17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

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You make you're own bed. You probably should have stayed away from here after that.

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Blackmail is an act of extreme cowardice, perpetrated by the weakest among us. Happy to see that you are a chief defender of the practice.

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As one was threatened, that my interest in this site, would be exposed to my wife, children and employer, simply because someone did not like my opinion, I cannot agree that the policing has improved. I was amazed at the spinelessness of my fellow members from both the right and left who saw me being blackmailed, and stood by as mutes. Their courage was breathtaking.

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Have you read the forum rules? If Sean would rather consider banning you after a conversation where you feel wronged by blackmail, it's because you screwed up and aired an off-kilter opinion you probably should have kept private. If nothing else, you were still the catalyst for a slew of negative reactions that wouldn't have otherwise taken place if you knew how to properly conduct yourself and be discreet.

Cowardice has nothing to do with it. You can't expect people to step-to-the-plate and defend you when you've effectively ostracized a large portion of forum members and in-turn, pissed off the majority of regular posters. Comradery doesn't work like that. Blackmail isn't a desperate and cowardly action when it's the only leverage that can be manipulated to shut a person up, especially if that's the only intention.

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Have you read the forum rules? If Sean would rather consider banning you after a conversation where you feel wronged by blackmail, it's because you screwed up and aired an off-kilter opinion you probably should have kept private. If nothing else, you were still the catalyst for a slew of negative reactions that wouldn't have otherwise taken place if you knew how to properly conduct yourself and be discreet.

Cowardice has nothing to do with it. You can't expect people to step-to-the-plate and defend you when you've effectively ostracized a large portion of forum members and in-turn, pissed off the majority of regular posters. Comradery doesn't work like that. Blackmail isn't a desperate and cowardly action when it's the only leverage that can be manipulated to shut a person up, especially if that's the only intention.

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wrong on all points, please face towards the back of the classroom.

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Have you read the forum rules? If Sean would rather consider banning you after a conversation where you feel wronged by blackmail, it's because you screwed up and aired an off-kilter opinion you probably should have kept private. If nothing else, you were still the catalyst for a slew of negative reactions that wouldn't have otherwise taken place if you knew how to properly conduct yourself and be discreet.

Cowardice has nothing to do with it. You can't expect people to step-to-the-plate and defend you when you've effectively ostracized a large portion of forum members and in-turn, pissed off the majority of regular posters. Comradery doesn't work like that. Blackmail isn't a desperate and cowardly action when it's the only leverage that can be manipulated to shut a person up, especially if that's the only intention.

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you attempted to validate blackmail. Now have a go at child molestation.

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Originally Posted by fastingforlife

wrong on all points, please face towards the back of the classroom.

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with all due respect (yep I'm being sarcastic).......it's really you that should be stepping to the back hombre. Your inane ramblings about 'white' and 'hispanic' and Puerto Ricans who assault people for calling them white indicate you might be somewhat intellectually challenged.....or at very least socially challenged.

I would like to add a remark or two here.

I missed the threat from Sean to expose Fastingforlife's name and details. Though that is surely a uick way to get someone to toe the line, at the risk of being out of line with the owner and his way of running this place (which i generally find to my liking) i do think that this isn't the ideal path to pursue. The answer and solution is far simpler - a temporary or permanent ban. I think that if someone on here is being consistently offensive in a way that breaks the rules - with racist, sexist etc abuse, or is making threatening remarks and the sort of behaviour that has too often taken place in here in the past,then the simple course should be a ban. That is MY opinion.

I fervently believe in freedom of speech - even for complete idiots - within key constraints. And so, though i usually find FastingForLife's views ridiculous and almost always at odds with my own and call him out on them often, I do not think he should be censored or banned for having disagreeable or stupid views. I hate your views but will defend to the death your right to express them. That's the famous principle isn't it. But he and anyone else here should be told NOT to post remarks which are prejudiced or tend to fuel prejudice or constitute hate speech. So reasonable argument about law and order etc is fine. Ponting the figure at one ethnic, religious, political, social, sexual group and dealing in crude objectifying stereotypes is not.

