Eva Lin attacked in NYC on Thursday! Ladies be Aware of these 3 Men!!!

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Originally Posted by asic600

The reason people are mentioning race is the reason why when you move to a new neighborhood, you strongly consider race. If girls are providing services, as a matter of survival, they need to differentiate between doing outcalls to Brownsville and outcalls to Williamsburg.
NYC is about 25% black but 68% of the crimes and homicides are committed by blacks. People like to say it's "poverty" but look at anyone on the street - the newly immigrated asians are wearing "lame" clothing and sneakers and eating rice at home because they're paying for after school tutoring while the blacks are wearing bling and jordans at mcdonalds because they're primary concern is looking stylish. It's just different priorities leading to different outcomes and eventually different actions in life, generation after generation.

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....and this shit is praised here......I wonder what type of mod would allow this....LOL

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Originally Posted by uchetal

Bastards! I hope they catch and prosecute the cowards. I do not have the time share all that I would like about this horrible act. Eva, I hope you are well; my thoughts and prayers are with you. If the scum bags are trolling the HA boards then read this... YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME!

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Everyone is tuff on the interwebz...lol

These four assholes commited a cowardly act. I am pissed and I responded with emotion. Get these cowards one on one, they're not going to be so tough. Being this is the only vehicle for me to respond to the cowardly act, I said what I had to say. I can walk my talk doctor. Has nothing to do with being tough but everything to do with justice. Good ole frontier justice if you catch my drift. Have a nice day :)

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Originally Posted by TempestTS

Fuck those Assholes... And double fuck any slimebag lawyer who defends them... you know they are going to be lying through their teeth covering each others ass and trying to write their own version of events and why their prints are all over and trying to manipulate the system to get let off. Justice needs to be served.

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Hardly...when they're arrested LE will do the typical thing by offering one a reduced sentence (or even no sentence) to spill his guts, which he will more than likely do.

I'd love to hear them spin how they didn't know Eva was trans.

I am so freaking mad at the moments in the news report. People are blaming her for what happen to her. It is NEVER the victim's fault because a crime occurred against them.


Here are some of the comments. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...by-3-suspects/

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Ladies.....God stamped blacks with a warning label from head to toe......take heed or live to regret it forever (if you are not beaten to death or die from aids)

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or the fact shes a transsexual, never told him until he got there and things went cray, in that case i offer no sympathy ;)

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You can't listen to that stuff FRANKLIN.
It's the wackos and maladjusted who write that kind of filth anyway.

There's no way they didn't know Eva was trans. It's not like they bumped into her at the corner diner and she invited them back to her hotel room for a freebie.

They sought her out.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

You can't listen to that stuff FRANKLIN.
It's the wackos and maladjusted who write that kind of filth anyway.

There's no way they didn't know Eva was trans. It's not like they bumped into her at the corner diner and she invited them back to her hotel room for a freebie.

They sought her out.

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Agreed - skip the comments - just really nasty people in there.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Not to jack this thread, but pimps don't generally murder low earners.

A TS pimp can't go out and automatically replace an escort like Eva anyway.
I'd think at most he'd bitch about how little she was bringing in and deal with it.
I'm talking about the protection angle anyway.
In many cases a pimp acts as a referral. He knows the clientele and he would know who these guys were that attacked her before anyone in law enforcement and 'dealt' with it.

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No they just cave their face in and send them out the next day.
Let's not romanticize a man who preys on the weakness of woman.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

No they just cave their face in and send them out the next day.
Let's not romanticize a man who preys on the weakness of woman.

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I wasn't, just thinking out loud. I understand being independent for an escort has multiple benefits, however that usually means a girl is responsible for her own security and safety.

In a different setup, like a legal brothel for instance, being protected from clients would be less of an issue.


I still believe if you were pimping for model quality TS escorts, you really couldn't beat them down like a teenage runaway GG prostitute new to the big city from some fly over state.

Horrible to read , hope she recovers well.

2am Escorting? Thats also a reminder to self why I dont see people after 8-9pm unless I know them very well.... anything late is dangerous especially in a big city, its knobhead time.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

I wasn't, just thinking out loud. I understand being independent for an escort has multiple benefits, however that usually means a girl is responsible for her own security and safety.

In a different setup, like a legal brothel for instance, being protected from clients would be less of an issue.


I still believe if you were pimping for model quality TS escorts, you really couldn't beat them down like a teenage runaway GG prostitute new to the big city from some fly over state.

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there is no such thing as a pimp for high quality girls for several reasons:

a. a pimp purposely seeks out weak and broken woman because they are very easy to control.also allot of these woman have no where else to turn so they perceive that the pimp is their only resort.a high quality escort would be to independent of spirit and have to many resources at her disposal.
b. pimps are all about the high turn over when it comes to clients and money.they rather a girl see 20 men for 50-60 a pop instead of what a high quality escort would charge which is anywhere between 200-600.because of her high price there isnt a high turnover rate.she would see anywhere from 1 to 3 clients a day.that a big benefit of seeing a higher end girl because she wouldnt have a whole ton of men who ran through her.
c. high quality girls attract a certain degree of clientele.any where from a-list celebrities to powerful business men.to these men discretion is of the most importance and often require the girl to sign a confidentiality contract that i doubt would extend to their pimp lol

theres a reason why high quality gg call girls are either independent or work with agencies.

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Originally Posted by SammiValentine

Horrible to read , hope she recovers well.

2am Escorting? Thats also a reminder to self why I dont see people after 8-9pm unless I know them very well.... anything late is dangerous especially in a big city, its knobhead time.

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i dont see anyone after midnight and i tend to not entertain younger clients after sunset.also i never see anyone of an urban or "ghetto" background

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

i dont see anyone after midnight and i tend to not entertain younger clients after sunset.also i never see anyone of an urban or "ghetto" background

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Yes i tend not to see younger guys fullstop and I am wary of who I see based on accent etc. Can spot a "ghetto" or "scally" accent (as we say round here) from any part of the UK generally. Innit blud.

In London I also take "race" into consideration, not something I ever did initially or ever dreamed of doing but two very very dodgy moments that i got away with .... forced my hand.

Of course not every nutjob is from the lower rungs of the social ladder, some of the mot crazy fucks in the worlds history have been the most intelligent, but I think it narrows the odds a lot ;-)
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Originally Posted by SammiValentine

Yes i tend not to see younger guys fullstop and I am wary of who I see based on accent etc. Can spot a "ghetto" or "scally" accent (as we say round here) from any part of the UK generally. Innit blud.

In London I also take "race" into consideration, not something I ever did initially or ever dreamed of doing but two very very dodgy moments that i got away with .... forced my hand.

Of course not every nutjob is from the lower rungs of the social ladder, some of the mot crazy fucks in the worlds history have been the most intelligent, but I think it narrows the odds a lot ;-)
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and thats what screening is all about.you cant completely remove the risks but we sure as hell can limit the opportunities.
i wont get into racial screening for obvious reasons but i will say most girls do it and as a black woman i dont really get upset at the idea.in fact,i understand.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

there is no such thing as a pimp for high quality girls for several reasons:

a. a pimp purposely seeks out weak and broken woman because they are very easy to control.also allot of these woman have no where else to turn so they perceive that the pimp is their only resort.a high quality escort would be to independent of spirit and have to many resources at her disposal.
b. pimps are all about the high turn over when it comes to clients and money.they rather a girl see 20 men for 50-60 a pop instead of what a high quality escort would charge which is anywhere between 200-600.because of her high price there isnt a high turnover rate.she would see anywhere from 1 to 3 clients a day.that a big benefit of seeing a higher end girl because she wouldnt have a whole ton of men who ran through her.
c. high quality girls attract a certain degree of clientele.any where from a-list celebrities to powerful business men.to these men discretion is of the most importance and often require the girl to sign a confidentiality contract that i doubt would extend to their pimp lol

theres a reason why high quality gg call girls are either independent or work with agencies.

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Semantics.

A 'madam' is just another word for an upscale pimp.
Broker. Agent. Concept is the same.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Semantics.

A 'madam' is just another word for an upscale pimp.
Broker. Agent. Concept is the same.

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Sorry to butt in but a "madam" is generally an ex prostitute/escort herself so its quite a big diff to a "pimp", its not a simple case of a diff gender doing the "pimping".

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Originally Posted by SammiValentine

Sorry to butt in but a "madam" is generally an ex prostitute/escort herself so its quite a big diff to a "pimp", its not a simple case of a diff gender doing the "pimping".

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its really a lifestyle.i suggest those who are curious about pimping and pimp culture check out a documentary called "american pimping".
aslo an agency charges the girl a fee.a pimp demands all the girls money and "manages" it for her

a madams not an agency though, a madam runs a house, safety in numbers, brings cost down yadda yadda. being ex escorts themselves, apart from obviously making money they have girls interest and safety at heart.

What about a "maid" then - lots of working GGs use these? But it trims the profit margin.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

What about a "maid" then - lots of working GGs use these? But it trims the profit margin.

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A maid in a "brothel" is usually a working girl answering the phones on her day off, or even the madam does the phones herself..

dunno about other setups. i think they paid a flat rate and bonus on punters in so profit margins are relative, come on old bean this is business ;-)

LOL. The word 'pimp' has such bad PR.

Dennis Hof, owner of the Moonlite Bunny Ranch is every bit a pimp.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multim...a2_232237b.jpg

He recruits girls and for the various services he provides to his escorts, he gets a percentage of all their client fees.

