I thought the lesson was: the death of your wife and children doesn't really matter, as long as your own health and wealth are restored in the end.
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I thought the lesson was: the death of your wife and children doesn't really matter, as long as your own health and wealth are restored in the end.
No one said. it didn't matter. But the reality of life is we all will have loved ones who die. How do we respond to life when this happens? I had a friend in real life, whose mother passed. He felt down, and started neglecting himself, and used it as an excuse to indulge in some things with negative consequences. He died within a three year peroid of his mother's death. I feel the greatest way to honor someone, is to take care of yourself, so that you can keep their memory alive, by direct testimony and by example. I know that he believed in God. He sang Gospel, for one thing. But he is no longer here to lift up his voice. If my friend had taken Job's lesson to heart, he could have done more good in this world. Many great things have been done in this world, by people as a tribute to lost loved ones. The Taj Mahal, is one example. How you handle life's difficulties, is not the same as a simple belief in God. The "Word of God" also teaches this.
Really? It didn't seem to matter much to God or Satan. Their lives were sacrificed merely to teach Satan a lesson. Color me heathen, but it's not honoring your wife and children to worship the dude who gave the go ahead to have them murdered on a bet, even if he is a god. I don't think Job has anything to do with maintaining your dignity and self respect in grief. Job continued to believe in the goodness of The Lord in spite of all the things The Lord allowed Satan to do to him. The lesson is either Job was gullible, or God did a good thing killing Job's children to win a bet with Satan.Quote:
No one said. It didn't matter
The Devil is MUCH closer to God than we are!! All that fuckin Adam had to do was stay away from God's tree and he couldn't even follow one stupid rule! Jesus didn't talk to the PEOPLE immediately before his Enlightenment, he talked to Satan!! The Devil likes everybody, but to be honest, the road to God is a one way street. Toward Him. If you don't make the effort to meet God, the deal is off.
Jesus, what would make Trish happy, betting a steak dinner on Job?
The Sunday School Religion might like you gullible, but the real God wants you dead. (Philosophically speaking)
I'm working on my Bible verse. The guy from the Gore sight is going to find it for me, I hope, he won't write back.
Am I saying God doesn't care if babies die in their crib and we kill people and watch porn? YES!!
Am I saying Jesus doesn't love us? He's dead, it's right their in the Book.
But if God can get the Devil to shut up for even two centuries we'll be much nicer to each other during his vacation.
This post is meant as a novelty item only. Any references to real people living or imagined is purely coincidental.
Actually we aren't told what the stakes of the bet were, leastwise I don't remember them. Perhaps nothing but the satisfaction of winning if you won. The lives of the wife and children weren't the stakes, they were just pieces in the game.Quote:
Jesus, what would make Trish happy, betting a steak dinner on Job?
The temptations of donkey dicks and horse cum
19"Yet she multiplied her harlotries, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the harlot in the land of Egypt. 20"She lusted after their paramours, whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys and whose issue is like the issue of horses. 21"Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom because of the breasts of your youth.
http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm
why is this even on this site?
The forum is called Politics and Religion.
No the story is not to teach Satan a lesson, but to teach mankind about the complexities of life. Apparently lots of people still don't understand. Later in the the story three friends go to job and discuss the reasons why the bad things happened to him. They say he must have sinned, to bring on these bad things, but he does not agree with them. A fourth person says that Job is accusing God to exonerate himself, but he is not correct either. In the end Job talks directly with God, and eventually he is blessed with double of what he had before. Satan is not not mentioned at all after the first part of the story, so the story is definitely not about teaching Satan a lesson. Even today, many people who follow the philosophy I do, believe like Job's three friends; that is we attract bad things to us, by our thoughts and actions. However the story of Job, say that life is deeper than that. For example, some people, even famous preachers, see natural disasters as God's curse for our sins. However, the lessons learned from natural disasters, has led to better safety precautions, so that mankind is more prosperous than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
In doing research on this story, I just found out that Job's wife did not die in the story! I thought she had. Also, Job is spoken of in the Koran, so elements of his story have endured through ages. Thanks for your repsponses.
Thanks for knocking Trish off her Heathen High Horse, Yoda. I would have, but I recently decided I need to bone up on my Ezekial.......