Occupy Wall Street protest

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Originally Posted by russtafa

i thought most of the countries in that region want to drive the jews into the sea as goal .if someone told me that i would not want to be negotiating with them lol

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If someone broke into my house or stole my land I have every right to do as I choose to them.

Facts

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Originally Posted by Heather Moorland

Stavros, No Anne Frank was not on a vacation to poland and the nazis did send a lot of people to consentration camp. Including other nazis who was so unlucky as to loose the internal powerstruggle.

But remember that Pellestinians dont just blow them selves up for the fun of it. They do because sombody stole their land and deny them a future. Those who stole their land happen to be a wacho religious cult who think that their god gave the land to them. Nazis or no nazis.

The worst thing is that the jews (or Israelis if you like) abuse those 6 million dead of WWII so that nobody will dare question their own geneside on the palestinian people.

That I find distasfull.

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Baby...you got a jaded view of reality and history. You conveniently omit the part about the 3 wars the Arabs waged on Israel, and lost all 3. Israelis spilled blood in the deserting defeating the Arabs....why the fuck should they give it back? Did we give back Texas? lol You also have a selective sense of history. Google the Oslo accords when Arafat had it all....and walked away from the negoiations. Why? My guess is once a terrorist always a terrorist, and his political power could only be maintained through constant upheaval, and fueled by a hatred for Israel. He cared more about his personal power and ambitions than bargaining for a lasting peace. Peace would have meant a loss of his political power. If you're gonna tell a story baby....tell the whole story. You give credence to the notion that Europe is full of anti Semites.

Israel as we know it was created at the end of WWII in a bid to stabilize the middle east.

Let's talk realpolitik.

Theodor Herzl was not the first who wanted to separate out the Jews from other people. It is very much a part of the jewish religion to be seperate from any other. That attitude has been discribed as far back as there is accounts of the jewish religion. Roman, Greek, Egyptian records all describe the jews as wanting to keep them selves distinct from other people.
Try to read Jan Assmann; "Moses the Egyptian" and "Monotheism and the language of violence"

The jewish god and the Holocaust has a lot to do wuith the creation of Israel. With out the claims of the bible and it would not have been created in exactly that place. The holocaust very much acted as an excuse and the jews was soon to exploit "the bad concience" of the europeans.

Israel may be a political fact but so was the cruxiaderes in the medieval times and they eventually had to go.

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Originally Posted by Dino Velvet

If someone broke into my house or stole my land I have every right to do as I choose to them.

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that means stalemate

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Baby...you got a jaded view of reality and history. ...

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Look here honny I dont write about rigth and wrong here, good or evil. I let the jews, muslims and christians do that. The belief in "good" and "evil" is the ultimate supersticion.
What I am talking about is the law of nature that we know of as "Action equals reaction." It is a law that is not only aplicable to rockets. It also guides peoples behaveour towarts oneanother. We can allso call it action and consequence. It works like this; When I step in your sand castle you become sad, start to cry. Then you get mad and try the best you can to step in my sandcastle. Then I get mad and step back into yours.
That is the way the world are and I am not talking ethics or how it should be.

Now you can claim that you dont want to give back Texas to Mexico (I soppose you didnt mean the indians) But that is only important aslong as your neuclear mesiles is in working order. The day the Mexican army is strong enough to take it back (possibly with the help of the chineese) it doesn't matter what you think.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Baby...you got a jaded view of reality and history. You conveniently omit the part about the 3 wars the Arabs waged on Israel, and lost all 3. Israelis spilled blood in the deserting defeating the Arabs....why the fuck should they give it back? Did we give back Texas? lol You also have a selective sense of history. Google the Oslo accords when Arafat had it all....and walked away from the negoiations. Why? My guess is once a terrorist always a terrorist, and his political power could only be maintained through constant upheaval, and fueled by a hatred for Israel. He cared more about his personal power and ambitions than bargaining for a lasting peace. Peace would have meant a loss of his political power. If you're gonna tell a story baby....tell the whole story. You give credence to the notion that Europe is full of anti Semites.

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Israel is not your ally, not your friend. Take that FOX News dick out of your mouth and read a book or something. Learn about your culture, your history, not some warmed over propaganda designed to support destroying your own country for murderous and stupid and immoral foreign wars fought on behalf of a paranoid undeclared nuclear power that has spent decades spying on and corrupting what is left of the legitimate US government.

I thought Jehovah, Jesus' Dad and Allah got together 1947 and flipped a coin for Palestine and Jehovah won the toss.

BTW the newest GOP plan is to line the southern border with trampoline ball rebounders. Those Mexican mesiles (missiles?) are going right back to start.

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Originally Posted by Heather Moorland

The holocaust very much acted as an excuse and the jews was soon to exploit "the bad concience" of the europeans.

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So you are dismissing the genocidal, organised murder of 6,000,000 people as an "excuse"? That's obscene.