By and large though I still think this place has benefited from tighter rules - such as the banning of HardJanira a couple of days ago. And of course in the end the owner of the site has the right to ban us for anything he likes. He owns it. If it were a newspaper and i wanted to offer an article at odds with that publications philosophy (of right or left) I would probably expect not to get published.

Of course blackmail wouldn't be the dire threat you apparently deem it to be if you weren't ashamed of your behavior. I'm just curious, what is it that would so shame you in front of your family: your wanking in front of the computer, your preference for chicks with dicks or the revelation of yor deeply ingrained racism? Imagine having to admit to your wife that you habituated a porn forum and then explain to her why you were kicked out! lol

Be assured I agree with Prospero on this one and find the use of blackmail something that ought to be avoided.

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Of course blackmail wouldn't be the dire threat you apparently deem it to be if you weren't ashamed of your behavior. I'm just curious, what is it that would so shame you in front of your family: your wanking in front of the computer, your preference for chicks with dicks or the revelation of yor deeply ingrained racism? Imagine having to admit to your wife that you habituated a porn forum and then explain to her why you were kicked out! lol

Be assured I agree with Prospero on this one and find the use of blackmail something that ought to be avoided.

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.......exactly so......just as the degenerates who roamed the night terrorizing defenseless people wore hoods to hide their shame since most 'white' people were ashamed of them.

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with all due respect (yep I'm being sarcastic).......it's really you that should be stepping to the back hombre. Your inane ramblings about 'white' and 'hispanic' and Puerto Ricans who assault people for calling them white indicate you might be somewhat intellectually challenged.....or at very least socially challenged.

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You have mo idea what you are even speaking about..twit.

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Of course blackmail wouldn't be the dire threat you apparently deem it to be if you weren't ashamed of your behavior. I'm just curious, what is it that would so shame you in front of your family: your wanking in front of the computer, your preference for chicks with dicks or the revelation of yor deeply ingrained racism? Imagine having to admit to your wife that you habituated a porn forum and then explain to her why you were kicked out! lol

Be assured I agree with Prospero on this one and find the use of blackmail something that ought to be avoided.

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I am not ashamed of any aspect of my behavior. The original threat, was to out my political and social views, which my wife knows well, and my two adult daughters find comical. My employer on the other hand, is a bastion of political correctness, probably finding each and every view I hold as non-conforming. That being said, once you out my views, you also out my interest in hungangels. My wife would not care, again my daughters would most likley find this comical, but my employer would not. In summary, I like my privacy and anonymity preserved. An act of blackmail is a vile and criminal act against my person, which nobody on this board, including the owner should tolerate.

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.......exactly so......just as the degenerates who roamed the night terrorizing defenseless people wore hoods to hide their shame since most 'white' people were ashamed of them.

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That is a stupid and meaningless comparison. If the owner of this board, required all of us to disclose our name and contact information, I would have absolutely no problem letting everyone on the board know how to find me. The problem is, based on one members belief that balckmail is a legitimate means to an end, who then can i trust? Especially when only a few, see blackmail as a crime, with a victim.

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with all due respect (yep I'm being sarcastic).......it's really you that should be stepping to the back hombre. Your inane ramblings about 'white' and 'hispanic' and Puerto Ricans who assault people for calling them white indicate you might be somewhat intellectually challenged.....or at very least socially challenged.

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You know nothing of my writings.

Fastingforlife - just because i spoke in favour of free speech doesn't mean you're not a hypocritical racist asshole - as it seems so is your wife.

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Blackmail is an act of extreme cowardice, perpetrated by the weakest among us. Happy to see that you are a chief defender of the practice.

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There was no blackmail dipshit. You were using threatening language and claiming you were untraceable, I showed you weren't as I found out your name, where you worked, you're religious wife's name and other shit - all from you're email address.
You're banned anyway.

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I am not ashamed of any aspect of my behavior. The original threat, was to out my political and social views, which my wife knows well, and my two adult daughters find comical...

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I'm with your daughters. :D

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Sure, but times change. Maybe blacks in the 50s, 60s, and 70s didn't have that choice and had to simply accept the label society wanted to hand them, but that hasn't been true since then. For christs sake, we've had a black president for the last four years. If black people wanted to gather together and get shit changed, why hasn't it happened? Fox news. lol.

