Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
"I have seen many times in the movies, where a person injured themselves, in an attemp to justify a self defense claim."
You have to be kidding.
I realize that this is mainly a TS porn related forum, but please don't base your arguments on the movies. A young boy is dead, and most of us are trying to get a sense of what happened by the available evidence. This is a serious matter and there may be race riots and more people killed because of this incident. The New Black Panther Party is advocating killing Zimmerman and other "crackers." This is the time Obama ought to speak up and tell the black community to allow the justice system to work. Race riots will only doom Obama's reelection chances. Obama needs to be the President who represents all Americans, not just Americans that look like him.
As I think can be seen from my previous posts that I think that is someone physically assaults you then you have the right to defend yourself. Contrary to the opinion of some on this board, the 1st Amendment allows one to question those who are act in a furtive manner (they don't have to respond to you, but neither do they have the right to punch you).
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
So Mild are you saying that the system is not biased????
I know personally not one but TWO dudes who were on DEATH ROW and were later exonerated because of police misconduct. That is not television. Dudes confessions were coerced and the overseeing officer (Jon Burge) got 4 years.
If we mistrust the system we have reason to.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Why are you suggesting there are going to be race riots??
When's the last time there was a genuine race riot in the USA??
You right wingers sure do have a rich fantasy life.lol
Southern negroes don't 'riot', 'cause Southern cops SHOOT TO KILL, unlike L.A.
This apparently isn't the first time a Black youth has died under suspicious circumstances in Sanford and there weren't any riots.
There won't be any this time either.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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mildcigar_2001
Contrary to the opinion of some on this board, the 1st Amendment allows one to question those who are act in a furtive manner (they don't have to respond to you, but neither do they have the right to punch you).
First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Where the fuck did you get the idea the 1st Amendment allows you John Q. Public to detain and question someone BREAKING NO LAWS as if you were law enforcement??:confused:
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the 1st Amendment allows one to question those who are act in a furtive manner (they don't have to respond to you, but neither do they have the right to punch you).
Unless, of course, the questioner, whose weaponry gives you reason to fear for your life, attempts to detain you...then you can invoke the stand-your-ground law and defend yourself...if you're still alive to invoke it...if you aren't you assailant will. That's one fucked up law.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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giovanni_hotel
First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Where the fuck did you get the idea the 1st Amendment allows you John Q. Public to detain and question someone BREAKING NO LAWS as if you were law enforcement??:confused:
lmaoooooo...ignorance always make me giggle...stupid people are always entertaining
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Where the fuck did you get the idea the 1st Amendment allows you John Q. Public to detain and question someone BREAKING NO LAWS as if you were law enforcement??:confused:
Prior to being attacked by Treyvon, there is no evidence that Zimmerman did anything other than talk to the kid. It appears that Treyvon attacked Zimmerman for daring to talk to him, and then Treyvon was then shot for his troubles. I get sick of people excusing Treyvon's attacking of Zimmerman (and there is witness statements that Zimmerman was on the ground being attack by Treyvon. If the New Black Panthers are any indication, some in the black community can only think of resulting to violence when questioned. I'm surprised that I've not been threatened with violence for daring to oppose the Al Sharpton narrative.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
If only Zimmerman had stayed in his ride (as he was instructed to), none of us are having this conversation.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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mildcigar_2001
Prior to being attacked by Treyvon, there is no evidence that Zimmerman did anything other than talk to the kid. It appears that Treyvon attacked Zimmerman for daring to talk to him, and then Treyvon was then shot for his troubles. I get sick of people excusing Treyvon's attacking of Zimmerman (and there is witness statements that Zimmerman was on the ground being attack by Treyvon. If the New Black Panthers are any indication, some in the black community can only think of resulting to violence when questioned. I'm surprised that I've not been threatened with violence for daring to oppose the Al Sharpton narrative.
Watch your back, Whitey!!!:geek:
Seriously, the 'bounty' put out on Zimmerman by TNBPP was to bring him to law enforcement as a fugitive, not to execute him. It was a publicity stunt.
If you follow a scared kid for blocks then get out of your car to 'confront' them, you don't have the right to KILL them afterwards if the kid swings on you, which we don't know actually happened.
Zimmerman didn't identify himself and I bet Trayvon was more afraid of him than the other way around.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
the 1st amendment has nothing to do with this case nor does it to interactions between[private individials