just your b/s,it hurts to see some one actually believes this scam. Go and buy some magic beans TrishQuote:
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just your b/s,it hurts to see some one actually believes this scam. Go and buy some magic beans TrishQuote:
Originally Posted by trish
There is no scam - just one hell of a lot of prejudice and bias that refuses to see the evidence. These are the concluding remarks from the 2010 Royal Society Report - very balanced and fair. But please don't read it 'cos it may change your views - and we wont want that, would we?Quote:
Originally Posted by russtafa
There is strong evidence that changes in greenhouse gas concentrations due to human activity are the dominant cause of the global warming that has taken place over the last half century. This warming trend is expected to continue as are changes in precipitation over the long term in many regions. Further and more rapid increases in sea level are likely which will have profound implications for coastal communities and ecosystems.
It is not possible to determine exactly how much the Earth will warm or exactly how the climate will change in the future, but careful estimates of potential changes and associated uncertainties have been made. Scientists continue to work to narrow these areas of uncertainty. Uncertainty can work both ways, since the changes and their impacts may be either smaller or larger than those projected.
Like many important decisions, policy choices about climate change have to be made in the absence of perfect knowledge. Even if the remaining uncertainties were substantially resolved, the wide variety of interests, cultures and beliefs in society would make consensus about such choices difficult to achieve. However, the potential impacts of climate change are sufficiently serious that important decisions will need to be made.
Climate science – including the substantial body of knowledge that is already well established, and the results of future research – is the essential basis for future climate projections and planning, and must be a vital component of public reasoning in this complex and challenging area.
More believers in this scam .The Australian government advisor Prof Tim Flannery for climate change with his mad claims is now held in mockery in Australia after some of his crazy claims
Tim Flannery held in mockery?! The guy you named Australian of the Year as recently as 2007? You mean this guy ->
Tim Flannery
Scientist, explorer, author
http://www.theweathermakers.org/about/
Tim Flannery is one of Australia’s leading thinkers and writers. An internationally acclaimed scientist, explorer and conservationist, Tim’s books include the definitive ecological histories of Australia (The Future Eaters) and North America (The Eternal Frontier). He has published more than 100 peer-reviewed papers.
As a field zoologist he has discovered and named more than thirty new species of mammals (including two tree-kangaroos) and at 34 he was awarded the Edgeworth David Medal for Outstanding Research. His pioneering work in New Guinea prompted Sir David Attenborough to put him in the league of the world’s great explorers and the writer Redmond O’Hanlon to remark, “He’s discovered more new species than Charles Darwin.”
He is a regular contributor to The New York Review of books and The Times Literary Supplement and has edited and introduced many historical works, including The Birth of Sydney, The Diaries of William Buckley and The Explorers. He received a Centenary of Federation Medal for his service to science and in 2002 he became the first environmentalist to deliver the Australia Day address to the nation.
Tim Flannery spent a year as professor of Australian studies at Harvard, where he taught in the Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology. In Australia he is a leading member of the Wentworth Group of Concerned Scientists, which reports independently to government on sustainability issues.
A familiar voice on ABC Radio, NPR and the BBC for more than a decade, he is also known to viewers of the Documentary Channel as writer-presenter on the series The Future Eaters (1998), Wild Australasia (2003), Islands in the Sky (1992) and Bushfire (1997). He was a principal consultant on the SBS series The Colony (2004) and is currently Australian consultant-presenter for the international series ATLAS.
Formerly director of the South Australian Museum, Tim is chairman of the South Australian Premier’s Science Council and Sustainability Roundtable; a director of the Australian Wildlife Conservancy; and the National Geographic Society’s representative in Australasia. In April 2005 he was honoured as Australian Humanist of the Year. He will take up a position at Sydney's Macquarie University mid 2007.
Tim Flannery was named Australian of the Year the day before Australia Day on 25th January 2007.
[[QUOTE]] I am curious why this thread keeps on running. Those who obdurately insist the world is flat will never be convinced otherwise. There is a handful of these holocaust deniers here so why are those who understand science continuing to argue with them. Their politics or their limited intelligence make them incapable of taking account of the huge weight of essentially irrefutable evidence that most scientists around the world now accept as fact. Will we let them on the last helicopter out of Saigon when the time comes? [[QUOTE]]
It is seemingly pointless. It's like beating a dead horse. It's like the endless debate over God. Well, that you can't really prove. But this climate change denial is striking to me. But there's been a massive propaganda campaign by the energy industry (and they even admit to it) to confuse the public about global warming.
