Harvard professor arrested for being black

Good. Now he knows what it's like to be white.




In my shoes, just to see what it's like to be me.

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The Henry Louis Gates situation is mainly a distraction, where the media has decided to document a sideshow instead of the hundreds of millions of people struggling every day with substandard health care coverage.

But there's also a serious policy component. Policemen should not be allowed to arrest someone for being an asshole in their own home. If that was the case, right-wing bloggers would all be doing 10-20. It appears clear, and I guess there may be audio tape to this effect, that the cop came to Gates' house, figured out that he was not a burglar, words were exchanged, and then the cop arrested him for disorderly conduct. That's really over the line of what cops should be allowed to do, regardless of the motivations, racial or otherwise.

The crime of disorderly conduct, beloved by cops who get into arguments with citizens, requires that the public be involved. Here's the relevant law from the Massachusetts Appeals Court, with citations and quotations omitted:

The statute authorizing prosecutions for disorderly conduct, G.L. c. 272, § 53, has been saved from constitutional infirmity by incorporating the definition of "disorderly" contained in § 250.2(1)(a) and (c) of the Model Penal Code. The resulting definition of "disorderly" includes only those individuals who, "with purpose to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof ... (a) engage in fighting or threatening, or in violent or tumultuous behavior; or ... (c) create a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which serves no legitimate purpose of the actor.' "Public" is defined as affecting or likely to affect persons in a place to which the public or a substantial group has access.


The lesson most cops understand (apart from the importance of using the word "tumultuous," which features prominently in Crowley's report) is that a person cannot violate 272/53 by yelling in his own home.

Read Crowley's report and stop on page two when he admits seeing Gates's Harvard photo ID. I don't care what Gates had said to him up until then, Crowley was obligated to leave. He had identified Gates. Any further investigation of Gates' right to be present in the house could have been done elsewhere. His decision to call HUPD seems disproportionate, but we could give him points for thoroughness if he had made that call from his car while keeping an eye on the house. Had a citizen refused to leave Gates' home after being told to, the cops could have made an arrest for trespass.

But for the sake of education, let's watch while Crowley makes it worse. Read on. He's staying put in Gates' home, having been asked to leave, and Gates is demanding his identification. What does Crowley do? He suggests that if Gates wants his name and badge number, he'll have to come outside to get it. What? Crowley may be forgiven for the initial approach and questioning, but surely he should understand that a citizen will be miffed at being questioned about his right to be in his own home. Perhaps Crowley could commit the following sentences to memory: "I'm sorry for disturbing you," and "I'm glad you're all right."

Spoiling for a fight, Crowley refuses to repeat his name and badge number. Most of us would hand over a business card or write the information on a scrap of paper. No, Crowley is upset and he's mad at Gates. He's been accused of racism. Nobody likes that, but if a cop can't take an insult without retaliating, he's in the wrong job. When a person is given a gun and a badge, we better make sure he's got a firm grasp on his temper. If Crowley had called Gates a name, I'd be disappointed in him, but Crowley did something much worse. He set Gates up for a criminal charge to punish Gates for his own embarrassment.

By telling Gates to come outside, Crowley establishes that he has lost all semblance of professionalism. It has now become personal and he wants to create a violation of 272/53. He gets Gates out onto the porch because a crowd has gathered providing onlookers who could experience alarm. Note his careful recitation (tumultuous behavior outside the residence in view of the public). And please do not overlook Crowley's final act of provocation. He tells an angry citizen to calm down while producing handcuffs. The only plausible question for the chief to ask about that little detail is: "Are you stupid, or do you think I'm stupid?" Crowley produced those handcuffs to provoke Gates and then arrested him. The decision to arrest is telling. If Crowley believed the charge was valid, he could have issued a summons. An arrest under these circumstances shows his true intent: to humiliate Gates.

The cop baited the guy into leaving the house so he could arrest him for making a cop feel bad.

I appreciate the work of law enforcement. But regardless of race, too many cops have the belief that if they get insulted, they have the right to turn that into an arresting offense. That's not the law whatsoever, nor should it be. It creates a chilling effect among the public not to call out bad behavior in law enforcement or raise your voice in any way. I know we're all supposed to believe that cops are saintly, but I live in LA. Police misconduct happens all the time, and we should be vigilant when it does.

Instead, the media takes the soccer ball and chases it into the corner, without any semblance of factual records or perspective. It becomes an emotional argument instead of a factual record of misconduct. We pay cops with tax money. We should not risk arrest when arguing with them.

Tags: Henry Louis Gates, law enforcement, police misconduct, Prosecutions, race, traditional media

http://crooksandliars.com/dday/actua...uis-gates-case

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Then you would be arrested just like this whining cunt Gates... You are obligated by law to surrender your ID when asked, refusal to do so will get you arrested.

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No, that is incorrect.

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Police may question a person detained in a Terry stop, but in general, the detainee is not required to answer.[9] However, many states have “stop-and-identify” laws... In Hiibel, the Court held, in a 5-4 decision, that a Nevada “stop-and-identify” law did not violate the United States Constitution. The Court’s opinion implied that a detainee was not required to produce written identification, but could satisfy the requirement merely by stating his name.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

Notes: It's different in a traffic stop, you do have to surrender written ID there. There are some few states that have laws requiring presentation of written ID (untested in court thus far), like Colorado. And my strong opinion is that even the "stop-and-identify" laws should be struck down as unconstitutional under the 5th Amendment, but that's the state of the law as of today.

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But we're still back to:

Break in has been reported, cop shows up and sees someone inside the house that matches the (vague) description given.

Should the cop just believe the guy saying "oh I am __, and I live at _this_addresss_" and leave?

The cop wanting to see ID is a no brainer under these circumstances, and one that shouldn't have set the guy off.

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Originally Posted by SarahG

The cop wanting to see ID is a no brainer under these circumstances, and one that shouldn't have set the guy off.

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(1) You don't have to show ID, that's the law.
(2) You don't have to let a cop into your home in the first place.
(3) This case pointedly demonstrates that showing ID will not help you.
(4) The police report admits that the cop was already doubly convinced that Gates was the homeowner before that point.

Mr. James Duane, a professor at Regent Law School and a former defense attorney, tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

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Such a big deal being made out of a non issue. As soon as some real news breaks this will go away.

Correction: After gates sues the police for false/unlawful arrest or some such then this will really go away.

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Yea is a non issue cause presidents of Ivy League University departments get arrested everyday.

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It's a simple mistake by the cops. There are mechanisms in place for investigating police misconduct. Dr. Gates is not a uneducated person and this arrest and release will be investigated without all this media scrutiny, or Barrack's comments. In fact all Barrack has done is make this take longer by inviting Dr. Gates and the cop to the whitehouse.

This is an issue is not for the executive branch, it is for the judiciary and that will happen at the state level not the federal level. He may have an opinion, but officially it's none of his business.

Being an asshole is not illegal. The cop was wrong....period. Gates behavior may have been extreme, but there were no laws broken. Someone earlier said he was arrested for being "uppity". Hmmm...they say the same thing about our president. All those on this board who aren't black have NO concept of what black men have gone thru in this country. The abuse and outright murder of black men by law enforcement is well documented.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/new...ts_arrest.html


Black officer at the scene says Crowley did nothing wrong.

Hmmmm.................


See folks race dont always matter!

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Originally Posted by dabaldone

Being an asshole is not illegal. The cop was wrong....period. Gates behavior may have been extreme, but there were no laws broken. Someone earlier said he was arrested for being "uppity". Hmmm...they say the same thing about our president. All those on this board who aren't black have NO concept of what black men have gone thru in this country. The abuse and outright murder of black men by law enforcement is well documented.

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News Flash: Police brutality is color blind...

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Originally Posted by scroller

(3) This case pointedly demonstrates that showing ID will not help you.

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Sounds to me like the opposite. If Gates had simply ignored his rights, shown ID, and not raised a stink over it- I doubt anything further would have happened.

It's when Gates refused to show ID that the whole scenario started to get ugly.

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Black officer at the scene says Crowley did nothing wrong.

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But the police department announced they regretted the arrest, and the prosecutor dropped the charge. Hmmmm...seems both officers were wrong. How was it possible for Professor Gates' accusations to get under Crowley's skin to the point where Crowley broke with his training and trumped up a charge of disorderly conduct? Why was Crowley's ego so sensitive in this particular situation, with this particular 5'4" intellectual black man? Nobody but Crowley knows the answers to those questions, and he'll probably have to dig for them. But the fact remains, the arrest was wrong, the police department said so and the charge was dropped.

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Originally Posted by dabaldone

Being an asshole is not illegal. The cop was wrong....period. Gates behavior may have been extreme, but there were no laws broken. Someone earlier said he was arrested for being "uppity". Hmmm...they say the same thing about our president. All those on this board who aren't black have NO concept of what black men have gone thru in this country. The abuse and outright murder of black men by law enforcement is well documented.

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Actually, failure to comply with a police officer is a crime and can be a felony, you need to read up on your laws.
Nah people who aren't black have no idea right? I'm white and I bet I've seen more shit done firsthand then you. In your experiences, what have you seen that makes you think you experienced this victimized life?

You don't know what the fuck I been through, white people been through, spanish people been through, or your next door neighbor been through. So stop acting like you know, because it's obvious you don't know much.

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Black officer at the scene says Crowley did nothing wrong.

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But the police department announced they regretted the arrest, and the prosecutor dropped the charge. Hmmmm...seems both officers were wrong. How was it possible for Professor Gates' accusations to get under Crowley's skin to the point where Crowley broke with his training and trumped up a charge of disorderly conduct? Why was Crowley's ego so sensitive in this particular situation, with this particular 5'4" intellectual black man? Nobody but Crowley knows the answers to those questions, and he'll probably have to dig for them. But the fact remains, the arrest was wrong, the police department said so and the charge was dropped.

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But he didn't break his training.

What people aren't realizing is that cops are trained to egg people into coming out of their homes so they can be arrested on irrelevant charges, as a tactic to employ in various domestic disputes.

Suppose a couple are fighting (verbally) and the neighbors call it in, often if the guy seems irrational, even if there is no signs of a law actually being broken (no sign of violence), they'll talk him into going outside. Then he either calms down, or he goes to jail.

In this case, Gates making a scene in the house, and not calming down about it- fell directly into their contingency plans so to speak.

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Originally Posted by SarahG

The cop wanting to see ID is a no brainer under these circumstances, and one that shouldn't have set the guy off.

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(1) You don't have to show ID, that's the law.
(2) You don't have to let a cop into your home in the first place.
(3) This case pointedly demonstrates that showing ID will not help you.
(4) The police report admits that the cop was already doubly convinced that Gates was the homeowner before that point.

Mr. James Duane, a professor at Regent Law School and a former defense attorney, tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

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That was to you too. Failure to comply with an officer is a crime and can be a felony, make sure you know what your talking about before talking on it.

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Being an asshole is not illegal. The cop was wrong....period. Gates behavior may have been extreme, but there were no laws broken. Someone earlier said he was arrested for being "uppity". Hmmm...they say the same thing about our president. All those on this board who aren't black have NO concept of what black men have gone thru in this country. The abuse and outright murder of black men by law enforcement is well documented.

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Actually, failure to comply with a police officer is a crime and can be a felony, you need to read up on your laws.
Nah people who aren't black have no idea right? I'm white and I bet I've seen more shit done firsthand then you. In your experiences, what have you seen that makes you think you experienced this victimized life?

You don't know what the fuck I been through, white people been through, spanish people been through, or your next door neighbor been through. So stop acting like you know, because it's obvious you don't know much.

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It's only a crime if the request is a lawful one.

A cop can request a citizen to do anything, anything at all- you only are legally bound to comply if the request is legal.

For instance if a cop walked up to your door w/out a warrant or court order and demanded to search your house, its not a crime to say no.

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Black officer at the scene says Crowley did nothing wrong.

Hmmmm.................

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But the police department announced they regretted the arrest, and the prosecutor dropped the charge. Hmmmm...seems both officers were wrong. How was it possible for Professor Gates' accusations to get under Crowley's skin to the point where Crowley broke with his training and trumped up a charge of disorderly conduct? Why was Crowley's ego so sensitive in this particular situation, with this particular 5'4" intellectual black man? Nobody but Crowley knows the answers to those questions, and he'll probably have to dig for them. But the fact remains, the arrest was wrong, the police department said so and the charge was dropped.

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But he didn't break his training.

What people aren't realizing is that cops are trained to egg people into coming out of their homes so they can be arrested on irrelevant charges, as a tactic to employ in various domestic disputes.

Suppose a couple are fighting (verbally) and the neighbors call it in, often if the guy seems irrational, even if there is no signs of a law actually being broken (no sign of violence), they'll talk him into going outside. Then he either calms down, or he goes to jail.

In this case, Gates making a scene in the house, and not calming down about it- fell directly into their contingency plans so to speak.

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How clever!

i can imagine how frustrated the officer was though.

a little uppidy negro talking down to you... where does he get off? LOL
I'm sure this had more to do with the cops ego than anything else.

And in this case the request was a lawful one, but thanks for clearing that up to anyone who was unsure. In any case you should always comply, not to searches, but to little things it's in your best interest.

Alyssa- Where does he get off? Would he talk that way to some negro gang member? No, but he talks that way to a police officer? So where does he get off? The police are there to protect you, so stop thinking your the victim of everything. For such a smart man he sounds really dumb, it must've been his parents telling him about the "white devil" all the time.

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Black officer at the scene says Crowley did nothing wrong.

Hmmmm.................

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But the police department announced they regretted the arrest, and the prosecutor dropped the charge. Hmmmm...seems both officers were wrong. How was it possible for Professor Gates' accusations to get under Crowley's skin to the point where Crowley broke with his training and trumped up a charge of disorderly conduct? Why was Crowley's ego so sensitive in this particular situation, with this particular 5'4" intellectual black man? Nobody but Crowley knows the answers to those questions, and he'll probably have to dig for them. But the fact remains, the arrest was wrong, the police department said so and the charge was dropped.

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But he didn't break his training.

What people aren't realizing is that cops are trained to egg people into coming out of their homes so they can be arrested on irrelevant charges, as a tactic to employ in various domestic disputes.

Suppose a couple are fighting (verbally) and the neighbors call it in, often if the guy seems irrational, even if there is no signs of a law actually being broken (no sign of violence), they'll talk him into going outside. Then he either calms down, or he goes to jail.

In this case, Gates making a scene in the house, and not calming down about it- fell directly into their contingency plans so to speak.

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How clever!

i can imagine how frustrated the officer was though.

a little uppidy negro talking down to you... where does he get off? LOL
I'm sure this had more to do with the cops ego than anything else.

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Ego yes, the race part is what I'm not yet convinced of.

Refusing to comply with a (given the circumstances reasonable) request, then insulting him (accusing the cop of being a racist), and getting passionately confrontational about it- is sure to get any cop to want to react harshly (either in the form of tasings, beatings, tickets/citations, or arrests).

Try pulling that the next time you get pulled over and see what happens. The most tolerant cop in the world is only going to take so much of that before they go "you know, let me go get my traffic code book so I can see how many tickets I can write you for"

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Black officer at the scene says Crowley did nothing wrong.

Hmmmm.................

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But the police department announced they regretted the arrest, and the prosecutor dropped the charge. Hmmmm...seems both officers were wrong. How was it possible for Professor Gates' accusations to get under Crowley's skin to the point where Crowley broke with his training and trumped up a charge of disorderly conduct? Why was Crowley's ego so sensitive in this particular situation, with this particular 5'4" intellectual black man? Nobody but Crowley knows the answers to those questions, and he'll probably have to dig for them. But the fact remains, the arrest was wrong, the police department said so and the charge was dropped.

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Yeah Trish, but they only dropped the charges due to the prominant figure involved and subsequent media hysteria. When an ordinary man much less educated or well known as Gates, sticks up for themselvs and an "officer of the law" gets offended; the bogus disorderly charges etc. are sustained. The media is undeniably beating around the bush.

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And in this case the request was a lawful one, but thanks for clearing that up to anyone who was unsure. In any case you should always comply, not to searches, but to little things it's in your best interest.

Alyssa- Where does he get off? Would he talk that way to some negro gang member? No, but he talks that way to a police officer? So where does he get off? The police are there to protect you, so stop thinking your the victim of everything. For such a smart man he sounds really dumb, it must've been his parents telling him about the "white devil" all the time.

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I disagree, it was an unlawful request (Gates wasn't legally required to comply with it)... but it was a reasonable request.

If it were me, I would have shown ID or something to show I live there, not because of the law, but because it would be the reasonable, logical way to react to a break in report.

I know I would be pissed if my apartment was broken into, and the perp got away with it by simply saying "Oh, I am __ and I live here" only to have the cop take his word at it.

