My Little Pony and a young Flammer

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Originally Posted by trish

Pretty close to my initial reaction. Great picture btw. I like the pink pony.

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Originally Posted by Odelay

When you think about it, this argument is very similar to the one where women who dress seductively are just begging to be raped. Those women should have known better, and what the hell were their parents thinking?

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My argument with the kid is about time and place. Whether life is fair or not is another discussion. That being said I think it was parental malpractice to allow the young boy to go to school with a "My Little Pony" backpack.

It is unfair to the kid, but both Mom and son should have known no good would come of such a backpack, and were hence dumbasses for allowing the kid to go to school like this. I think I also pointed out in the original post the Mom and son must not be too bright to do this.

I'm sure by the age of 8 or 9, I would have been smart enough (even if I had been a My Little Pony fan) not to wear the paraphernalia to school. If the kid is not smart enough to know this then the Mother should have been. At nine years old don't make life harder than it needs to be. I don't know enough about the family but it seems this kid is lacking a positive male role model.

I think I stated in my original post that I thought the bullying of the kid was uncalled for, but it was entirely predictable.

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

My argument with the kid is about time and place. Whether life is fair or not is another discussion. That being said I think it was parental malpractice to allow the young boy to go to school with a "My Little Pony" backpack.

It is unfair to the kid, but both Mom and son should have known no good would come of such a backpack, and were hence dumbasses for allowing the kid to go to school like this. I think I also pointed out in the original post the Mom and son must not be too bright to do this.

I'm sure by the age of 8 or 9, I would have been smart enough (even if I had been a My Little Pony fan) not to wear the paraphernalia to school. If the kid is not smart enough to know this then the Mother should have been. At nine years old don't make life harder than it needs to be. I don't know enough about the family but it seems this kid is lacking a positive male role model.

I think I stated in my original post that I thought the bullying of the kid was uncalled for, but it was entirely predictable.

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By that logic none of these ladies here would have dared to step out the front door.

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My argument with the kid is about time and place. Whether life is fair or not is another discussion. That being said I think it was parental malpractice to allow the young boy to go to school with a "My Little Pony" backpack.

It is unfair to the kid, but both Mom and son should have known no good would come of such a backpack, and were hence dumbasses for allowing the kid to go to school like this. I think I also pointed out in the original post the Mom and son must not be too bright to do this.

I'm sure by the age of 8 or 9, I would have been smart enough (even if I had been a My Little Pony fan) not to wear the paraphernalia to school. If the kid is not smart enough to know this then the Mother should have been. At nine years old don't make life harder than it needs to be. I don't know enough about the family but it seems this kid is lacking a positive male role model.

I think I stated in my original post that I thought the bullying of the kid was uncalled for, but it was entirely predictable.

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You've already made yourself clear. No need to repeat it. Just to be sure, let me make sure I've got it. It's the victim's fault. In your eyes, he's a stupid dumbass. You would have been way smarter. Oh, and his mother is irresponsible. The bully, on the other hand, was just doing what some kids predictably do. Your remedy: suppress the victim's freedom of self-expression. Wouldn't want to suppress the antisocial proclivities of the perpetrator though. That would be anti-Darwinian. That about covers it, right?

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Originally Posted by trish

You've already made yourself clear. No need to repeat it. Just to be sure, let me make sure I've got it. It's the victim's fault. In your eyes, he's a stupid dumbass. You would have been way smarter. Oh, and his mother is irresponsible. The bully, on the other hand, was just doing what some kids predictably do. Your remedy: suppress the victim's freedom of self-expression. Wouldn't want to suppress the antisocial proclivities of the perpetrator though. That would be anti-Darwinian. That about covers it, right?

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First of all, if the victim behaves in a stupid manner, then part of the consequences are the victim's fault. Life is hard, and it is a lot harder when you are stupid.

Secondly, I don't claim any special intelligence as a child, I think most kids by the age of 8 or 9 know very well what is appropriate and what is not appropriate to bring to school. As I stated in my earlier post, I think this kid is missing positive male role models in his life, and his Mom seems clueless.