Of course all Americans *should* be treated equally. Save for rich people who pay fewer taxes... and the impoverish who need social programs... and the handicapped... and "African-Americans", Native-Americans... and the Jews. You can't forget about them. I guess I should throw gay people into that mix, too.

The same people who want to preach equality usually fall into one of those "special categories" and if true equality were to occur, they'd be the first to complain. Until then, you'll still have a few nutjobs well within their right to free speech spew straight bigotry and ignorance and the rest of society just trying their damanedest to ignore the bull shit. Enjoy your college fund.

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What are you talking about? African-Americans are still denied jobs based on race, are often paid less for doing the same work, and are subject to abuse in the workplace. Women are paid less on average for performing the same work as men and empirical studies demonstrate this.

Jewish people are victims of hate crimes at a higher rate than any religious group. I've not only been threatened in person with violence for my background but had property of mine vandalized with swastikas. And for this what advantage am I asking for other than for it not to happen?

I don't think that minority groups that want equal treatment are really asking for preferential treatment. The reason there are laws and social programs that have been implemented is to ameliorate pre-existing problems, not to confer advantages on these groups.

Blackmail is the offer to abstain from carrying out a threat to reveal information in exchange for valuable consideration. There was no consideration such as money, property, or anything of value solicited. There was therefore no blackmail.

I'm not saying I agree with fastingforlife's threatened outing (if that's what was implied), but he did take a dizzying array of contradictory positions regarding the value of anonymity as well as the legitimacy of veiled threat-making. His racist comments in the thread where this all took place also were of the gutwrenching variety that makes one tempted to remove the element of anonymity and restore accountability.

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I don't think that minority groups that want equal treatment are really asking for preferential treatment. The reason there are laws and social programs that have been implemented is to ameliorate pre-existing problems, not to confer advantages on these groups.

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This right here. If there was TRUE equality, we wouldn't need the NAACP, affirmative action, the Voters Rights Act, etc, etc, etc...

Sean - good decision.

Proof of Zimmerman's lies;billy the kid/tom Laughlin
Proof of Zimmerman's lies

Tom Laughlin gives incontrovertible proof that Zimmerman lies when he says Trayvon beat his head on the cement for one full minute and that it was self defense. Also, instead of being overcharged, Zimmerman was undercharged for the murder of Trayvon, and that the Judge must recuse himself for his incredible bias towards protecting Zimmerman.

Proof of Zimmerman's lies - YouTube

your voice is as UNIQUE AS A FINGER PRINT.

voice identification NOW IS JUST LIKE FINGER PRINTS thats how terroist or potential terroist are caught now .

USING FORENSIC VOICE ANALYSIS.

*ZIMMERMAN LIED,TRAYVONS LAST WORDS WAS" HELP"!

*ZIMMERMAN SAID TRAYVONS LAST WORDS WAS "YOU GOT ME"



Expert Voice Analysists Say Screams are NOT zimmerman

Owen Forensic Services LLC they have newer technology thats used by the CIA AND OTHER GOVERMENT AGEN

Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence
Owen Forensic Services LLC they have newer technology thats used by the CIA AND OTHER GOVERMENT AGENCIES IN TERROIST CASES.its been used in murder trials successfully.

TRAYVON MARTIN ORIGINAL 911 CALL ENHANCED VERSION! (Screams) Last word (HELP) - YouTube

Zimmerman Screamed For Help, Not Trayvon Martin Says Eyewitness "John"
Zimmerman Screamed For Help, Not Trayvon Martin Says Eyewitness "John" - YouTube

Expert Voice Analysists Say 911 Screams are NOT From Zimmerman
Expert Voice Analysists Say 911 Screams are NOT From Zimmerman - YouTube

THE FBI does not have the state of the art voice analysis technology ZIMM LIED!

*two forensic voice identification experts

*"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence

*Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.

information leaked that the voice forensically tested.

Zimmerman lied claiming he was the one hollering for help a witness collaborated it then...


after information leaked that the voice forensically analyzed and it wasnt Zimmerman hollering for help the witness took back there story that it Zimmerman hollering for help Zimmerman caught in a lie cause he did not know the incident was being recorded on 911 tapes


* ZIMMERMAN IS A LIER
* ZIMMERMAN LIED ABOUT CRYING FOR HELP
** ZIMMERMAN LIED ABOUT CRYING FOR HELP HE DID NOT KNOW THE INCIDENT WAS BEING RECORDED

"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-2-experts-say

NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE argument
Detective faulted George Zimmerman for not avoiding confrontation with Trayvon Martin.



Neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman missed two opportunities to try to peacefully approach Trayvon Martin before he fatally shot the unarmed teenager, according to an investigator's report released Tuesday.

"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog in an effort to dispel each party's concern," investigator Chris Serino wrote in an arrest warrant affidavit.

The affidavit was filed more than two weeks after the shooting when the Sanford Police Department was being criticized for not having arrested Zimmerman. Serino's March 13 affidavit recommended Zimmerman be picked up for manslaughter, but a special prosecutor assigned to take over the case upped the charge to second-degree murder.

The documents released Tuesday are part of the public pre-trial records filed in the criminal case.

Zimmerman, 28, maintains he feared for his life and shot Martin in self-defense under Florida's "stand your ground law." He said he fired the fatal shot only after being ambushed and brutally attacked by the 17-year-old.

The deadly encounter occurred in a gated Sanford, Fla., neighborhood where Zimmerman lived and Martin was staying with a family friend. Zimmerman called 911 to report Martin as a suspicious person walking through the area. He told the operator Martin was "up to no good" and "has his hand in his waist band."

In the report released Tuesday, police say Zimmerman contradicted himself by saying that he was initially fearful of Martin but later got out of his vehicle and followed after the teen.

"His actions are inconsistent with those of a person who has stated he was in fear of another subject," Serino wrote.

The Orlando Sentinel reported Tuesday afternoon that Serino, Sanford's lead investigator on the case, has been granted a request to move from detective work to patrol duty.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...192523670.html

the objective physical evidence should out weigh the testimony of any witness.

zimmerman stated that he 1st followed trayvon martin in his vehicle then got out of his truck to pursue trayvon martin on foot.

zimmerman had no life or death injuries on his body.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/justic...ond/index.html

Honestly, I'm over all of this. I already know what the outcome will be. "The more things change, the more they stay the same..."

zimmermans lawyer is talking about a plea deal

I will post the article and video I seen yesterday

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ail-again?lite


Zimmerman attorney Admits credibility issue

CNN's Erin Burnett reports on the latest developments in the George Zimmerman case.

CNN video

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#...nd-hearing.cnn

BREAKING NEWS;THIS JUST IN ,THE POLICE CONFRONT ZIMMERMAN AND HE HAS NO ANSWER!

Quotation from Interview with Detective


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The biggest problem, according to (Detective) Serino, was Zimmerman’s insistence that Trayvon suddenly jumped him and tried to kill him without provocation.

“The kid has no violent tendencies that we can find. What made him snap?” Serino asked.

“He's not on PCP. He's not on anything. He’s on Skittles.”

Zimmerman could not answer.

“He was 17 years old, an athlete, probably going into aeronautics. A kid with a future, a kid with folks that care...not a goon,” the detective said.

“He does not fit the profile of what occurred.”

Zimmerman had no reaction.

Serino also questioned Zimmerman repeatedly about why he never identified himself to Trayvon as a neighborhood watchman, Which Zimmerman could not explain.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...nswer-teenager


Now that Zimmerman has been charged, I'm happy to simply await the outcome of the trial.

But a little notice to the baiters who come here to insinuate that Trayvon was some kind of a thug.


THIS DETECTIVE IS EXPLICITLY SAYING THAT TRAYVON DID NOT FIT THAT PROFILE.

It is also abundantly clear that Zimmerman did NOT politely identify himself as a concerned citizen / neighborhood watch "

George Zimmerman bail hearing ends, ruling pending

A bail hearing in Sanford, Fla. for George Zimmerman concluded Friday after a heated exchange in which prosecutors argued for denying bond and the defense called on the judge to reinstate the defendant's $150,000 bail, which was revoked in early June.
Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester was weighing the arguments and will issue his ruling by written order, a public information officer for the Seminole County court said. The spokesman did not offer the timing of that order.

Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the February shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, is seeking release on bail for the second time. His initial bail of $150,000 was revoked and he was rearrested on June 3, after prosecutors argued that Zimmerman, with the aid of his wife's testimony, had misled the court about their financial picture in the first bail hearing on April 20.
Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to the charge, and asserted that he acted in self-defense.
Earlier in the three-hour proceedings, Zimmerman's father, Robert John Zimmerman, took the stand briefly.
After the elder Zimmerman was sworn in, defense attorney Mark O'Mara played a witness 911 tape that captured the sounds of screaming and a shot being fired during the fatal encounter between Trayvon and Zimmerman.
Under questioning by O'Mara, the elder Zimmerman said he told state investigators that the voice of the man screaming "was absolutely George's."
Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda then questioned Robert Zimmerman, asking how his son could make those screaming noises if, as George Zimmerman told police, Martin was covering his nose and mouth.
Robert Zimmerman responded: "From the look of my son's injuries, Trayvon Martin's hands were not just on his nose and mouth."
The court heard testimony from firefighter Kevin O'Rourke, of the Sanford Fire Department, who was called to the scene after the shooting. O'Rourke, who said he attended to Zimmerman, answered questions about the severity of the shooter's injuries.
"I observed that he had blood on his face and the back of his head," O'Rourke said.
He said that Zimmerman's nose was "obviously deformed," agreeing with defense attorney Don West that the injury was consistent with a broken nose. But under questioning by prosecutor de la Rionda, O'Rourke said he didn't diagnose Zimmerman with a broken nose.
The court was also shown the last minutes of a video taken by Sanford police on Feb. 27 in which Zimmerman discusses wounds to his nose and head.
Zimmerman appeared at the hearing wearing a grey suit, after O'Mara had successfully argued that showing up in prison garb and shackles could damage his client's chances of getting a fair trial.
Martin's older brother Jahvaris Martin attended the hearing, along with Trayvon's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton. The family was escorted -- and sat with -- family attorney Benjamin Crump.
Following the money
At the start of the hearing, the first witness to testify, at the request of Zimmerman's defense attorney Mark O'Mara, was an accounting expert Adam MaGill, who detailed a series of money transfers conducted by the defendant's wife, using money contributed for his legal defense.
MaGill, who was called by the defense, said he was asked by O'Mara to look at records of money transfers from Zimmerman's PayPal account to the official legal defense fund later established by O'Mara.
Prosecutors charge that Zimmerman, and his wife Shellie misled the court about their finances his first bail hearing.
Shellie Zimmerman testified at that April 20 proceeding that she did not know how much money was in a PayPal account set up for contributions to her husband's legal defense.
In recorded telephone conversations from jail prior to that date, Zimmerman and his wife appear to discuss — in thinly disguised code — the amount of money in the account, and he instructs her to make a series of transfers to other accounts, the prosecution charges. (Read original report.)
Special Prosecutor Angela Corey used the recordings to persuade the judge to revoke the original bond for George Zimmerman. Shellie Zimmerman was arrested on June 12, charged with perjury and released on $1,000 bond.
She was not present at Friday's bond hearing for her husband.
O’Mara told NBC on Thursday that if Zimmerman is released on bond, he would go back into hiding for his own safety. The shooting death of Martin, an unarmed black teenager, in February has stirred an emotional national debate about race, gun rights and "stand your ground" laws like the one in Florida that use a broad definition of self-defense.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...g-pending?lite

Why is he even being considered for bail a second time?? IMO Zimmerman will be convicted, I just don't know to what degree. If the prosecution can convince a jury the voice yelling for 'help' on the 911 call is in fact Trayvon Martin, a 2nd degree murder conviction is almost guaranteed. I still believe there was a fight, however I think George and Trayvon separated before Zimmerman shot him.

George Zimmerman Bullied Former Colleague, Complaint Says

One of George Zimmerman's former colleagues at CarMax, where he worked in 2008, complained formally about the man who killed Florida teen Trayvon Martin, alleging serial hazing that lasted for months and included pranks and ethnic jokes.

When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.
"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]."

"He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

The employee, who is an Arab-American, worked part time at the used car retailership during 2008, and rose quickly to become one of the company's top salesmen, despite the hazing, he says.

