What happens to tgirls when they get old(er)?

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Originally Posted by SarahG

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Are you serious? She's saying that escorts don't make 200 to 300/hr consistently. That's a lie, and it's pretty shady to boot.

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Certainly it would be easy for attractive girls in their prime to make that kind of money, or better. But like you said, it's all about the individual. An older lady who hasn't aged well isn't going to be able to bring in that kind of money as easily, and if she has nothing to fall back on (no retirement, no education, no other work experience) her options might not be that good.

Unless things are very different for trans escorting, with GG's I would not expect many girls to make 200-300/hr into their mid to late 50s onward, and if they do, I would be surprised if they were still booking as many sessions as they did a decade or two earlier. After all, isn't youthfulness one of the standards of beauty in our society?

I think that's the bigger issue here. It isn't "shade" to mention that people usually can't rely on escorting for being their ONLY source of employment, for their entire lives. Having a retirement fund, education, health insurance, some other work experience- that's not elitism, that's just reality. Basic things like health insurance and a retirement income are things that everyone needs. Anyone in escorting should care about them, just as anyone else who is self employed does.

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It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted.

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Sure, why do you think so many girls in our society become grumpy in their old age, or become attracted to feminism when previously they didn't care for it? The way I've heard older girls describe being old is, in our society, it's like becoming invisible. People don't take you as seriously, people are less likely to interact with you, less likely to care about you the way they used to. Throw in how girls live longer and usually end up living a decade or more alone after their husband dies (assuming he hadn't left her for a younger girl by that point anyway)- growing old sucks. It's also a fate for everyone who doesn't die along the way from something else (be it murder, suicide, aids, car accidents, or anything else life can throw at people). But some of this conversation is somewhat offtopic, I don't believe anyone on HA is old enough to be retired (??).

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Yeah, growing old sucks for EVERYONE. Not just transsexuals. She acts like because she's myopic about her gender identity, she can project it on every younger TS without a hitch.

Anyway, I work a real job AND escort. But I'll be damned if any escort needs her putting a cap on their earning potential. That's sour grapes bullshit, and she knows it. And I get my suggested donation EASILY, so now I guess I'm a liar? I don't dare "go there"? Wtf? Fuck this bitch.

Look at the ad below. My phones rings PLENTY. Escorting is like being an athlete or an artist or a musician. You have to maintain or you'll fade fast. So I still don't see where she gets off acting like she's gonna school anyone.

Get off your high horse, Peggy. And stop bullshitting.

So Nicole is arguin with yet another person :roll: Just GTFO ya troll and go argue with yourself somewhere as nobody gives a dead rats ass for ya Princess.

Awaiting your predictable lame ass response now :lol:

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

this topic has been nasty since the start,you people need to chill abit.this could have been a great topic but its ruined ,,,,,unreal

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Point well taken.

It is not my style to be needlessly argumentative or confrontational with
anyone, particularly another woman.

For my part in allowing this discussion to devolve into ad hominem
attacks, I apologize, on all other points, I emphatically and steadfastly
maintain my positions.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

Granny, not quite, and there's no shame for me that I like women
somewhat, but prefer men.

I have had my photo up before, however for the job that I'm in now that
would be problematic. And contrary to what you might have inferred I
don't work in human services, or with trans issues, and for a variety of
reasons I needed to go back to being more stealth, particularly on a porn
forum.

But don't try and imply a fugly, old brick image of me, which is far from
accurate, cause as I said, you really don't want to go there.

The prudent course of action is to stick to the topics at hand.

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Really now? Why don't I want to "go there"? You'll read me? Well please do, grandma. Bring all the bluffs you've got to the table, and we'll see where it takes you. lol

And "excuses, excuses" about your sacred anonymity. You've posted pics here before, so stop lying. I didn't call you a "fugly, old brick". Those are your words, not mine. ;) You're the one playing the tough old sexchange here. Again, "if you can't stand the heat', copy and paste something and kindly stfu. "The prudent course of action" was to not talk out of you ass in the first place, but I think it's a little too late.

But let's just say, I've seen your pics and that I think you've... 'passed your expiration date'. lol That shit about how the younger girls are bumping the older ones is a case of you "going there" first anyway. So don't get all insecure on me now. You've accidentally blurted out some shade, so get it off your chest. I'm not sweating you. ;)

Anyway, I thought you have better shit to do than "argue" with me? ;) lol

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Grandma?

I'm happy and proud to have made it to this age and point in life, and it is
my prayer that others do as well.

Your personal attacks on me are devoid of merit and accuracy, as we both
know what the truth is here. At this juncture you are clutching at straws in
a juvenile attempt to bolster your argument.

I took a moment and feel that it would be better for me to take the high
ground, and not say things that can not be unnsaid.

What I will say once again is that your allegations about me hold
absolutely no water, and the "past my expiration date" crack was
laughable, as has been a number of your other statements.

Nicole at your core, you have many good qualities. I have observed
you from the day that you welcomed me to this forum, and have
observed you on other forums. But you do seem to allow anger,
bitterness, and whatever else is troubling you to overwhelm you, you
truly do not seem to have a peaceful soul, or to be at peace with yourself.

Now before you tell me to go fuck myself with my pop psycholgy analysis,
I want you to honestly ask yourself "why are you always getting into
beefs", why do you find yourself getting banned from site after site.

Now even if I admit to being the sanctomonious, self-rightous, jealous, old
cunt that you say I am, assuredly there isn't something fucked up about
everyone you get into problems with.

Finally, as I mentioned, I feel that you are wrong about many of the
allegations that you have made about me, but you are correct about one
thing, I don't have the time to continue in this futile discussion with you,
as my time is precious and finite, being the old lady that I am.

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Originally Posted by peggygee

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Finally, as I mentioned, I feel that you are wrong about many of the
allegations that you have made about me, but you are correct about one
thing, I don't have the time to continue in this futile discussion with you,
as my time is precious and finite, being the old lady that I am.

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Honestly, I couldn't give a rat's ass how old you are or what you look like. You brought up age and fading looks, not me. I don't look at women with lust (OR petty jealousy), and I have no idea where you draw such lines. I'd assume I can't relate though. I'm more about friendship and/or sex. I'm into fucking all kinds of people, but romance with chicks is just not me. Furthermore, I have no emotional investment in whether or not people here on HA like or dislike me as a human being. But this fantasy that I'm "angry" is absurd. When people easily lose their composure, I do indeed find it somewhat entertaining. 8) When someone's having an immature meltdown, I do indeed enjoy watching them melt ALL THE WAY down. So what? It's funny. 8) People shouldn't discuss controversial topics if they can't bear to see them through to their logical conclusions. That's what kids or idiots do. "It's like that cuz I said so!" is a bullshit argument. But I digress.

Here's the deal. If you want to help the cause of M2F TS, open your mouth when you should. There are plenty of people here who need correcting. If you're philosophically on the same page as Phobun, you're no friend of any TS women. Period.

If you want to paint "shemale" sex work as a dead end, where all the girls are too immature or vain to prepare for their old age, you're no friend of this forum. That's what this forum is all about: shemale sexworkers. Why would come on here and try to undermine that? I don't think it's too far fetched to say that this industry and escorting has, in fact, helped countless TS women keep their heads above water. I'd even dare say that it's probably saved some of their lives.

Get your shit together, or just go, or don't. I don't actually care how you react. But I am done talking with you. You disappoint me.

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Originally Posted by The Judge

So Nicole is arguin with yet another person :roll: Just GTFO ya troll and go argue with yourself somewhere as nobody gives a dead rats ass for ya Princess.

Awaiting your predictable lame ass response now :lol:

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What's up with that gay "ya" shit? Are "ya" a retarded Swede?

Go fuck your GF "wendy", the gay crossdressing rock-climber, you HD reject. Thay's the only reason your cornholed ass even came here in the first place; to defend his honor. After that, tongue-kiss your BF, "Crimson Raider". Or is he too busy playing with his KISS action figures?

"Ya" big pussy.

[quote="Floyd R"]I've had duck a few times and it was always too oily for my liking. Do you have a special way of preparing duck?

[quote="peggygee"][quote="Nicole Dupre"][quote="Felicia Katt"]

Duck is a an oily or greasy dish, it is best bought in china town and heated in a pan and drained over paper towels before eating. If you cook it yourself, drain it well and is best to barbeque over a slow fire as it can easy burn, Duck is also a nice thing to roast, but keep it out of the fat, when it is crispy and dry it is best. Use a lot of seasoning as it does well with what ever salt and seasoning you like, Happy fucking, I mean ducking,

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

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Finally, as I mentioned, I feel that you are wrong about many of the
allegations that you have made about me, but you are correct about one
thing, I don't have the time to continue in this futile discussion with you,
as my time is precious and finite, being the old lady that I am.

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Honestly, I couldn't give a rat's ass how old you are or what you look like. You brought up age and fading looks, not me. I don't look at women with lust (OR petty jealousy), and I have no idea where you draw such lines. I'd assume I can't relate though. I'm more about friendship and/or sex. I'm into fucking all kinds of people, but romance with chicks is just not me. Furthermore, I have no emotional investment in whether or not people here on HA like or dislike me as a human being. But this fantasy that I'm "angry" is absurd. When people easily lose their composure, I do indeed find it somewhat entertaining. 8) When someone's having an immature meltdown, I do indeed enjoy watching them melt ALL THE WAY down. So what? It's funny. 8) People shouldn't discuss controversial topics if they can't bear to see them through to their logical conclusions. That's what kids or idiots do. "It's like that cuz I said so!" is a bullshit argument. But I digress.

Here's the deal. If you want to help the cause of M2F TS, open your mouth when you should. There are plenty of people here who need correcting. If you're philosophically on the same page as Phobun, you're no friend of any TS women. Period.

If you want to paint "shemale" sex work as a dead end, where all the girls are too immature or vain to prepare for their old age, you're no friend of this forum. That's what this forum is all about: shemale sexworkers. Why would come on here and try to undermine that? I don't think it's too far fetched to say that this industry and escorting has, in fact, helped countless TS women keep their heads above water. I'd even dare say that it's probably saved some of their lives.

Get your shit together, or just go, or don't. I don't actually care how you react. But I am done talking with you. You disappoint me.

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I'm not one of these cockhound syccophants but honestly you're brilliant. I have no idea why you choose to make money with your body when your mind is clearly your paycheck. Maybe you have something different planned...

[quote="tslvrnyc"][quote="Nicole Dupre"]

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Originally Posted by peggygee

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Honestly, I couldn't give a rat's ass how old you are or what you look like...

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wow==TALK ABOUT CAT FIGHTS! CUM ON GIRLS, WE ARE INTO LOV'EN NOT FIGHT'EN

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Originally Posted by tslvrnyc

I'm not one of these cockhound syccophants but honestly you're brilliant. I have no idea why you choose to make money with your body when your mind is clearly your paycheck. Maybe you have something different planned...

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Thank you. I actually do work a day job where thinking on your feet, and often outside of the box, is required. I make my own hours, and I have no problem compartmentalizing. Therefore, making a buck as an adult entertainer is not slowing me down one bit.

British radio had an interview this week with an older transexual. In fact she is a member of the British ruling classes - landed family who used to wait on the royal family. She didn't even have the op until she'd raised a family as a man. Her overall verdict - she really regretted her choice to have the operation. Very sad. She had lost touch with her two sons and their families and was generally given the cold shoulder by her erstwhile friends. Do things really change?

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Originally Posted by Prospero

British radio had an interview this week with an older transexual. In fact she is a member of the British ruling classes - landed family who used to wait on the royal family. She didn't even have the op until she'd raised a family as a man. Her overall verdict - she really regretted her choice to have the operation. Very sad. She had lost touch with her two sons and their families and was generally given the cold shoulder by her erstwhile friends. Do things really change?

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you tend to come up will many negative stories that please the establishment, many happy stories never hit the news media because they want to paint transsexual life in a negative manner. I know many happy trans! This life is tuff on many of us, gay.staight, and in between or just crazy fucked up. Hit us on the wrong day and we look pitiful. Hit us on the right day, after a glorious fuck/fucking and we are invincible.

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Originally Posted by fred41

they get set upon and eaten by the younger tgirls?

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Hahahahaha

They become T-MILFS.

Didnt one of the Wachowski brothers become a tranny? You can go on to direct films I guess

in my country most de transition

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in my country most de-transition

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That's one of the few truly interesting things I've read here. Tell us more, sweet Alyssa...