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I don't think there is a girl alive that, in her heart of hearts, doesn't want to be beautiful. You're not going to spend close to 30K (or more) to look "just plain & passable". You're spending all that money because you want to look beautiful.
I think some of the girls that say they just want to be passable already think they are beautiful so that part doesn't concern them as much. But I don't know of anyone who's only goal is to look "eh... so-so."
You are 100 percent correct- every girl wants to be pretty.
And you can be pretty and passable at the same time.
Small towns are freaky that way. I moved to a little town a few years ago that is only two blocks long and within a week I knew who was an alcoholic, who was a drug addict, who was getting divorced and/or sleeping with whom, and how many cats had gotten their jewels lopped off by the ASPCA.Quote:
Originally Posted by McRen
Similarly, I knew a failry stealthy gay family (We're talking gays, lesbians, and liberals, oh my!) that moved into a tiny town in very conservative NH, where Nacky Loeb and the Manchester Union Leader did all but recommend lynching of 'alternative lifestyle' people. Within a short time, though, neighbors told neighbors who told neighbors and they eventually painted their house with stereotypical gayness (Purple shutters and pride flags) and were embraced by the town as the local 'color'. I was actually pretty surprised to see how out they could be, and feeling quite safe about it. And knowing how politically active they are, I'm sure it's not uncommon to see TG people visiting the town on a regular basis, and they (The town) seem to have adjusted rather well (And this is a fair sized New England town with small 'suburbs').
Eventually, a small town is just going to make up who they want you to be, anyway. Might's well let them be moderately accurate about it.
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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
Co-sign. Agreed.
I come from a small town but I have spent a lot of my life in cities, mostly capitals. The anonymity that city life affords is a double-edged sword. You may be able to move more freely in a large city, but the day you are confronted the same anonymity means you have no protection. In a small town, at first (even if you are reaally really straight) you'll be a weirdo on probation, but soon you'll blend, and then you'll have a space that's allowed to you. Everyone knows who you are and what you are doing, but there is much less chance of casual abuse or violence. Generally speaking even the local head-cases leave you alone. I think it has something to do with the unidentified threat-- no-one who lives in a small town is one of those. They're all identified, right down to second and third cousins.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardedOne
I'm not saying you don't get violence in small towns, you do, but it's different. Between locals it's always because there's previous, sometimes going back decades, and I agree a small town can be a scary place for a weird-looking stranger. Scary, but not necessarily dangerous.
I won't go into detail here but the owner of a well-known business in the town I grew up was a notorious and very obvious gay, and surrounded himself with young gay men all his life. He was a pillar of civic respectability, as was his long-term partner. I know of several gays in the same town now and they are just...accepted. Nobody cares. And it's a pretty ordinary town with a history of fishing and manufacture, not a classy place at all.
I once took a friend who was gender indefinite, shall we say, to a pub in my home town. He (this was a gay man who was particularly non-straight in appearance and camp as fuck) insisted because the place was well known for music. I was frankly terrified at the prospect.....but nothing at all happened. People were looking, but the only comment came from the barman, who said something daft, and my friend turned it into a joke. The only thing I noticed was the six-foot circle of clear space around us, but even that disappeared as the place got busy. Maybe it was because I was there too, but I doubt it.
Course, this is Scotland, where men can walk down the street in kilts and big boots and look (and be) really, really hard. So maybe we're just a bit more relaxed about appearances. But I have experienced the same sort of thing in small towns in other countries too.
I think this is why writers who like working in character so often set stories in small towns.
Personally I think the ceiling is about 35,000 people. Above that and it gets too fragmented. I always think the worst sort of place is the medium-sized dump-- too big to be a small town, too small to be a real city, with no prospect of improvement.
well, from your Avatar Shalaya (and i'm not reading mind u) I can clock you. I dunno if it's your hairline or what but you give me cute chubby face pretty boy tee kinda like my girl LALA from www.TSlala.com
You ARE very pretty but I still see "it".
I don't think any girl (gg or tg) wants to be unattractive per se, but some don't want to stand out as pretty. My wife is a perfect example: all her life, she had hated drawing attention from men (like someone driving past her while she's out for a walk and obviously oogling her, without saying or doing anything untoward otherwise). She never, ever wears makeup--none. In 31 years I've never seen lipstick, gloss, eye shadow, foundation, or anything else touch her skin, nor does she own any. She hates heels and only wears "sensible" shoes. Her one concession to pride of appearance: she has dyed her hair her natural color because she can't stand being grey (and she started greying seriously in her mid-30s) because it makes her look old. But otherwise, she has no interest in being "pretty" and actually distains the attention that it draws (thing is, she is very pretty, naturally--not beautiful, but very cute, and does draw attention). I also have two sisters who very rarely wear any kind of makeup, and like my wife not only don't dress "to kill" but don't even own any outfits which could remotely be called "sexy."Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
Maybe it's different for TS?
I know a couple of post-op t-women that kinda look dowdy. They're not in deep stealth because quite a few people have known them through their change, but they don't advertise it. They both have regular jobs, one is in a LTR, not sure about the other......But honestly you wouldn't look twice. They just look like ordinary women in their thirties. They dress smart, not glam. They wear flat shoes, "sensible" clothes, and they make up very skilfully, you just don't notice they're wearing any. Very low key. You certainly wouldn't call either of them beautiful, and not even pretty-- more plain, really. They're both very nice and not unattractive or ugly or mannish or anything like that.....Just unremarkable. They have absolutely no trouble passing at all, and one of them told me if she ever does get made, it's by women, not men. Looking at different things, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecstatic
To all the beautiful TS ladies who believe that they are totally unclockable:
Dream on, because the awaking you will receive will probably be a rude one.
Amen :lol: