Could the end of Net Neutrality end your access to Hung Angels?

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Originally Posted by buttslinger

ANYTHING done during this administration's term will be done to redistribute money from the middle and lower class to the rich donors. Trust that law like Newton trusted Gravity.

His white trash supporters will be among those hurt worst.

As I understand it this rule will just make it difficult and slow to get on google or gmail if your Provider has an interest with Microsoft, say. When they hook up cable to your house, it comes wide open. It costs them (you) money to block the good channels so you will pay them more. This is more of that.
I have most of my utilities automatically paid because they are so regulated, no way would they cheat me. But not Verizon, they will rob you blind if you don't keep an eye on them.

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And yet when the 2020 elections come around somehow everything he has done will be the Democrats fault and all of the ones that he has hurt will vote from him again, I find it funny as to how 'Christians" actually believe that Republicans are going to stop abortions. That will never happen simply because it is the major talking point that they have for that entire voting block. What are they going to do once that is gone. Tell the "Christians" that God wants them to make to rich richer??

It all boils down to if you want federal government control or free market control over businesses...

The American Republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money. - A. Fayser
It is not going to come back. The only way is forward and it is not democracy...

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Originally Posted by MrFanti

It all boils down to if you want federal government control or free market control over businesses...

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But we know where free market control ends up. More money in the pockets of business and less money in the pocket of the working class

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Originally Posted by luvzbig1s

But we know where free market control ends up. More money in the pockets of business and less money in the pocket of the working class

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Depends....look at what happened to deregulation of the US Airlines......It opened up more business opportunities and jobs. You sank or floated depending upon how business savvy you were...

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Originally Posted by buttslinger

ANYTHING done during this administration's term will be done to redistribute money from the middle and lower class to the rich donors. Trust that law like Newton trusted Gravity.

His white trash supporters will be among those hurt worst.

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This isn’t a personal attack, but...

Don’t kid yourself. Poverty and inequality expanded under Obama. I say that as a Stein supporter not a Trumper

https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02...ls-are-higher/

Keep calling his voters white trash. That’s how Hillary lost in 2016. Name calling the Deplorables only strengthens their resolve - as “victims” to smug Liberal elitists on either coast.

Trump’s success in pointing out how rich Liberals are screwing over Joe Sixpack and Sally Housecoat doesn’t even need to be true or accurate to be effective for the have nots looking for someone to blame for their plight

Condescension is the Liberal’s reaction and that’s how he wins. And one more thing. It wasn’t white trash who elected Trump it was married white women and people making over 100k a year.

can't this just be about fair priceing for internet service....
shouldn't a 24/7 gamer and Netflix hog pay a premium for signal speed versus the occasional websurffer checking their emails?
Yes, in a perfect world there should be more competition for consumers, but that ain't happening anytime soon since building a start-from-scratch wifi platform would take about $500 million dollars minimum. Elon Musk wants to go to the moon, not invest in the next Spectrum
Let's agree that net neutrality helps no one. put it to rest

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Originally Posted by flabbybody

can't this just be about fair priceing for internet service....
shouldn't a 24/7 gamer and Netflix hog pay a premium for signal speed versus the occasional websurffer checking their emails?
Yes, in a perfect world there should be more competition for consumers, but that ain't happening anytime soon since building a start-from-scratch wifi platform would take about $500 million dollars minimum. Elon Musk wants to go to the moon, not invest in the next Spectrum
Let's agree that net neutrality helps no one. put it to rest

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very true..indeed

instead of net neutrality ..they should give out some extra benefit plans :party:

The problem in my view with this issue is it gets thrown together with overall political beliefs for many people. Some people are praising Trump saying by pushing for this he is a man of his word others are pointing out they believe completely the opposite; but really rather than backing one political side overall just look at the issue on its own and anyone with a logical mind can see Steven's explanation of how things work makes the most sense.

As Steven much more eloquently put here in the UK we have some competition (it is actually hampered somewhat by one company being in control of most of the infrastructure repairs but we have a selection of providers to choose from in most areas regardless); currently European laws enforce neutrality and we also have access to varied and competitive pricing, speeds and data allowances. In the USA certain companies hold a monopoly over infrastructure and supply in major areas and the customer has no real choice between competing offerings of price, speed or data allowances but instead in many cases has to settle for what they can get with no real options to change supplier or negotiate on price. Currently quite clearly one of these is good and one is bad.

Ended neutrality in the USA under these conditions doesn't enable a more competitive market for the consumer it creates a more monopolised market for the supplier and in that circumstance all customers (regardless of in what way, for exactly what service or which websites you like to visit) will pay more. Don't be fooled into thinking ending neutrality is a progressive step towards a fairer market or access or whatever it isn't.

In simpler terms.. Image a world where everyone really likes muffins in fact they are addicted to them. Some people think that everyone should be allowed to bake muffins but some others think that if one person just happens to own all the ovens in their city then of course they should be the only person allowed to bake muffins; so we should change the law and let them charge whatever they want for muffins right? And if one person likes muffins more than another well they can make that person pay more for their muffins of course.. doesn't sound so bad really does it, it's progressive sort of and fair (I know just put up with my bad analogy)? Of course no one person is going to own all the ovens in a city anyhow, in fact I bet loads of people will invest in ovens because that's how free markets work.

OH... apparently not.. actually 2 people own all the ovens and have divided up where the ovens are really neatly so they don't get in each others' way and now muffins... well they cost a fucking fortune. And you know how some people can only eat stuff that is gluten free or sugar free or are allergic to other ingredients well you'll never believe this but because they want something extra or different their muffins cost even more. Didn't see that coming..

(for anyone who wants to point out "everyone owns an oven"; use your imagination - in muffin law world they don't they can't afford one as someone else bought them all. Much like in net-neutrality abolished world not everyone will be able to afford to get online either at all or fully. But hey in a country where some people think free at the point of service but tax payer funded state-provided health-care for seriously ill people is wrong nothing surprises me).