I think, if I understand you correctly, that you and I agree, El Nino. 1. The charges were trumped up. 2. Because of Professor Gates' prominence, the police department had to admit what they knew, that the professor was unjustly charged. 3. Had Gates not been so prominent, the charges would not have been dropped.

This is 2009, it has nothing to do with his color. White people and white teens are arrested everyday, they don't just look around for negros to arrest.

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This is 2009, it has nothing to do with his color. White people and white teens are arrested everyday, they don't just look around for negros to arrest.

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Regardless who they DO look for to arrest.

They WILL manhandle anyone who throws a shitfit over a request, insults them, or questions their authority.

Little old, white ladies have been tased under the above scenarios, "privileged" only gets you so far when cops have a virtually unchallenged ability to let their egos & power trips get in the way of ethics & laws.

The more I stay on the Internet, the more I realize the world is populate by dumbasses with stupid ideas and selfish agendas.
I didn't read all if the responses, but the most intelligent one was whoever said this was an ego issue. NOBODY knows exactly what happened except the people involved, so you people quoting police reports and such are supreme idiots. Unless you were there, you're formulating strong OPINIONS on hearsay!!
I have an opinion on how it went down, but it's irrelevant. If it happened as reported, EVERYTHING was as it should've been until he was arrested. The cop did what was expected and the profs response should've been expected too! Ideally if the prof was rude, the cop should have understood where that was coming from, and he should have realized the Stupidity (yes, I said it) in arresting someone in his own home when he had already established that THE CRIME HE WENT TO INVESTIGATE WAS NOT BEING PERPETRATED!! He was not there because someone was disorderly. That came after he ascertained there was no reason for him to be there! Stupid ego driven bullshit.
Now, the educated black man should have known exploding at the officer was not going to end well. Give the man what he wants. Shut up and both of you get on with your life. There are plenty of times when cops act shady. But if you just let that shit go, it usually amounts to nothing. It's your fucking ego that escalates little shit into big things. Learn to pick your battles. This should've been such a non-event. Although the cop could EASILY be racist, this event is more about the respect that a cops ego demands. Many guys become cops because they lacked respect, so they become cops to command it. Give them due respect, and get on with your fucking life. It's a game. Learn how to play it.
Oh and Allanah Starr is world famous. Doesn't mean the average person knows who she is! Just because you achieve fame in certain circles, doesn't mean everyone travels on those circles. Get a clue people!

This is 2009, not 3009 and racism still most definitely exists today. Latinos and blacks are arrested and brutalized by the police way disproportionately to whites. Look at the racial proportions of jailhouse populations. I do agree with Sarah, however: inappropriate use of force is a problem for everyone and no race or age group is immune to maltreatment.

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Yes. It is a game. We can play it, or we can get rid of it. Liberty means not having to play a game to stay out of jail.

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It's a game. Learn how to play it.

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Yes. It is a game. We can play it, or we can get rid of it. Liberty means not having to play a game to stay out of jail.

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Like I said, pick your battles! When someone steps on your shoes at the club you can start a fight that gets you arrested or let the shit go. If you think it's worth it, by all means cause conflicts instead of squashing them.

Getting your foot trampled at the club isn't a threat to everyone's liberty. Allowing police officers to behave capriciously threatens everyone's liberty. Your analogy doesn't hold.

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Being an asshole is not illegal. The cop was wrong....period. Gates behavior may have been extreme, but there were no laws broken. Someone earlier said he was arrested for being "uppity". Hmmm...they say the same thing about our president. All those on this board who aren't black have NO concept of what black men have gone thru in this country. The abuse and outright murder of black men by law enforcement is well documented.

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Actually, failure to comply with a police officer is a crime and can be a felony, you need to read up on your laws.
Nah people who aren't black have no idea right? I'm white and I bet I've seen more shit done firsthand then you. In your experiences, what have you seen that makes you think you experienced this victimized life?

You don't know what the fuck I been through, white people been through, spanish people been through, or your next door neighbor been through. So stop acting like you know, because it's obvious you don't know much.

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THE TRUTH HURTS. I'll add that latinos share the same BS from law enforcement. Re-read the facts. He did comply with the officer and showed ID...wich he did not have to do in his own home. There is no way a white man can relate..no matter how angry you get.

Angry? I'm not angry at all, it seems like you are. I just want you to realize this has nothing to do with his race.
The way you get rid of this, is aknowledge it as the police having and abusing too much power over the citizens of the United States of America. If you think of it as a race issue you aren't getting rid of anything, your only saying it isn't right because it happens to your race more than others. So stop playing victim, as if it happened to you, and stop thinking of it as a race issue.

So I guess blacks and hispanics aren't racist against white people? So now your complaint goes to that you want latino/hispanic or black officers, because then this wouldnt happen, right?

I rhink I've said enough...

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...I just want you to realize this has nothing to do with his race.
The way you get rid of this, is aknowledge it as the police having and abusing too much power over the citizens of the United States of America. ...

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If only more people could come to that conclusion!

Instead, we get people who joke about police abuses ("don't taze me, bro") or people who take the cop's side no matter how blatantly wrong they were (anyone recall how many people defended the cops involved with the B.A.R.T. EXECUTION?), and anyone who is smart enough to go "you know, this shit is wrong" is treated like a schizophrenic NWO conspiracy theorist.

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Getting your foot trampled at the club isn't a threat to everyone's liberty. Allowing police officers to behave capriciously threatens everyone's liberty. Your analogy doesn't hold.

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Of course it holds. Two people did something wrong but they were both insignificant in the grand scheme of things. It's all about perception. You perceive that the cop is treating you a certain way because of your skin color, so you get defensive. What if he's actually NOT? Getting arrested for disorderly conduct did not help anything anymore than fighting at the club would have. Just makes the enemy angrier. It's like a little gnat. Little insignificant events are just annoying!
This is not a stage to be rallying the civil rights troops on. It's trivial.
If the prof had been arrested for b & e, that would be a fight worth taking up. But a clash of TWO egos? Fighting that is poor judgment and is not a fight for anyones liberty, but your own personal pride.

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I think, if I understand you correctly, that you and I agree, El Nino. 1. The charges were trumped up. 2. Because of Professor Gates' prominence, the police department had to admit what they knew, that the professor was unjustly charged. 3. Had Gates not been so prominent, the charges would not have been dropped.

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Yes!

Good thing Obama (whom I voted for) won the election. Otherwise that solitary complainer guy would immediately start a thread entitled "Obama loses election because he is black"

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Isn't that a bit much, the guy doesn't deserve to lose his job he just arrested someone who was being loud and disruptive,you can't talk to cops any kind of way and expect nothing to happen just because this guy was a high class professor doesn't mean he deserved any kind of special treatment.Really if me or anyone on this forum would to get loud and disruptive with a cop we probably would get arrested,you have to be smart about these things.If you're stupid enough to get loud and belligerent with a cop you deserve to be arrestred no matter who you are.

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Racism is still going strong. Like for example the other day your mom told me to pull out my big black cock. Why did she have to say "black"? Why couldnt she just say cock? I never felt so disgusted in my life. I still let her suck my cock but I sure wasnt happy.

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ha ha. Too funny.
Racism is flourishing, but it isn't racism everytime something unfortunate happens to a black person. Credibility is lost everytime we cry racism at the drop of a hat. As our president said (paraphrasing): "Far too many times blacks and Latinos still get detained for no reason, and this casts a shadow on the times when there IS just cause". The fact is we all need to work on our people skills.

Police with too much power ? They were called to protect this man's home . This is not a random search . Yes the officer on the scene fucked up yet it's the professor that really showed himself as a total racist . I hope Harvard is proud of their esteemed professor .

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Police with too much power ? They were called to protect this man's home . This is not a random search . Yes the officer on the scene fucked up yet it's the professor that really showed himself as a total racist . I hope Harvard is proud of their esteemed professor .

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Police with too much power ? They were called to protect this man's home . This is not a random search . Yes the officer on the scene fucked up yet it's the professor that really showed himself as a total racist . I hope Harvard is proud of their esteemed professor .

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That about sums up the truth. Thank God someone else sees it!

Though I dont think the cops fucked up anything.

dude was arrested because he was another brian gumbel sellout type brutha.

that professor is half white and married to a white women


so what you talking about him being a racist?

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Police with too much power ? They were called to protect this man's home . This is not a random search . Yes the officer on the scene fucked up yet it's the professor that really showed himself as a total racist . I hope Harvard is proud of their esteemed professor .

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