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Patong / Phuket
Where is a large place of bars called the Soi Andaman Queen, this place is also called Soi Crocodile and Soi Kathoey. Here are 2 beer bars were are ladyboys only, and they also sitting at the tables in the middle of the soi. This is a good meeting point of ladyboys and the most are very beautiful. There are also the occassional post-op mixed in here. The whole night the ladyboys walking around and looking for dates.
To those who know:
To what extent are the girls independent as opposed to being owned or indentured by the bars?
The Guess Bar has a bar fine ("House" fee) of 500B per girl. Beyond that you broker directly...
I had a memorable evening recently with a few GB girls (Beer is OMG stunning). When I walked in, the owner, Jay, was shooting pool with Charm. She was booted and leathered up. It was a glorious sight to behold! ;-)
See my earlier post / thread link.
keep em coming!!!
After the happy ending
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The last I did know is that Eye working in Obsession Bar and wearing Badge number 9Quote:
Originally Posted by paperplane
i spoke to ming twice about 10 days ago, and for the last 2 months or so every time i do speak to her, she is in Phuket at Patong Beach.Quote:
Originally Posted by skybuddha
Now for the last week, i get no answer from her, yet her phone rings and there appears to be no problem with that, yet she does not reply. which is odd because she always has, even if she chooses to reply at 5 in the morning ... :D
i do not know if i should worry, but at times i do. she has always been responsive.
when i do hear from her, i will post it here. and if she says ok, i will PM you her contact info.
she does keep an apartment in bkk, so maybe i will go over there and see if anyone has heard from her.
everyone is in on the game here, locals, govt, constabulary, families, everyone, just like any other country (but in varying degrees). as long as you do not rock the boat and get into anyones face, act polite, pay your tabs and not lead anyone on, it is the same as most anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
if you do cross someone, yes they could set you up, and that is common. so just do not cross someone who knows something they can screw you with. because that is what it is most of the time.
do NOTHING illegal in their presence. if they offer to show you where to get drugs or some other illicit thing, simply say no thanks. freelancers may be under age and that is another problem all together and a really big one, as it should be. bars no longer employ girls under 18 (99.99% of the time).
oh yeah, stay sober!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
earning here is not easy and it takes a lot of time to get established for a long haul. many guys are able to do a year or 2 or even 5, but then the bubble breaks. i have left a few times for long business trips in order to be able to come back and keep chipping away at it. i liken it to a roller coaster that you can not get off of, even if you try.
i will say that the last 2 years i seem to have been able to get it all together and i think i should be ok.
many choose to work 6 months or so abroad and then spend 6 months or so here. many folks who have made it, are not actually employed or getting their resources from here, but outside of Thailand. Stock markets, pensions, businesses in other countries that do not demand they be there. that sort of thing. working the internet for some is very good for living here and not worrying about money.
girls who work bars or street areas that are for Farangs are all independent, but they are still employees who must follow very strict rules and who suffer a lot of abuse from the owners and mamasans, but they are free to leave any time they choose as long as they do not owe anyone money. and even that is not really a problem to a girl who feels they will never be back in the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmecross2
but many, due to there in ability to keep a budget and live on what they have, do go to loan sharks and friends and then that presents all kinds of problems for them.
indentured and owned is more of an up-country local thing within Asian communities, or Thai sections of towns and cities and that is a whole different scene you would most probably not get involved in or ever ever see.
trafficking in women does exist and families do sell off their children, boys and girls. as they do in all poor locals where life is cheap and money is scarce. but 99.99% of what you see in this forum is just girls who are on the game to support themselves and their demanding parents. maybe they are here due to lack of education, maybe because there is no alternative job for them, but none the less, they are not indentured or owned to the degree you might think. again i will say, it is most often to help the family.
this is a very cursory answer to a very deep and complex issue that people have written entire books and studies about. i suggest you google this stuff to really get an answer.
where the 4 LB bars are in NAP.
free lancers are all over the streets running in all directions.