you ask are Hindu or Asian.

That damned Hitler, ruined the Swastika and the Oliver Hardy mustache look for the rest of eternity. :smh

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Originally Posted by sucka4chix

God and racism always bring out the best (and worst) in this forum.

(I):The simple truth is anti-Black racism will never die in America. You can speak about other peoples, but the disdain for the Black race is unique. Part of it deals with the way Blacks were brought over here, as animals seen as less than human, alot of it is fear, and admit it or not, alot of it is envy!
The greatest most liberal tree hugging white person will always have a line of demarcation (usually the OJ Simpson trial).

(II):The "PC" movement has done much to ruin America--- it is ok to get upset at something or someone and you don't have to accept all behavior in the name of tolerance. We don't have to be tolerant of everything---everything is not good.The gangsta/ghetto/thug movement in America should be denounced and dealt with; in that sense the white people are the real "pussies", shunning their resposibilities of putting down this domestic terrorism. The problem is white people don't differentiate types of black people (it was Chris Rock who said "love me some black people, hate me some niggas"). Black people don't like the ghetto thug with the blaring vulgar music,29" rims on 24" car that can't spell "job" anymore than anyone else.

(III):Although hip-hop in general sucks these days and I believe it is truly one of the causes of a generation of young black people being lost, taken as a whole and looked at over it's entire history, it is a viable art form with many TALENTED ARTISTS. I defy any rap hater to make just one rap song that anyone would want to listen to. And if you think heavy metal is an art form you know nothing about music---most of the songs use 3 chords max. It is truly sad however that whenever you see an awards show these days, you know the black artist that performs is simply going to grab a mic--never an instrument anymore...Oh, and Tupac was very talented, anyone who doesn't think so doesn't know anything about him--- he was just conflicted and got caught up in the "street cred" thing. A quick perusal of his songs shows he goes from sensitve and thought provoking to juvenile and simply commercial. So don't talk about things you don't know.

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Well you got me right out of the box with this post.......but you lost me just as quick.

Your opening thoughts.."The simple truth is anti-Black racism will never die in America." I agree with in totality. I think most of what you said after that is way off base. OK, the slave perspective has some truth to it...but the envy????I don't get that.

Part II is so off gthe wall I don't know where to begin. You really lost me with your so-called musical expertice. I don't have a problem with any music form...some have great examples, as well as some crap. When you claimed heavy metal..which I don't have at the top of my play list, has only 3 chords max...I knew you didn't know much about music. Consider that Rock, Country, and Blues are based around 3 chords in most cases, what does chord quantity have to do with whether a song is good or not. I've come across a few great songs with less than 3 chords,( in my 30 yrs. of playing music) and some cool songs based around 1 thumping note repeated over and over, and embellished with a good hook and lyrics. No one disputes the roots of The Blues is black slaves in America, yet I find it a very expressive music form, mostly 3 chords too!!

Perhaps You should take some of your own advice.." So don't talk about things you don't know."

Double post.

Damn! Don't you just hate that? :oops: