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There's an easy way to explain this (and girls please correct me if I'm wrong):
Transwomen are born in the wrong body so at some point in their lives they start taking the right steps towards looking like a female. Now some tgirls, even though they feel like women, they've gotten used to their dicks (the dick has been there since they were born) so their desire of completely living like a girl and the fact that they've gotten used to having a dick and actually get pleasure from it meet half way and they decide they don't want to have SRS. They can enjoy their tool. Does that make them NOT transgendered or less girly? Nope. That just means they enjoy that part of the body and don't want to get surgery and risk having a vagina that can't give them pleasure.
Too hard?
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I cannot speak for the ladies but I do feel some ts still question themselves and just like any human sometimes still question their sexuality.... In my personal life I am a total girl and would expect to be treated as such...emotionally, physically, and sexually. However I do dominatrix work and I can see the power it gives for a moment and it can be a rush, I guess some girls just like it that much they incorporate it in their daily lives.
I respect them for knowing what they like. But after a while, what the hell is there to really talk about with them? How "hawt" some chick is? That's why I really can't hang out with lesbians. They think about women the same way men do. And I can't relate to that. I see women as my sisters. Not the people I want to have sex with.
I like MEN. Big, handsome guys who walk the fine line of being educated and smart, but who also have a bad boy side. No comic book geeks, no gangstas, no papis wearing cheap cologne. And NO GODDAMN CHICKS or hetero CDs with boobs calling themselves TS. lol :-P
I plan to have vaginoplasty and to leave this faggoty world of degenerates behind anyway. You're all a buncha perverts! lol :-)
you have to respect there choices to each there own,ive been known for being a transbian because i put it out there but the truth is i perfer men but i love my sisters in every shape or size we all have that x-factor in all of us and im not talking about our dicks lol.
Yeah but again, I totally respect them and ENCOURAGE THEM to enjoy their lives and have great sex. It doesn't matter to me what the hell they're into. I don't think I'm higher on the food chain or anything. It's just a difference that I learned to accept in my own way. I've had transbians act like they were friends, and as it turned out they were more concerned about having sex. That was a big disappointment, so I now shy away from them socially. My friends generally tend to be GGs, straight M2F TS, and gay guys. But that's not written in stone.
yes it is me...
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Evon Rose is wonderful, 21 years old.... but unfortunetely we can't get her photos from that website. I won't do printscreen, sorry.
Wish I could see this precious American a little closer....
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I can't even make it to the last page of this thread, its gotten so out of hand. Lets leave it at this, shall we?
If you are a guy; straight, gay, bi, tri, whatever, and you do not have any hint of even considering any type of transformation, in other words, you are who you are outside and inside, then shut the fuck up. We are all entitled to our opinions, but they are just that: opinions. Lets not sit here and pretend we know how other people "Should be" just because of how they look.
I for one have no clue as to how it must feel to be a guy physically, but inside know that I'm a girl. I cannot fathom that, and neither can any of you who come here and pass judgement. So stop it already. If you like these women, for whatever reason, then just enjoy it. don't try to justify your small piece of the pie by saying that if you have two helpings then you're a gay dude, but if you only have a bite you can hang on to your masculinity. Its just stupid, and ignorant, and juvenile. Grow up and accept it or don't. and if you don't, then get lost and go find another forum.
I have to say, I agree with Slingblade about this. I tend to find transbians a little unnerving, especially at trans bars/clubs.
Autumn Sandeen, anyone?
What gender you identify as doesn't necessarily determine how you have sex. If a lesbian woman fucks another girl with a strap on, should she just become a male since she doesn't like penetration? No. What you identify as and how you use your sexual organs have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Jeez, this thread is so fucking awful. It shows such distain for gay people to think that transsexuals transition in order to become straight. Did you ever think that a lot of people actually like being a woman sleeping with a woman or a man sleeping with a man?
And you know what? There is absolutely nothing wrong with trans women who like to top, but the majority of transbians I know are bottoms. As in they don't stick their dicks in the women they're sleeping with. I guess it's hard for some to believe, but not all sex involves a penis going into something. I for one, am attracted to women and also exclusively bottom. It's the fucking twenty-first century...we have this thing called a strapon.
Really? But most transbians I spoke to mentioned that they still do use their penises to penetrate and actually quite proudly proclaim that they are women with penises. * shrugs *
I have one friend who is 47 or something - he elected not to transition because he said he would make a fugly trans woman at that age and no one would want him.
Upon analyzing picture after picture of transbians versus straight trans women, I have come to notice that the straight trans women tend to look sexier and more fashionable than transbians - they tend to look similar to Autumn Sandeen. To be bluntly honest, men like SEXY. No hot man is going to want a fugly trans woman in her 50s/60s when he can have a natal woman with much less hassle and stigma. It is probably one reason transbians stay lesbian. Another reason is that since they were cultivated and raised as straight men, homophobia probably was a part of their ingrained teachings from society. So that homophobia still carried over with them through their transition.
Just my opinion.
Although I like men too, you are talking about me when you say those things. If you say that transbians like women because they're homophobic, then do you consider men who like pre-op trans women to be gay? I think that's pretty fucked up. You're clearly the one who is homophobic. I mean seriously, you think women are lesbians because they're ugly? I think it's sad how common that is with straight trans women who used to be gay men and now look down on the very men who are attracted to them because they still have a penis. Homophobia is a big problem with trans women :(
I truly love knowing that people like myself and others on this board (and around the world) literally 'unnerve' other people by just us being ourselves (just like Mister Rogers taught us) freaking wonderful! I get to fuck with someone's head with 0% effort. In a way, the victim does my trolling for me. Awesome!
(On behalf of Eva Cassini, Tiffany Starr, Abby Rose and myself - 4 'transbians' living under one roof - to everyone that spends more time thinking about who we fuck than we do... Know in your deepest heart of hearts, in your darkest dreams, that we are sincerely and severely delighted at your discomfort with our kind.)
I'm pretty sure the entire concept of lesbians completely blows the OPs mind also ~_~
"Omg, why would a woman want a woman? A woman that is "acting like a man" but not transitioning and actually wants to be a woman??? omgawd"
I am hardly homophobic. I totally love gay people!
Just saying that on the other forum where 50s-60s late transitioners dominate, they incessantly emphasize that they are lesbians over again and again and that they found men repulsive. They also turn their noses up at straight trans women who used to be gay men.
How do I label men who sleep with me? Well... I have to say, what kind of sexual acts they want to do with me is usually the deciding factor for me to determine whether they are bi, gay, or straight. But for the most part, I consider all men who like trans women to be straight.
I didn't mean any offense to you, Sophie.
Sophie... I was referring to the "50s and 60s late transitioners" like Autumn Sandeen who was a straight man prior to transition. If you posted on the forum that I talked about earlier, you would understand what I mean.
Oh, also.... just for the record, the GG lesbian community rejects transbians. There is a whole controversy over this on the Internet. Just do some Googling and you will see why "transbian" is such a difficult or uanccepatable concept for some people.
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Derp.
I Googled it, read up on the "controversy" yet somehow against all odds and LGBT rules & regulations my asshole still totally accepts tranny cock. My cock still totally accepts tranny throats and the entire spectrum of gender variance still feels like a bountiful playground of deviant wonders and delights. I'm terribly upset with myself. Why can't I just CONFORM? Why must I rebel? Hold on... I'm sitting on my girlfriend's cock all wrong... just a sec... Therrrrre we go! Was in there sideways.
ohh i dunno i always found lesbians have quite been intrigued with me. and i have fucked quite a few lesbians :)
it all comes to down to simply how people see you as . a girl with a cock or a guy playing dress up :)
There are a lot of late transitioners on crossdressers.com. Despite the forum name, it is an all-inclusive site for transwomen and transmen and any other gender permutation you can identify. Physically speaking, though, not all are attractive. Many are not, IMO. That sounds mean, but I am just being brutally honest for a minute. Like many admirers and part-timers, I'm fully accepting of everyone being who they want to be. But like you're saying, there's a generalized understanding about attractiveness and many people struggle with wanting to be attractive to the ones they themselves are attracted to.
That's hardly limited to the LBGTQ community.
If a genetic male identifies as female, but chooses not to transition or even to dress because he doesn't believe s/he'd be an attractive woman, she has to be allowed to make that choice without being chastised by LBGTQ militants.
what I think should be noted and not sure if this was covered but the thread is talking about separate issues... if your a top or transbian that is about your sexual identity. As for being TG That is about gender identity.
the way i like to look at it is this: sexual identity is who you want to fuck get fucked by etc,.. gender identity is who you see in the mirror- despite what you actually see in the mirror.
And that goes for every person on the planet.. and other planets too. ;)
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