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http://lasvegas.backpage.com/Transse...-face/21231091 - 80 bucks
http://phoenix.backpage.com/Transsex...-lips/23157059 - 99 bucks
http://sanantonio.backpage.com/Trans...-made/15829013 - 80 bucks
http://memphis.backpage.com/Transsex...-tr-m/13418855 - 40 bucks
i could go on and on to every city in america.
i love it when you tell me my own fucking life and job for the past 15 years. Chief, you are a FAN, you are a FAN, you are a FAN. Please keep that in mind when you try to argue with me.
okay now i have to talk about economics. First of all, most girls in the biz live in large cities where the cost of living is higher. You can't exactly live in Bakersfield and work in LA. You can't live in Albany and work in NYC.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeisfiction
I would estimate that 95 percent of the girls in TS porn have not had any education past HS. I would estimate that they probably don't have the prior knowledge and/or guidance about checking accounts, savings accounts, how to budget, how to use a spreadsheet, how to save money for a rainy day, how to manage debt etc.
The sex industry isn't exactly a 9 to 5 where you get a paycheck every two weeks. Because that makes it much easier to budget effectively. But when your income is in cash that you never know when its coming, or camming where the swings in check margins can be huge, porn checks are few and far between and cant be counted in, well thats not easy to budget. Throw in travel expenses, wardrobe, and plastic surgery modifications and some girls have huge deficits they have to make up each month.
Those two factors together mean that making a decent dollar doesn't matter. What matters is how hard it is to budget and save. Also don't forget that the easiest money to blow and spend is cash money. It burns a hole in your pocket. Much harder to blow a check that is deposited into your account directly. Just ask any stripper.
There are girls that offer low prices, that is not majority of women. You're trying to tell me the majority of women on backpage rates are 50-100 dollars. No. There are women who have some low rates, but they are not the majority (including both GG and Ts). Streetwalkers are different and I never messed with them. From my experience the lowest rate I paid for the half was a 80 and the highest was 600 in general and that was about over the course 8 years of seeing escorts. I won't even go into 1 hour and multiples. But you know what it's late I should finish my project and go to bed, I have to be up early. I will let those that see escorts chime in on this, because you are saying the majority of escorts on backpage are 50-100 dollars an hour. Unless New York state is a higher price than the rest of the US I find it hard press to believe it.
I should state that was on my first meeting. Repeats, well that's a different story. I thought I better add that in.
What I think he's saying is that it is hard to charge $1000/hour if there are girls everywhere charging much much much less. I see plenty of escorts, GG and TS, I know my budget and only see girls with reviews and/or reliable links, these girls charge accordingly. Guys willing to bite the bullet and take one for the team are willing to go for the less expensive girls but the market is filled with guys like that. The market is not filled with guys willing to pay $1000/hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeisfiction
This is rather devolving from the original issue...
thank you bigkid69 for restating what lifeisfiction of course as usual missed and then tried to come over the top like a douche.
Thanks bigkid69. That makes a lot more sense. I would say the internet has changed escorting. It is easier for providers to reach a larger audience. Still a good provider that starts low will raise their price, because when they get wind of their good reviews they will charge more. I never alluded that 1k is what they are all charging. Escorting costs money, but no one wants to waste money on a bad experience. I just felt the price he was stating was too low because good providers were never 50-100 dollars a hour on average in New York State. Maybe it's different on the west coast. Any good provider will never stay cheap for long. They tend to move up in price.Quote:
Originally Posted by christianxxx
Yes competition affects prices. I think reviews give more balance.
And yes we are way off topic. We are in the danger zone.
Christian you know you love me. (I just think he has personal fondness for me).
We are off topic somewhat but this is how mature discussions evolve, isn't that the subject of an entire thread somewhere on how discussion has died here?? Here, I will bring it back:
Basically, like I said like 3 pages ago, I think you can make a comfortable living in porn, if done correctly, as CXXX has stated. And even if done correctly, I think it would be extremely difficult to scrape together $30K, that's a lot of cash!