The reason I call guys like Hof 'upscale' is because he treats his girls more like employees; he doesn't beat them, he doesn't encourage their drug habits. And if they don't earn he fires them.

But it's still pimping.

I don't want to go into a long convo about pimping, I was just expanding on the idea put forth by Westtheangelino that since the advent of backpage and craigslist, we now live in a post-pimp world for most escorts, which has given escorts more professional independence but may leave them more vulnerable to attacks like the one that happened to Eva.

I just thought it was an interesting premise to discuss.

But I also get it that any slight positive a girl might have from 'protection' by her pimp against psycho johns is outweighed by the host of negatives that come from having a street level pimp repping you.

If all pimps did the above then that is comparable to Madams, but as they dont... i still dont think it can be called one and the same.

I agree though that is how it can be done, and if legalised how it should be done for everyones benefit.

On the subject of what you would get from a pimp, the "security thing" .... I know a lot of well known GG escorts hire security for the day in london etc after some stabbings and other nasty shit years ago. Financially it probably works out the same.

everyone keeps referring to GG's. is that what we're shooting for here?

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Originally Posted by nysprod

Hardly...when they're arrested LE will do the typical thing by offering one a reduced sentence (or even no sentence) to spill his guts, which he will more than likely do.

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More than likely - criminals with a previous record know the game

your confidence and optimism in the legal system seems to exceed mine - I hope you are right and Im wrong in this case.

wow
just read the COMMENTS on this article..
the level of idiocy in this country is beyond human comprehension..

its nothing less than terrifying..

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

I am so freaking mad at the moments in the news report. People are blaming her for what happen to her. It is NEVER the victim's fault because a crime occurred against them.


Here are some of the comments. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...by-3-suspects/

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Originally Posted by TempestTS

Fuck those Assholes... And double fuck any slimebag lawyer who defends them... you know they are going to be lying through their teeth covering each others ass and trying to write their own version of events and why their prints are all over and trying to manipulate the system to get let off. Justice needs to be served.

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Probably try to be a bunch of sobby bitches on the stand trying to tug on heartstrings of the jury.

"Who cares, motherfucker? Go to prison and never see the sun again."

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Originally Posted by Dino Velvet

Probably try to be a bunch of sobby bitches on the stand trying to tug on heartstrings of the jury.

"Who cares, motherfucker? Go to prison and never see the sun again."

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And this is why I love me some DINO

Please don't believe everything you read in comment sections on the internet as refelecting the values or opinions of the individual posting. Trolls be trollin.

Eva has been positive on twitter and it is really encouraging. I keep checking back here expecting these guys to have been caught already!

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Originally Posted by TempestTS

And this is why I love me some DINO

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Right back atcha. Don't give me and all my sick imagination the keys to their cells. I'd make Uday and Qusay Hussein look like busy-body bleeding-heart social workers.

Cannibal Corpse - Meat Hook Sodomy - YouTube

Ain't but one game-the pimp game. Everyone is either a pimp or ho' to somebody. Ask Ice T, the original gangsta.

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Originally Posted by sucka4chix

Ain't but one game-the pimp game. Everyone is either a pimp or ho' to somebody. Ask Ice T, the original gangsta.

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Ice-T got pimped by Coco....

Coco tricked on some dude in Las Vegas ,brought him a car and everything..lol

Looks like one down... HT @transnewsdaily

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nypd_blotter/nypd_daily_blotter_LgezvSjQf7rBIPr7aXNYTJ

Yes!!!! Glad to see this. Three more to go

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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy

Looks like one down... HT @transnewsdaily

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nypd_blotter/nypd_daily_blotter_LgezvSjQf7rBIPr7aXNYTJ

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Great news.

Seeing as he was found with a gun on him, he's rolled over on the other three already, or he will do it as soon as he gets offered a deal.

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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy

Looks like one down... HT @transnewsdaily

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nypd_blotter/nypd_daily_blotter_LgezvSjQf7rBIPr7aXNYTJ

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Any recent updates?

The suspects obviously look like fine, upstanding members of society.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2013...w/popup/353643

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Originally Posted by dc_guy_75

The suspects obviously look like fine, upstanding members of society.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2013...w/popup/353643

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A shame they're still breathing. I'm hoping for some positive news. I hope she's better too and has had lots of support from the right people.

Scum like that hurt the reputation of all men. It would be best if they were euthanized but a 25-30 year sentence would do. Who knows what they will actually get though. Hope they are convicted of a bias crime on top of aggravated rape.Hopefully they die in jail. Scum.

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Originally Posted by Dino Velvet

Any recent updates?

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According to New York City's jail search, if I got the ages right, they have been all arrested.