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Men willing to carry on a serious relationship with an prostitute do NOT exist, except for desperate souls, lying pimps and other losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ts CinthyaNY
prostitute is such an ugly word, it almost sounds like its meant as a derrogatory term wen people say it here. I think pros stand on street corners and escorts are much classier. And there are cases of males able to accept the fact that it is just a job, and there are some guys that are even more sexually excited by the thought that their girl is being hoe'd out. I do agree that the majority are probably using the girl, or just desperate for love, but it is not a fact to ALL
Hey, ever heard of Charles Bukowski? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
Semantics. A Mercedes is "pre-owned", never "used"...Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
I personally thought "streetwalkers" stand on streetcorners...
Nonetheless, let's not fool ourselves, prostitution is what it is, whether we personally prefer the term or not.
I didn't say that losers don't exist. As for a guy getting turned on by a "girl being hoe'd out"... that is just weird and reflects extreme emotional immaturity, even misogynism, on his part.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
There is also a subjective aspect to what constitutes a creep or loser. A magic man in one woman's eyes might be a 90 year old guy in a wheelchair, or a even Ted Bundy character, and some women fall in love with prisoners.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
If I have a daughter some day I sure hope she grows up and marries a winner like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coroner
Yes, "prostitution" and the other "P" words are ugly, but it is what it is.
You have never seen girls break down and cry as when they have been arrested for hoeing and see the word in print and be called the same in court.
"Escorting" and "working" do sound nicer, and perhaps let some sleep better at night, but again, is is what it is.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
In my life outside of HA, (is there such a thing as life beyond HA?) I hang out occasionally with a group of straight hobbyists and GG escorts. Several of the girls have BF's or husbands who are NOT pimps but who definitely appreciate the high incomes their spouses bring into the family coffers. I wouldn't call any of them "desperate souls." They feel they are empowering their women to pursue an occupation that provides their families with a high income and quality of life they would not otherwise enjoy.
But these are very high end ladies so it's not the same thing. There is a BIG difference between a street walking prostitute and a courtesan.
Let's pose this question.
If YOUR GF could earn $2-3-4-500,000 a year as a sex worker would you support her?
What if she just did it for a couple of years - which would enable you both to live well for the rest of your lives? Would it then be OK?
Food for thought,
TS Jamie :-)
PS - yes I know there aren't any TS's making 3-500K a year, but there are a few GG's doing it.
Well i would greatly appreciate it if u guys would hold back on the "P' word. U can just as easily type escort and its even less letters. It sounds like ur purposely being malicious
And there ARE guys willing to be with an escort or pornstar who are NOT losers or wierdos
Your job doesnt define ur relationship. Ive had guys hit me on eros and CL ads before saying they wanna be my man and i KNOW theyre full of sshit. i dont wanna be in a relationship with a guy who wants to be with an escort.. i wanna be with someone who wants to be with ME! What i do doesnt define who i am as a person, and if u can love ME, every relatioship has its obstacles and every person has baggage.
And one more thing, lets not forget how huge the swinger industry is.... all these people are making their marriages and relationships work, NOT IN SPITE of being promiscuous, but BECAUSE OF IT!
the losers n wierdos are the ones who pay for itQuote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
thats not true at ALL! There are people who understand the price of discretion! Dealing with a professional as oppose to cheating on their girl with family membbers or friends! Guys who know that they can offer no more than what it is, and would rather be with a professional whos not gonna fall in love, not gonna chase him down, key his car and make his life miserable. Guys who are too busy in their life that they cant afford to spend time running game on a girl in order to get the goodies. Sure some guys are just ugly, but i have seen some veryyyy HOTT clients who if i met at a bar, i would have jumped on. When money isnt involved, feelings USUALLY are! Some guys just dont wanna deal with the dramaQuote:
Originally Posted by LilWyte
I would call those guys leeches. Or parasites.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
I bet they appreciate living like fat cats as their wives prostitute themselves to strangers for money with all the risk that entails.
Dispicable lazy men.
Is this comedy? Empowering them? Ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
Yeah, Elliot Spitzer's prostitutes were reputedly high end but look at the crap they put up with catering to the fetish choker. It is not a respectable "profession", and if the girls truly respected themselves, they would another safer, legal profession that required the use of their brains. Oh yeah, you have to have a brain to be a good conversationalist, right. That is really what the losers are looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
If she was earning $2 or $3 or $4 a year she would obviously need additional support from some source, but if she is making $500,000 and she decides to keep a guy around, then he is serving as a psychological salve for her feelings of guilt and inadequacy, even as he feeds off of her.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
Somethings matter more than money. That is what many prostitutes eventually loses sight of.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
I agree with Ruby - when I was active I met a lot of very nice men. There are some very nice men here on HA too who don't mind helping out a girl a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilWyte
It's mostly the younger boys who don't have much experience (or money) who want free love.
IMHO,
TS Jamie :-)
Do you seriously hold swingers up as models for how to have a successful marriage?Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
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cheatin on their girl with family members???? damn thats some west virginia shitQuote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
yea cuz paying for sex is totally the norm :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
You want a relationship with someone who wants to be with you even though you have sex with other men for money. Okay. All I'm saying is that the existence of successful guys who not creeps and who would accept a woman involved in such an occupation is dubious.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
If the word prostitute becomes forbidden because if ruffles one person's feathers that is silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
there u go with the P word again i dont wana get hostile but ur being disrespectful. i asked very kindly that u not use the P word.