Any non-speculative news on what the actually charges were?
most transgender are sex workers as a result of
Discrimination.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x309wwj
www.dailymotion.com/video/x
Trans Americans More Likely to Live in Poverty
REPORT: Trans Americans Four Times More Likely to Live in Poverty
Is there a financial penalty for being transgender in America? The extent of the answers have some serious implications, according to a groundbreaking new report.
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While positive trans visiblity is on the upswing, it's undeniable that real legal and economic disparities face U.S. trans citizens daily, especially those who are multiply marginalized by intersecting identities of race, gender, and class. The ongoing epidemic of fatal violence against trans women of color is one major indicator.
As these deaths go largely overlooked by mainstream media, the the average cisgender (nontrans) American may have difficulty visualizing the concrete harm — both big and small — that antitrans discrimination brings to the trans folks in their communities everyday. In order to help fill that gap with more much-needed information, a new report by the Movement Advancement Project and Center for American Progress, Paying an Unfair Price: The Financial Penalty for Being Transgender in America, provides unignorable data that directly links prejudiced attitudes towards trans people with the trans population's striking economic imbalance.
Providing analysis and clear visuals related to fiscal matters — an issue, MAP and CAP states, which resonates with all Americans — the report rephrases a question common among trans advocates, asking, "Is there a financial penalty for being trans in America?"
The answer is a resounding yes, and the reasons why are as important to understand as they are damning for the policymakers, health care providers, and educators currently upholding a system that renders trans people uniquely vulnerable to financial destitution, and its accompanying further ostracization and criminalization.
In one of its most striking findings, MAP and CAP report that trans people are nearly four times more likely to have a yearly household income below $10,000 (15 percent vs. 4 percent of the nontrans population). The numbers go up if a trans individual is a person of color, with Asian American/Pacific Islander and Latino trans folks nearly six times as likely to be living in poverty as their API or Latino cisgender counterparts.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/tra...y-live-poverty
The tangible symptoms of this disparity include commonly cited realities like difficulty finding a job or housing, difficulty obtaining correct legal identification documents, and facing medical expenses not covered by health insurance, as well as less-discussed issues like credit discrimination and unsafe schools leading to less sustainable employment.
These common problems result not only in short-term crises for trans citizens that can include unemployment and homelessness, but also long-term financial instability, the report notes. For instance, the inability to open a line of credit or obtain a job with enough income to fund a savings account means many trans people are left covering the basic necessities of food, rent, clothing, and health care paycheck-to-paycheck. That means they are are not working towards building a career or fulfilling their life's dreams, funding their retirement, or simply keeping a financial cushion between themselves and destitutuion should any unforeseen life crises, like car repairs or a child's illness, arise. All of these factors can contribute to a trans person's lowered quality of life, even in moments when they are not actively facing harassment.
So, what can be done to help fix the system? Paying an Unfair Price suggests a number of policy changes that can begin to be implemented now, including clear federal laws prohibiting employee discrimination, evicting or refusing to rent to tenants, and refusing loans based on gender identity; simpler policies for updating legal identification; cultural competency training for government, health, and educational professionals; and changes in school environments that curtail the bullying of trans students.
Read more about economic inequality facing trans Americans here, and find CAP and MAP's companion report, Understanding the Issues Facing Transgender Americans, here.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/tra...y-live-poverty
A friend of mine got 23 counts of pimping and pandering that has a manditory 5 year sentence for each count.
You can kill some one and get probation but not pimping/pander.
Human trafficing laws add more time to the charges..
In order for you to make the $1,000 golden ticket you have to have a particular look and fall into a particular high end elite agency that will charge for that. Those girls are not on social media because it makes no sense for them to talk to the average person or give out anything regarding their life. That is the 1% of the 1%. A handful and they do not shoot or cam. Why? They are in a different tier.
Even if you make big dollars there is a huge price tag attached to that in terms of workouts, surgeries, diets, etc. You live that lifestyle and you maintain your body and life according to that lifestyle. You can make six figures and spend six figures because there is always someone younger, prettier, bigger breasts, bigger ass, freakier knocking on the door trying to take your spot.
The only advantage is that you do not deal with the people in this forum because they are not worth it time-wise and time is money.
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Originally Posted by zerrrr
BEST "On-Point" Explanation I Have Ever Seen !!!!! .... YOU, My Friend...Win The Internet For The Day!
I fucking love getting insight about the porn world from Christian. His honesty, and knowledge of the culture always make for a good read.
why? it's pretty pertinent imho. and people are naturally curious, why a top-rated porn star in her genre (who has big tits, pretty face, nice body, big dick as the formula for success in it) needs money from her fans to bail her out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebottle
I'm only responding since I enjoy her work, and wanted to know how this has progressed.
But then considering there are others who are well to do of her stature in the industry, like Madison Hinton, Mia Isabella, and that there is a shitload of passive income to be made for top stars, it's just a natural curiosity.
I know it may piss people off, i don't care to be honest, again curiosity is normal!
not if they are smart, and have various income sources. I don't know why you're getting so offended or uptight. it's a valid question from a source of innocence/good faith to ask why she's asking this.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerrrr
i'm stupid for not knowing the ins and outs of the porn industry? are you a fount of all human knowledge then??Quote:
Originally Posted by christianxxx
Oblivious Man will be oblivious.....I guess. Let me shine a light for you: you are NOT stupid for not knowing the ins and outs of porn. You ARE stupid for not knowing the ins and outs of porn yet feel the need to inject your ignorance into a discussion and then further admit you are.....indeed.....ignorant thereby tying yourself up neatly into a ball of ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
what happened with this case anyways?
I am? I think the issue at hand here is you don't tolerate very opinions...piss off and grow up fool...haha..Quote:
Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream
You're stupid for reviving an argument that you started and lost months ago. All it serves is to remind us all once again of how ignorant you really are...:dead-1:Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
Particularly as this was your response to Christian's post the first time round.
Remember this...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
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Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Apparently, she has been allowed to travel inter state, so she tweeted a week ago, although I have no idea what that means in terms of the case..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikka
Lost? not really. but i don't get why you're offended why i don't know the ins and outs of the porn industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laphroaig
haha...why do you always follow me around to tell me how to post??? kind of odd for a 60 year old man, riht? i say what i want, get over it, or learn basic social skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laphroaig
You're free to say what you want, but remember others are free to call you on your bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by holzz
yep....only since you get offended who posts what...haha. i'm not bothered. i never would be, you're a grown man, handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapt53
depends...you insulted me. i was never raised to be nice to all. hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Lester316
the degeneration of this thread epitomizes what's wrong with the internet. What started as a forum to express support for JD has transmuted into a mud fight between a bunch of trolls. Get a life!
haha...
that's cool. but then i only made a point, apparently i'm not allowed to make them since the glaswegian kiss guy says i cannot.
Hi guys. I see so cost a lot of commotion.
I would love to tell you guys every single detail about this case, but I can't because I am bored Underoath.
I can say though. That I am innocent and the truth is going to come out sooner or later
I read in one of the comments posted here that the convictions that DA's get are like little gold stars for them.
That is the case here too.
I would love to tell you details but I must wait until this case is over.
The reason why I am asking for help it's not because I am poor. Or i don want to work. But because is too much to deal wit for 1 single person.
I didn't t ask to be in this mess. I am innocent but like I see in many of this comments here some people don't see it that way base in all the things they are wondering about my case.
I am happy that once I can actually speak to the world about this you guys will all see that I was innocent since the beginning and this witch-hunt shouldn't have gone this far
That's how I feel this is turning into a Witch Hunt against me...
How am I suppose to pay my bills, and now the court bills like lawyers, investigators and all , spending 45,000$ bond here and 2,000$ for fees, and fees and pre trials.
And did I mention the court didn't let me travel for the last 7 months.
I lI've in colorado. We don't shoot porn here. Webcam in is was it's been keeping me upfloat. But it's not easy to make at least 3000$ monthly camping.
It's possible. I have done it bur it's not easy. I ented up really hurt at the end of the day with all the hard toys.
I am asking for help because I cannot do it alone. I know I have friends other that can help we with a dollar or two. And if someone is going to use what's happening to me to trash the industry , and trash me. Let me be honest I don't care about the negative comments they're going to come no matter what.
My best defense to shut them all up at once is when I'm proven innocent and I publish my book about this abusive Witch Hunt
It means the judge dint found me guilty of charges and allowed me to travel, knowing I won't fly or escape. I am doing everything on my paRT so the law knows the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebottle
The DA'S just like a lot of haters here wish I was guilty but im not and the judges see the honesty in me.
This gives me hope because people that are in the situation close like mine don't get to travel
Wow...are you really Jessy? If so, cool! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tsjessy
I will post about my case as son as I know from my layer what I can and can't say about my case.
My crowdfunding campaign vane details about the case , because he was at the beginning when all of this started and I didn't know what was going on
But now I need to be cautious with what I say because it can be misinterpreted
Just like it did.
Human trafficking is not a misdemeanor it's a felony that can charge up to 50 years in jail.
In Colorado you can be guilty of human trafficking a minor even without knowing you're committing a crime.
I promise that everything that is being said about me is just like only you and God knows the truth
And for what I can see it now the law understand what truly happened because my charges are being dismissed
But it's going to take a long time especially with a tough DA'a that is worried more about her status rather than really going after the guilty ones.
I will keep updating more details as the case developes
So true. DAs, in general, are far more interested in career advancement than justice.
Yeah, they don't give a shit about "justice" just a notch on the proverbial belt. Without a good attorney, they really go for the throat. Then when you win, well you are broke and the DA just moves on. Fucked up system.....Quote:
Originally Posted by SydneyFarron
best of luck :) some pretty serious fucking charges, but i trust it will pull through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsjessy
BINGO. THEY WANT TO DESTROY ME LITTLE BY LITTLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by forestman20745
BUT I'm just happy that this is going to turn out to be more of a pain in the ass for them than it is for me....
I am innocent and I will prove it at any cost,
The shitty thing is that in yhe meantime the DA'S are going to milk me as much as I can.
But it'd the system we are in so gotta be strong and get out of this.
The reason I asked for help from my fans is because once this legal battle began they stop me from travelling. And that stoped me from working and making money and forced me to use all my life savings.
Yes I have a site Jessydubai.Com that produces money monthly but that only pays my apt, car, insurance, bills and it's not enough. And now with legal fees, pre trials, hiring lawyers, investigators, etc all that requires money. .... money I don't have because I couldn't travel for work. So I had to use all the money I had in my savings.
I figured if I asked my fans that's so much brag a bout loving me and wanting to do things for me. I figured wy not ask help to stay out of jail and prove my innocence.
I'm not asking for 100, 200, 10000$
I have my son so they could help me even with $1, $5, $10 what ever helped. And the money that I didn't use for my legal case it was going to be donated to an LGBT group here in denver.
But I see some people like u are more worried about the gossip that to actually try to help me.
Ir sad to see how empty and haRd some people's hearts are....
The s***** things that I get the toughest
Critics from people that don't know me
Thank you sooooooo much .... it sucks how the people use the Internet
I wish I could give you the details but I'm under oath and I can't talk about my case but
Are you ready my credit was happening at the beginning of the case so I didn't know what was going on
Now I Do.
I'm accused of nine different charges cued of pimping a minor.
I dint do anything but
the DA'S are out to get gold stars not fellons.
I went to testify to help the so called victim.
And the DA's turn it all around on me.
Now it's making me look like I'm this horrible person capable of doing such thing.
But I am fine with it because truth is going to come out in the end
I will clean my name, I will claim my fame and I will move on.
And the reason why you see me acting the way I'm acting on chaturbate is because I have to make $$$ to pay my bills, pay legal fees for something I dint do. But the police is working order to get a big price for my conviction not to show the truth.
You will not see me cry, you will not see me crumble to the floor and get angry at god.
Because I already did that at the beginning of this case.
But I also clean up my tears and picked up myself and now I'm thinking about the solution not the problem...
When is my solution was to ask myself for help. But so what I see in this case people are more worried about gossiping, about making up their own story about me or even troll other people and cause a fight.
I am happy that the people that just want to help me show it to me and he has helped me to push myself and get out of this mess
Meanwhile the people that say they are my fans what are only out just to help in this witch hunt I'm being a victim off.