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I have admired Gabrielle (aka tsheather.com) since she first appeared on Lynn Conway's site. If I lived near Chicago I would have been out with her for dinner at least once. I could totally imagine taking her home to meet my parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by TsVanessa69
She really is my type. I imagine her to have a really down to earth sense of humour.
And forgive me for continuing my rant - but "ShiningStar" why come onto a porn and escort forum and insult people?
You call us "criminals" because we choose not to follow out-dated puritianical laws from centuries past in order to survive?
And you tell us we're not doing an honest days work and that we should get a job that pays very little? So we can enjoy your perceived self respect while living in the ghetto in poverty?
So do you own your home? Do you drive a late model car? Why can't we?
You essentially say we don't meet your moral standards? Men don't respect us - hell sweetie 3/4 don't respect ANYBODY.
Yeah, we're angry and bitter. Whether we like escortin or not, we'd like to not be put in jail and have what little we do have destroyed simply for trying to survive.
Then you call us a "trannies?" DUDE I'm NOT a "trannie" I'm a TRANSGENDERED WOMAN. Maybe you beter learn that outside of sex marketing, "trannies" don't like to be called trannies.
As for being lonely - I can't speak for anyone else but I got news for you. I have the best partner in the land, I don't need to know anybody else.
Most people don't want to get too close to transsexuals anyway. It doesn't matter how passable or not, if they know you are trans it really cuts down the party invitations. Potential partners sure aren't going to take their TS lover home to meet the family and get labled "gay," or whatever.
That goes for almost ANY TS - why do you think so many end up in sex work? Their families disown them, their friends leave, and most people think they are wierd at the least and "freaks" at worst. Nobody will hire them, and many people simply want to KILL us.
So Pleeeeze give me a break and get a clue before you insult people.
TS Jamie , grrr
tell you what... when you wake up, think realistically, and get off a porn board and open your eyes... ill start to beleive what you say... same goes for "ts jamie" or w/e... just bc YOU do something doesnt mean everyone does, just bc every escort you meet is a transexual does NOT mean every transexual is an escort. just bc you ASSUME every HOT girl is an escort does NOT make it true. just bc you beleive something doesnt make it real or factual... while it may be no secret that i escort here and there as a hobby for the last few months... im in no way dependant or doing it as a profession. i have 2 really good jobs and both pay more then double "$12 @ macys" and one of them happens to put me at macy's often... starting out as a makeup artist for MAC is $16.50... i make a lot more as a national artist and get to travel and go to cool places like movie sets, pro-photoshoots, video sets... etc etc. my best friend rachel is the counter manager for Yves St. Laurent @ Nordrstums where she makes $25+ and my other good friend lexi is a counter manager for Nars @ Neimans and she also makes $25+Quote:
Unisex wrote:
Some of them do work. But, they are minority as some of the ladies here pointed out. They are in the Health care market like you wouldn't believe and they in the Retail market for chain stores such as Macy's and Filenes and Bloomingdales. I see a few common ones making their way to work everyday and sometimes on site as well.
But, aesthetically, they aren't on the same scale that you see posted up in the forum. Would make sense if you're only making so much an hour, the womans transition can only move as fast your financial income does.
So, $12 an hour @ Macy's dealing with Irate customers. Or, $350 an hour where she can dominate some bottom boy?
People need think realistically.
do these look like non-passable 40yr old beasts to you? didnt think so. so take your ignorance to somewhere it might not get proven wrong.
*edit* see post below for pics
links didnt work hold on ill post them
mechelle is my hairdresser and owns her own salon w/ our friend beth who is also ts
my British literature professor this semester was transgendered.
to tsvanessa:
You're right, careers in ponrography and escorting are real careers. I've interviewed multiple escorts for a film project, it's perhaps one of the hardest and sometimes degrading, and most rewarding jobs.
Not that I'm considering the profession, mind you.
guys that only limit their "experience or knowledge" of trans women to a sex-industry based website dont deserve the right to form opinions, make false statements, make uniformed judgements against women they dont know especially when they dont have the balls to make their fantasies, reality. keep opening your mouths and ill keep helping you put your foot in it.
As I have stated in the past on this board, I have transgendered relatives and friends. I agree whole-heartedly with what you have said. Too many people only know about transgendered people from daytime talk shows and the sex industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
yeah and those are the idiots that make stupid claims from 0 to little experience w/ the subject and post them as facts and probably actually beleive their own idiot bsQuote:
Originally Posted by General Disarray
admittedly before my brother came out about having really been a woman all of his life and getting surgery I was one of those people too. Not that I ever watched Jerry Springer.... :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
Ok what hits me about all of this talk is how many of you treat being in the adult industry and having another career are totally contradictory, and mutually exclusive.
I myself have done both (escorting and seeking a PhD). God willing in two or three years I will be a PhD. For the time being I have to do what I have to do to make money. I am looking for a legal job now... the first months of summer are the best time for a college graduate to find a god job. If that fails I will still need money. What student loans won't cover I have to.
One of the people in that picture...eating lunch or dinner in Oak Park. Is Maria
Another person who has had a job as well as having been an escort.