Third, and this is just an aside, but some of the outbursts and anger control issues demonstrated by some of the posters on this thread, make me believe that the kid is not the only one who missed out on positive male role models. Please note this has little to do with gender dysphoria, but rather personality development (i.e., the impulse control has less to do with the transsexualism than getting adequate male guidance when growing up).

Finally, as far as blaming the victim, suppose for the sake of argument that I put on a Minstrel outfit and blackface and then paraded around Watts in the middle of the night. That's me having freedom of expression. What realistically would you think would happen to me? If I can pretty much guarantee that there will be negative consequences, how much of those negative consequences would be my fault? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

First of all, if the victim behaves in a stupid manner, then part of the consequences are the victim's fault. Life is hard, and it is a lot harder when you are stupid.

Secondly, I don't claim any special intelligence as a child, I think most kids by the age of 8 or 9 know very well what is appropriate and what is not appropriate to bring to school.

Third, and this is just an aside, but some of the outbursts and anger control issues demonstrated by some of the posters on this thread, make me believe that the kid is not the only one who missed out on positive me role models...

Finally, as far as blaming the victim, suppose for the sake of argument that I put on a Minstrel outfit and blackface and then paraded around Watts in the middle of the night. That's me having freedom of expression. What realistically would you think would happen to me? If I can pretty much guarantee that there will be negative consequences, how much of those negative consequences would be my fault? Just curious.

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Your first statement assumes the kid was doing something wrong; your second point furthers that thought and states he should have known better.

Your third statement is just an insult, and your fourth is insulting. Are you really going to equate the choice of a lunchbox with such racist symbols?

You did get one thing right when you said kids have poor impulse control. The part of the brain that controls that doesn't fully develop until the early to mid 20s. But that contradicts your second statement, so we should just move on.

Dude, have fun with your worldview, if you can; I'm miserable just reading this.

You have the chance to learn something here.

Sooo, basically arguing for the status quo? No other disposition could possibly be any more lazy, ineffective and safe. You must get absolutely nothing done. I mean, other than posting empty internet arguments... we all have hobbies.

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

My argument with the kid is about time and place. Whether life is fair or not is another discussion. That being said I think it was parental malpractice to allow the young boy to go to school with a "My Little Pony" backpack.

It is unfair to the kid, but both Mom and son should have known no good would come of such a backpack, and were hence dumbasses for allowing the kid to go to school like this. I think I also pointed out in the original post the Mom and son must not be too bright to do this.

I'm sure by the age of 8 or 9, I would have been smart enough (even if I had been a My Little Pony fan) not to wear the paraphernalia to school. If the kid is not smart enough to know this then the Mother should have been. At nine years old don't make life harder than it needs to be. I don't know enough about the family but it seems this kid is lacking a positive male role model.

I think I stated in my original post that I thought the bullying of the kid was uncalled for, but it was entirely predictable.

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Also, just saying... the cartoon this kid likes and is getting picked on over? Freakin' amazing. It's sincere, intelligent, quick witted and very, very sweet. The animation itself is comfort food for the eyes. There are very good reasons this simple children's television program has a reach that extends beyond the scope of its intended demographic.

The problem isn't that the little kid needs less "ponies" in his life, the problem is that the bully never had any.

Im not going to read this whole thread... but there is a whole MLP movement where str8 adult men go to Brony Conventions, whole documentary on Netflix. Watch it, its very good! Doesn't make them gay, and doesn't make this boy gay cuz he likes the MLP. No one to blame but the people hurting or bullying him. STUPID OF OP TO BLAME MOM! She is letting her son be himself... which more parents should do then we wouldn't have this bullying shit. I grew up not acting like a girl, or any of that... but I was still bullied but the minute I came out no one ever bullied me again. Imagine if I could of went to school the way I wanted to.

The OP has a thing for the whole 'strong male role model' argument. By his definition of what a strong male role model is, his dad must have failed super hardcore. After all, his kid is hanging out on a tranny porn forum, checkin' out all the pretty little cocks and starting his very own MLP threads.

My father was a strong male role model, and for a long time I had no female in my life... so to say it is how my father raised me, is how I live now is stupid. My friends were scared of my dad! LOL Again why is the OP even here?