Plus people don't trust politicians or corporations. So why should they trust scientists?
I mean, one can firmly believe there's no such thing as global warming. You can firmly believe anything. You can believe the moon is made of cheese.
It'd be like me saying on this thread: Come on, the moon is made of cheese.
And people can provide me with all this scientific evidence. And I'd say, I'm not buying it. I don't believe the scientists. I think it's a conspiracy. It's all a hoax. The moon is made of cheese and there's nothing anyone can say to dissuade me from my absolute belief.
Plus a lot of people on this site are here merely to pick fights, as it were. Or e-fights -- ha ha ha! Nothing more; nothing less.
It becomes a bit petty.
And it increasingly devolves into outright idiocy.
1) Tim Flannery's The Eternal Frontier is scholarship of the highest order, and a book that proves that the natural history of the American continent is as rich as the social history of Europe -next time you meet an American in Rome or Venice or Paris who says 'we don't have this history', refer them to Flannery.
2) Ben: why do you always latch on to the energy companies and the denial of global warming when it isn't true? In 1997 BP's CEO John Browne went to Stanford where he was the first oil boss to acknowledge the human role in climate change, and argue that companies should take 'precautionary measures' and although he was initially ridiculed, he was followed soon after by Shell and other oil independents, ok not by Exxon but that was Lee Raymond and the justifiable fear of litigation in the US. Real reductions of carbon emissions have taken place in refineries and on oil rigs (including Exxon's), which further undermines your feeble argument. At some point the politics kicks in which is more concerned with tax and regulatory regimes than it is about the science, its not the fact of climate change and advanced global warming that is at issue -the issue is settled- its how we deal with it, politically and socially.
:screwyyou fuck heads,because Tim Flannery has the word Prof in front of his name we low peasants are supposed to bow down to the fool.Prof Tim Flannery's predictions=2005 Flannery predicted Sydney's dams would be dry in as little as 2years=dam levels now over 73 percent full.2007 Flannery predicted Adelaide would run out of water by 2009= fuck did he get that wrong.2007 Tim Flannery predicted cities such as Brisbane would never again have dam -filling rains ,no not dam filling rains= floods!The man is the fucking village idiot and you dribbling fools think he is a great man.He is lucky he is not tarred and feathered here in Australia
Maybe you got this from the Sydney Morning Herald article
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/...-1226004644818
Which doesn't say Flannery said the dams would run dry, but that it was a possibility; and the records do show that the dams haven't been full since 1998, but the paper doesn't mention that or why the dams have been unable to reach maximum in the years since then so it is disingenuous of the paper to take today's figures without putting them in a broader historical context. The article also begins with the telling giveaway for its narrow-minded bluster:
This Alarmist of the Year is worth every bit of the $180,000 salary he'll get as part-time chairman of the Government's new Climate Commission.
His job is simple: to advise us that we really, truly have to accept, say, the new tax on carbon dioxide emissions that this Government threatens to impose.
Taxes, not science. As usual. Flannery is not famous for his predictions, and science is not exact in the way people want it to be. No doubt if someone wants to comb through the works of Einstein or Freeman Dyson or even Germaine Greer, they will find predictions that have been proven wrong over time.
You could always get a headache looking at the detailed graphs on the dams which are here, and where it says:
Sydney's overall dam level has gradually dropped since it was last full in 1998. This figure shows the data since November 2001 for overall dam levels.
You can see this in more detail in the year-by-year figure below. This figure shows the overall dam levels for the last few years. Each line represents how full the dams are for that year. From this figure we can see that the large drops in dam levels (since November 2001) came in the second half of 2002 and first half or 2004. The rest of the time the levels appear fairly steady. As no two lines meet each other (other than a brief period in early 2006), we can say that in every 365 day period since 2001, the dam levels have gone down.
http://www.iliveinsydney.com/water/damstats.php
what a load of shit Australia's dams are over flowing and Flannery is a wanker .Australian dams are having to open the dams or have major problems
:bangheadStavros you foreigners haven't a fucking clue ,the clown also predicted that a lot of houses on the coast of Sydney and the inner west would be lost due to a rise in water levels particularly along the Parramatta river and where does the cunt live?In a mansion on the coast ,go fucking figure aye lol