"These are some of the bully activities I have been facing that led me to be concerned about my work environment," he wrote in the one page complaint. The complaint accused Zimmerman of pressuring him to split deals with him, of repeatedly "impersonating me in a terrorist character," and mocked him constantly to earn the laughs of fellow workers.

Read the Letter Accusing George Zimmerman of Bullying His Colleague
In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

He also accused Zimmerman of giving the new worker "wrong directions about how to perform my job, and then later made jokes to other employees and managers of how 'stupid' I was to listen."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

http://mto.mediatakeout.com/external/56943
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimm...ry?id=16658024

new prosecution evidence
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/georg...nting-16585187

Texas man gets 40 years in stand-your-ground case ,zimmerman like case
HOUSTON -- Retired Texas firefighter Raul Rodriguez, armed with a handgun and video camera, had claimed he was standing his ground and had no choice but to use deadly force when he fatally shot his unarmed neighbor after confronting him about a noisy party.

A jury decided otherwise Wednesday, sentencing Rodriguez to 40 years in prison for killing the neighbor, Kelly Danaher, a 36-year-old elementary school teacher. Prosecutors said they are hopeful the punishment will stop others from settling matters with violence and trying to use Texas' version of a stand-your-ground law as a defense.

"I think it sends a clear message that this was not a case of stand-your-ground," said prosecutor Kelli Johnson. "And I think from his behavior, his intent, the provocation ... shows that this had ... nothing to do with self-defense."

Rodriguez, who faced up to life in prison for the 2010 killing, will be eligible for parole in 20 years. Jurors deliberated about five hours Wednesday before reaching their verdict. The same jury convicted him of murder on June 13.

His reference to standing his ground was similar to the claim made by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who is citing Florida's stand-your-ground law in his defense in the fatal February shooting of an unarmed teenager, Trayvon Martin. Rodriguez's case, however, was decided under a different kind of self-defense doctrine.

During closing arguments earlier Wednesday in the trial's punishment phase, Johnson referenced Zimmerman but told jurors that case was different from what Rodriguez was convicted of doing.

In a 22-minute video he recorded that night, Rodriguez can be heard telling a police dispatcher "my life is in danger now" and "these people are going to go try and kill me." He then said, "I'm standing my ground here," and fatally shot Danaher and wounded the other two men.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/2...#storylink=cpy

This has pretty much become a one person crusade for you Natina. Hows about giving it a fucking break? Maybe you hadn't noticed in between your frantic copy and paste exercises, but Chicago is ablaze in gang violence to a level that would make Capone's Valentines Day Massacre look like play time, and here you are beating the same tired old drum. In American Jurisprudence after the arrest and bond hearing, the defense and prosecution prepare for trial. In the interim, there will be news reports that favor the defense, and others the prosecution....and why would anyone believe any of it after the media malpractice thus far? Why don't you save all your energy and bandwidth for when people are actually under oath?

Chill out. I appreciate the updates.

"... media malpractice thus far" declares Miss OMK... presumably decrying the admitted liberal bias of MSNBC,....and yet in other places praises the royal family of misrepresentation Fox News.

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Me too.
If you don't want to look, just "ignore"

Makes me wonder if OMK sent in some donations to Zimmerman. We already know that right wing nutcases are donating him money.

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"... media malpractice thus far" declares Miss OMK... presumably decrying the admitted liberal bias of MSNBC,....and yet in other places praises the royal family of misrepresentation Fox News.

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It's more than just the bias from those on the opinion shows, and it's absolutely fine for the 'opinion' side to have opinions. That's why people watch those hosts. The problem is when it's coming from the supposed 'news' part of the media.

NBC/MSNBC altered the tape of the 911 call to make it sound worse than it was. This case is compelling and newsworthy. There's no need to make anything up.

CNN did the 'we heard him say a slur', then said, 'um, actually, we listened again and there isn't any slur'.

ABC said 'the tape show no injury at all' and then changed it to 'well, um, it does actually show an injury. Maybe not a bad one, but yeah, it is an injury.'

Just dig for facts. Conduct interviews. Let all sides say their piece.

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Just dig for facts. Conduct interviews. Let all sides say their piece.

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That would be lovely ... but it doesn't make money :-(

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Me too.
If you don't want to look, just "ignore"

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I appreciate your avatar...and I'll never ignore it.
:cheers: