IMUS IMUS IMUS.........................

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Originally Posted by chefmike

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Originally Posted by Mac_Hine

Are far as Imus moving to satellite, why would they offer him anything? His ratings are in the toilet

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You don't know what you are talking about. From the nytimes:


Mr. Imus is one of the most popular radio hosts in the country, with millions of daily listeners on more than 70 stations around the country. The television simulcast of his show on MSNBC is surging in the ratings — “Imus in the Morning,” which the network simulcasts with the New York radio station WFAN, gained 100,000 viewers in the last year, for an average daily total of 358,000, according to Nielsen estimates.

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358,000 ?!?!? Do you know how little that is? That's like a .3 share, which is technically a zero in the ratings book.

As for his radio show, I'd have to look it up, but there's no way it's in the millions. Maybe that's his potential listener ship.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

You're still not comprehending. If Minorities can't make similar comments on the radio, why should guys like him be able to? The only reason it became an issue is because someone spoke on it. If no one spoke on it, it would've gone un noticed.

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I don't know what your referencing about minorities being censored, but Imus was suspended for 2 weeks.

And it should have gone unnoticed, it was a stupid joke. All this publicity is just making him more famous.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

You're still not comprehending. If Minorities can't make similar comments on the radio, why should guys like him be able to? The only reason it became an issue is because someone spoke on it. If no one spoke on it, it would've gone un noticed.

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I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly, do want him fined by the FCC? For saying nappy headed ho's?!?!

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Try the whole hip hop movement from 88-92. The whole movement which was rebelling against white supermacy was completely censored. Hip hop was vocal then and music was a form of way for making profit. Now that it's 10 fold of what it was before. They have a harder time censoring things. Such as Jadakiss's lyric of Bushing knocking down the towers. It was immediately censored and removed from the radio. But, when statements are made about the black community, it's all of a sudden, "Freedom of speech". It's all bullshit.

Like I said, listen to Paul Mooney's Race CD. It clearly explains it.

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So you want to fight censorship with more censorship?

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Try the whole hip hop movement from 88-92. The whole movement which was rebelling against white supermacy was completely censored. Hip hop was vocal then and music was a form of way for making profit. Now that it's 10 fold of what it was before. They have a harder time censoring things. Such as Jadakiss's lyric of Bushing knocking down the towers. It was immediately censored and removed from the radio. But, when statements are made about the black community, it's all of a sudden, "Freedom of speech". It's all bullshit.

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Knocking the towers and "nappy headed ho's" are two different things. I honestly don't think hiphop is censored and especially with "saying what they want on radio." And with regards to hiphop movement from 88-92 thats a totally different thing. The biggest censorship had to do with the 2 Live Crew show in Florida where they were accused of having a female member of their dance troope give an 8 year old a lap dance and Snoop's album Doggystyle supposedly telling people how to treat women- that album by the way was being boycotted by a black woman- and I think the correct term for that is "black on black". So I really don't think hiphop was censored. Anything else had to do with NWA and that's only because they were appearing on TV with guns. Can you imagine white people appearing on tv with guns saying their going to "clean up Oakland"?

So in effect, I don't agree with your points sir.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

Like I said, listen to Paul Mooney's Race CD. It clearly explains it.

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Is this something along the lines of David Allen Coe? Because I really don't have to listen to that to "get it." I can listen to anything by Kanye (whom by the way I like to now called misinformed) and get the opposite side of the spectrum.

I have several opinions on this matter which I'll keep in check for the moment, but why do some in here automatically feel that the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world take stands on cases such as this one for their own benefit or to pursue some political agenda? Talk about cynicism at work? Did it ever occur to any of their detractors here and elsewhere that the Jacksons, Sharptons, and other minority rights leaders, offer a voice for those who might not be heard otherwise? Would this be on the forefront of every national news cast if only a few members of the Rutgers team held a press conference to chastise Imus? I doubt it.
Yes, one can debate their gaffes (Hymietown,Tawna Brawley,etc), and thus hypocrisy, particularly given that Sharpton wants Imus fired, but frequently appears on the O'Reilly Factor -- the biggest closet bigot (O'Reilly) on the Fox News network. The bottom line is that the Jacksons and Sharptons serve a noble purpose in that they want those who say things like this to be held accountable, and that we as a civilized society move forwards and not backwards. Let's also not forget that Sharpton in particular has been consistent in this area given his frequent -- FREQUENT -- criticism of rap music and its mysogynistic lyrics. I can certainly understand why this gaffe by Imus would really upset a man such as Sharpton, and why he would want Imus's head on a platter. I personally think it's a bit on the extreme to ask for this man's job, but I can also understand why the Sharptons and Jacksons are asking for it. It's simply another case of the "man" trying to tell a minority what and what not to find offensive.

... If only the TS community had someone such as a Jackson or Sharpton to bring light to the issues and mistreatment to what some of the girls here experience on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me

I have several opinions on this matter which I'll keep in check for the moment, but why do some in here automatically feel that the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world take stands on cases such as this one for their own benefit or to pursue some political agenda? Talk about cynicism at work? Did it ever occur to any of their detractors here and elsewhere that the Jacksons, Sharptons, and other minority rights leaders, offer a voice for those who might not be heard otherwise? Would this be on the forefront of every national news cast if only a few members of the Rutgers team held a press conference to chastise Imus? I doubt it.
Yes, one can debate their gaffes (Hymietown,Tawna Brawley,etc), and thus hypocrisy, particularly given that Sharpton wants Imus fired, but frequently appears on the O'Reilly Factor -- the biggest closet bigot (O'Reilly) on the Fox News network. The bottom line is that the Jacksons and Sharptons serve a noble purpose in that they want those who say things like this to be held accountable, and that we as a civilized society move forwards and not backwards. Let's also not forget that Sharpton in particular has been consistent in this area given his frequent -- FREQUENT -- criticism of rap music and its mysogynistic lyrics. I can certainly understand why this gaffe by Imus would really upset a man such as Sharpton, and why he would want Imus's head on a platter. I personally think it's a bit on the extreme to ask for this man's job, but I can also understand why the Sharptons and Jacksons are asking for it. It's simply another case of the "man" trying to tell a minority what and what not to find offensive.

... If only the TS community had someone such as a Jackson or Sharpton to bring light to the issues and mistreatment to what some of the girls here experience on a daily basis.

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Of course it's for their own personal political agenda. They only come out of the woodwork when someone says something offensive about Blacks. Jackson may have some small ties to other minority groups, but Sharpton is a shameless self promoter.

You can't just shrug off the fact that Sharpton is probably an even bigger racist than Imus. He made some horrible remarks towards the Korean American community, not to mention the whole Tawna Brawley debacle. The fact that he is demanding an apology from Imus or any other racist is fucking ridiculous.

No one is telling you or me what you can and can't find offensive. If you don't like Imus, don't listen. Pretty simple.

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As for his radio show, I'd have to look it up, but there's no way it's in the millions.

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By all means, do look it up...

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Originally Posted by chefmike

By all means, do look it up...

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I tried, specific radio ratings are hard to find. On Wikipedia it says in 2005 he averaged 3.5 million per week, which is who knows how many per day, certainly not millions though. If you can find something other than a vague "millions of listeners", I'd love to see it.

But there are plenty of articles saying how his ratings are at an all time low, his ratings are slipping, things like that.