Ur saying that its impossible for a guy to wanna be in a relationship with an escort and im just trying to open up ur mind to the possibility.. no scratch that... fact that u are wrong! Because there ARE escorts in functional healthy relationships and i have seen it!
I don't agree that discussing a topic on an internet forum means I'm hanging out with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
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lol lilwyte is mine i will cut u lol
I'm not being disrespectful just because you don't like a commonly accepted word to describe what "escorts" do. If a girl is charged with "prostitution" and it made the papers, would she tell the reporter that "i dont wana get hostile but ur being disrespectful. i asked very kindly that u not use the P word." It would be absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
I have seen ghosts.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
ur very arrogant. put aside the fact that we are talkin on a forum because when i asked u respectfully not to use the word prostitute its because i can tell the manner in which u were using it was intended to sting. Now im asking again as a person who is having a RESPECTFUL debate with another person, we can agree to disagree and thats fine. but its not necessary to mud sling, and im telling u that i feel disrespected when u use the word prostitue. Now u dont have to listen to me, but were not in a court and im not talking to a lawyer. im asking you to be respectful of the fact that i feel offended with your use of the word. And should u choose not to, then i know for a fact that ALL u r trying to do here, is like u said earlier, ruffle feathers.Quote:
Originally Posted by phobun
Rubes Hun dont worry with Phobun. He is what we LOVE to call assholes, A TROLL...He disgraces my favorite food at that. PHO...Rubes take yer ass get in bet sleep and dont listen to his douchebagness :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
isnt phobun that dude that got rejected by an escort
are you kidding me? no wonder he is mad. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LilWyte
And just so we're CLEAR! Because it seems u dont know the difference between a prostitute and an escort.
A prostitute trades sex for money
A escort accepts a donation for time and companionship. Sex is never a guarantee
Granted a escort will ALSO have sex with their clients lots of the time, but this site is filed with pornstars and escorts and im sure that im not the only one who takes the term prostitute offensive
Its equal to calling a black person nigger
A spanish person a spick
a guy who posts on hungangels a fag....
u get the point
You did not ask respectfully. You demanded, then insinuated that you might get hostile. That's not exactly a mature, or effective, means of getting your way. I don't mean to make you angry but I think it is important not to lose your cool and act petulant just because someone does something you don't like.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
To get back to the subject of this thread, that of a T-girlfriend, in my very humble opinion, I don't think trading sex for money is a healthy and viable long term option and so I don't think that there are many guys sincerely interested in women that pursue such work. You have a good head on your shoulders and I think you are limiting your potential by not aspiring to greater things in life. You have seen the darker side of the city I'm sure, but with a good heart and brain, you could really make a big difference in peoples' lives!
im not gonna get into the many reasons y transgirls escort because i'll be here forever, but life in the so called "real word" is not as easy for trans women as people like to think. Nor is it as profitable as the sex industry. Most of us girls are hot BECAUSE we escort! There is such a high demand for trannies and surgeries dont come cheap. I would never want to be in a relationship with someone who isn't bothered by my work. But im trying to open up ur mind to the fact that there are guys out there who are willling to accept it, and are not losers. Like i said earlier EVERY relationship takes work.
Say for example u meet a girl in a laundromat and u go on a few dates and things get more intimate. u 2 become close after a while and u REALLY like her and she REALLY likes u. And then she breaks the news that she is in the sex industry. She tels u her reasons for doing so, be it paying college, working on her transition or whatever. Now maybe YOU would choose not to pursue a relationship because in ur mind its doomed to fail. You're probably the jealous type or u know u couldnt handle it or whatever, but u really like her. I know lots of guys in that situation who would say hey i dont like what u do and most would say hell no at first, and shy away wind up missing the girl and feel that they will never find another woman like her. So they choose to pursue the relationship because they dont want to think about "What if's?" Theres so many diff scenario's.
I know one girl whos in a happy relationship with a school teacher. HE LOVES this girl, paid for her implants, nose job, trachea shave. Shes not using him, and he worked REALLY hard to get her her surgeries and she loves him very much and shes totally happy. they've been together like 5 yrs already. He doesnt cheat, she escorts from time to time. Heres the kicker, he is YOUNG, he is HOT and he is HUNG from what i hear. This gives me hope that MNAYBE there is someone out there for me
Well of course there is someone out there for you! Probably he's been walking the earth for as long as you have and then one day, bump, you'll meet each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
Obviously I have my biases, but I will try to keep in mind Atticus Finch's words: "don't judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes." And perhaps the path does not matter as much as the end effect. I do not mean to judge you or diminish you, and I am sorry you were upset tonight. I remember a post I think it was you made a while back about your mom. Like I said, I think you have a big heart. My guess is that the future holds big things for you and that you'll put some of your many life experiences to use by making the world a better place...
:) OMG did i win??? lol just kidding. Thanx honey. I do expect big things for my future. I can feel it. I feel better now that youve opened ur mind a little bit
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE-Highlander.Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
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Originally Posted by phobun
Bitch . i am he gf and i never think shitty the same u thinks right now . actually i am good than u for sure Dumbass...