Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza 1/1/09

The study [by Israeli doctoral student and clinical psychologist Nufar Yishai-Karin] . . . included interviews with 18 soldiers and three officers who served with her in two armored infantry units. She knew most of them from her military service. She interviewed each of them personally in his home for a few hours and recorded the interviews; she still has the tapes. Her prior acquaintance with the soldiers led them to trust her implicitly, and they opened up fully, readily telling her about crimes they themselves had committed: murder and killing, BREAKING THE BONES OF LITTLE CHILDREN, inflicting humiliation, destroying property, stealing . . . The article describes the brutalization of some of the soldiers . . . Among the brutalized group was the impulsive type of soldier, who used the opportunity to let off steam, sometimes enthusiastically. Testimony: “I went out on my first patrol . . . Others on the patrol were just shooting like crazies . . . I also started shooting like all the others . . . Look, I WON’T TELL YOU IT WASN’T COOL . . . suddenly you are responsible for what you are doing. You take the gun. You shoot. You do what you want.”

(‘Parallel Lives’ , Dalia Karpel, article in Haaretz. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/909589.html).

We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. WE WILL FOREVER DESTROY because we want a world of our own.

(Maurice Samuel, Zionist author, ‘You Gentiles’, p. 155).

There is a huge gap between us Jews and our enemies not just in morality, sanctity of life, and conscience . . . they do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy.

(Moshe Katsav, former Israeli President, Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001).

One million Arabs are NOT WORTH A JEWISH FINGERNAIL.

(Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, quoted in New York Times, February 28, 1994).

Some junior commanders encouraged the brutality and even endorsed it. “After two months in Rafah a new commanding officer arrived … So we do a first patrol with him. It’s 6 A.M., Rafah is under curfew, there isn’t so much as a dog in the streets. Only a little boy of four playing in the sand. He is building a castle in his yard. He [the officer] suddenly starts running and we all run with him . . . He grabbed the boy. I am a degenerate if I am not telling you the truth: HE BROKE HIS HAND AT THE WRIST . . . BROKE HIS LEG . . . AND STARTED TO STOMP ON HIS STOMACH . . . We are all there, jaws dropping, looking at him in shock . . . The next day I go out with him on another patrol, and the soldiers are ALREADY STARTING TO DO THE SAME THING.”

(Dalia Karpel, op.cit.).

The Palestinians are BEASTS WALKING ON TWO LEGS.

(Israeli President Menahim Begin, speech quoted in the New Statesman, 25 June 1982).

Learn to put it in one post dude....

The Jews ordered us to line up against the wall started shooting. All were killed: my father, mother, grandfather, grandmother, uncles, aunts and some of their children. Halim Eid saw a man shoot a bullet into the neck of my [pregnant] sister. THEN HE CUT HER STOMACH OPEN WITH A BUTCHER’S KNIFE.

(Fahimi Zidan, a Palestinian child survivor of the infamous Deir Yassin massacre of 1948).

There is no doubt that many SEXUAL ATROCITIES were committed by the attacking Jews. Many young school girls were raped and later slaughtered. Many infants were also butchered and killed. I also saw one old woman who had been severely beaten about the head with rifle butts.

(Richard Catling, British army officer, recalling the Deir Yassin massacre).

“We have to do everything to MAKE THE PALESTINIANS SO MISERABLE that they will leave.”

(Rafael Eitan, Israeli general and politician, 1980).

PORCAZIO wtf dude do you not know how to put in one POST...fucking waste of time to read all your random quotes.

Whoever [i.e. Arab at checkpoint] does not act nicely gets beaten. We have clubs for that. Sometimes I might just not like his face. And then he gets one too. JUST A WAY OF PASSING THE TIME.

(Israeli policewoman, quoted in Haaretz, 16 January 2004).

We have to KILL ALL THE PALESTINIANS unless they are resigned to live here as SLAVES.

(Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee to re-elect Shlomo Lahat, mayor of Tel-Aviv, 1983).

I ran toward them and PUNCHED THE ARAB RIGHT IN THE FACE, never before did I do such a thing, he collapsed on the road. I dragged him over behind the jeep, pushed him in. We sat in the back seat. Our Arab lay down there and just wept quietly to himself. He bled and made a puddle of blood and saliva, which angered and disgusted me, so I grabbed him by the hair and twisted his head to the side. He cried out loud. He didn’t stop crying and someone said his hands hurt from the handcuffs. One of the soldiers approached him and punched him in the stomach. THE ARAB SUFFERED FROM PAIN AND GRUNTED, WE ALL GIGGLED, IT WAS FUNNY. I KICKED HIM REAL HARD on the bottom and he whirled inside, just as I planned. They shouted that I am crazy and laughed – AND I FELT GREAT.

(Liran Ron-Forer, December 2003. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...estinians.html)

We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel. Force is all they understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours . . . When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to SCURRY AROUND LIKE DRUGGED COCKROACHES IN A BOTTLE.

(Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of IDF, New York Times, 14 April 1983).

THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS PALESTINIANS. THEY NEVER EXISTED.

(Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, June 15, 1969).

BAH!!!!!

There are good and bad Israeli, as well as Jews, just like for any other group there are good and the bad individual in its composition. But one's allegiance must be to justice and righteousness to be called good; and when one’s own country strays from the acceptable, then, dissent, or at least silence, is required. I am enraged and disgusted to view the ignorant, on the most part, and hypocritical support of Israel’s policies against the Palestinians.
I have been following the issue for years, and for years Israel provoked the Palestinians in many cruel and creative ways. Israel would enter occupied territories and beat up Palestinians; the Palestinians would react throwing rocks; the Israeli would shoot live ammo, killing and wounding scores of Palestinians; the Palestinians would launch missiles (or, "big fireworks") into near Israeli cities, killing none, or maybe one or two Israeli; Israel would use its full fledged military force killing hundreds of Palestinians.
This went on and on, since I'm old enough to read news. Before that, I did some research, and KittyKaiti, you are not ignorant: you are a liar and hypocrite; history, true history, is a compendium of Israel's cruelty and blatant disregard for international laws and human rights.
The media is strongly influenced and molded by its Jewish ownership; none-the-less, it is easy to condemn the conditions the Palestinians endure at the hands of Israel. As of 2006, 267,163 Israelis live within the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The establishment and expansion of these settlements in the West Bank and (at the time) the Gaza Strip have been described as violations of the fourth Geneva Convention by the UN Security Council in several resolutions. The European Union and the General Assembly of the United Nations consider the settlements to be illegal. I find it hard to chastise the Palestinians when they react to these abuses; even more so when Israel, in contrast, uses substantial excess of force, not short of genocide.
The Palestinians seem to me like a toddler from the kindergarten, who left famished and rebuffed, cries and moves frantically to be acknowledged; Israel is a brute that replies to the toddler with a punch in the face; in the news you would read that the kid was moving erratically in his nuisance becoming a security issue, therefore needing to be thwarted with swift and firm resolve.
Ignorant and blatantly hypocritical are those who support Israel. Mostly, they know very well that, being few, they must rally together to uphold their horrid mischiefs, tapping all their resources, media and political puppeteering, to brainwash the world in agreeing to their unlikely righteousness.
KittyKaiti, you are right, people should research more the Israeli-Palestinian issue; but people like you would be sorry then, for none would like Israel anymore.
Once again, many Israeli do not approve the policies of violence of their present government, and my spite is vented only towards those that do.

This thread is bait for stupid people.


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Reports are coming out (even in the face of Israeli media suppression), that they are using depleted uranium and white phosphorus weaponry against Gaza victims.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-u...a-victims.html

London Times Reports: http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-r...us-shells.html

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Reports are coming out (even in the face of Israeli media suppression), that they are using depleted uranium and white phosphorus weaponry against Gaza victims.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-u...a-victims.html

London Times Reports: http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-r...us-shells.html

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Prisonplanet.com? Of course. This thread IS bait for the stupid.

Here's a good one for you, and on a forum right up your alley, and yes it's a toughie too:

"Who is crazier: David Icke or Alex Jones?"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread229827/pg1

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Reports are coming out (even in the face of Israeli media suppression), that they are using depleted uranium and white phosphorus weaponry against Gaza victims.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-u...a-victims.html

London Times Reports: http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-r...us-shells.html

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Prisonplanet.com? Of course. This thread IS bait for the stupid.

Here's a good one for you, and on a forum right up your alley, and yes it's a toughie too:

"Who is crazier: David Icke or Alex Jones?"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread229827/pg1

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Caught you right.Unintelligent Douche.

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Reports are coming out (even in the face of Israeli media suppression), that they are using depleted uranium and white phosphorus weaponry against Gaza victims.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-u...a-victims.html

London Times Reports: http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-r...us-shells.html

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Prisonplanet.com? Of course. This thread IS bait for the stupid.

Here's a good one for you, and on a forum right up your alley, and yes it's a toughie too:

"Who is crazier: David Icke or Alex Jones?"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread229827/pg1

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Caught you right.Unintelligent Douche.

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Actually the article came from the conservative London Times, PP just reported that. Don't kill the messengers, Losers

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Niccolo your hate doesn't isn't even worthy of a response. In fact the only appropriate post on here ... seanchi

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What "hate" would that be then? Be specific. And if you choose to respond, please try to respond to the points I actually made regarding what you had already said. Because throwing out a vague ad hominem insult then ignoring what's been said is what's ... well ... to use your own term ... pathetic.

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Dismal, take your own conclusions.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719

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HOLY SHIT

1. This belongs in the Politics and Religion section.
2. This video is NOT Israel. Read the goddamn description you retard. That is video footage of a Hamas parade in which Hamas weapons accidentally went off and blew up in a crowd of people. This has NOTHING to do with Israel. Stop being a fucking Nazi Jew hater.
3. Israel has the fucking right to defend itself and I fully support their actions. I bet you wouldn't be bitching if terrorists were launching rockets into your neighborhood, killing your family and neighbors. You'd want the government to stop them. Stupid people enrage me. How is Israel supposed to combat people that fire rockets from the roof tops of schools and hospitals? Stop bitching about Israel.

This picture accurately depicts my mood now that I just read through the stupidity in this thread.

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is an ideology, not a race. That's simple enough for anyone to grasp, surely. If you don't believe me ask Christopher Hitchens, who shot down some ignoramus who tried that one with him just the other week.

Another pointless ad hominem insult from seanchi there.

Yahoo News:
Israeli strike hits 'outside' UN school, 34 dead

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090106/...l_palestinians

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ok, fair enough answer. You either see the whole thing as shit - or you accept all reglions.
However, stating that the area was "infected" by Muslims (paraphrased) is akin to stating that Israel is "infected" by Jews or Judaism, is it not? Or have you chosen to side with one conspiracy over another?

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I don't mind if someone wants to believe in God. That is your choice, you're completely wrong, but it's your choice. But when you take your beliefs and force them on people, I hate you for it. I keep saying this, Islam was founded on genocide and terrorism. There is nothing peaceful about it. The Qur'an repeatedly states to kill those that don't follow Islam. Spread it to everyone and convert or die. Judaism on the other hand was founded peacefully and does not promote mass murder. The Jews are a peaceful people and have always been the target of eradication. They don't force their views on anyone. Muslims though, force their views on everyone. They still do it today.

The sole purpose of Islam is to infect and destroy. They spread from place to place and force Islam on everyone. Europe has a massive Muslim population now. They have all been moving over there, flooding the UK, France, pretty much all of western and southern Europe. They riot (France a few years ago) and force the governments of said nations, such as the UK, to enact Sharia Law (Muslim Law). They force the construction of mosques and neighborhoods and just keep rioting, protesting and demanding more. Look at how many of them have entered Europe lately. It's an invasion. In about 15 years, Europe will be under Islamic control. Russia is flooded with them. We cannot allow Islam to take over the free world. It is a terrorist cult and it's spreading. I view Islam as a virus or cancer. Now they're in Canada. They are subverting our countries into becoming Islamic states. This is why I hate them. I refuse to live under Sharia Law. I hate terrorists and Islam is terrorism. It has to stop.

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I could not find a nice way to say this so. You need to go back to school Take a religion class for all I care. You have no Moral beliefs your arguements sound like you think that (you[kaiti] are right and we the people who justify our arguements are wrong.)
your atheist thats fine,you are given that right as a human being(American) to choose your religion. Some poeple DO NOT let me repeat myself DO NOT have the right to choose their religion many ARAB countries do not have our rights. So have you ever taken that into consideration? On a personal note your too involved on tellng people what is right and wrong based on your beliefs.

Your saying there isnt a god,Islam is wrong follow me...basically, I just want to point out what you hate is what your doing.

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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I am atheist because I am intelligent enough to understand that all religion is a lie. There is no God and if there was, he/she wouldn't be a dick as depicted in the bible. Religion is mass conspiracy against the people to gain control over the masses. It was created by ancient civilizations to explain all the weird shit we couldn't understand or explain. Religion evolved into what it is today and has caused nothing but destruction and war. Islam is just the worst of it, invented by a homicidal, pedophilic, terrorist. I could name many other "religions" that are just money scams and evil organizations, like the Catholic Church (who supported the Nazis in WWII) and Scientology (probably the largest money scam in U.S. history).

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Ehmm, sorry to disapoint you but, nop, you are not intelligent enough to understand religion... apparently you are not well informed either about the things that you say.

You are the reason the world hates the USA.... people like you... that make statements like that, without taking a minute to realize that what you say is a bunch of bullcrap.... if you don't know what you are talking about, please do all of us a favor and SHUT UP... then get informed (as in real information), read, get some descent education... and then, maybe just maybe you can open your mouth and say something worth.

Everyone is entitled their own opinion... and you are entitled yours too, as long as you know what the hell you're saying... and as long as you don't use that opinion as an excuse to insult other people.

In the end, the only one looking like an ignorant is you.

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If you are an expert on religious studies, on Islam in particular, then please go ahead and make your case and explain exactly why the other poster is wrong. For this ad hominem diatribe of yours speaks to your own intellectual limitations, and that's all it does. You have said nothing at all about the matter at hand.

I'd really like all those people who insulted kittyKaiti when she spoke about Islam to reveal what they know about Islam. Because there were precious little comments addressing what she actually said about Islam. Who's actually done any serious study here? Anybody? As for the comments about kittyKaiti's likening Islam to a virus, well that's an old, old idea. Surely someone here has read Richard Dawkins?

http://richarddawkins.net/article,10...ns---Channel-4

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But the article didn't say what you claimed now, did it? At the very beginning of this thread people either didn't bother watching a video, which was also under a misleading heading btw, or else they misunderstood it entirely, and automatically began knocking Israel. Here's an article which does not say that Israel is using that outlawed weapon against "Gaza victims" at all. I wonder how many people actually read the article. You obviously didn't. Or, like so many people with the original video, if you did read it, then you didn't understand it.

Make LOVE not WAR!

How stupid can a human being be to fight and
make war nowadays?

Jesus, do these people never grow up??? :roll:

"Whiskey Pete" is being dropped over there...

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I'd really like all those people who insulted kittyKaiti when she spoke about Islam to reveal what they know about Islam. Because there were precious little comments addressing what she actually said about Islam. Who's actually done any serious study here? Anybody? As for the comments about kittyKaiti's likening Islam to a virus, well that's an old, old idea. Surely someone here has read Richard Dawkins?

http://richarddawkins.net/article,10...ns---Channel-4

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They probably know precious little. They should read Robert Spencer's books: "The Truth About Muhammad" and "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)". they are very eyeopening. Seems a lot of what the young lady said was true. But if it doesn't mesh with people's idea of -"we're all the same and if we could just talk..all our problems would be solved"..views of the world..then it's automatically hate speech and can't be listened to even if it's factual. Ask all the people who have death decrees put on their heads because the good people of Islam didn't like what they said or wrote or drew or acted improperly, etc. These things weren't done by a "small meaningless, Muslim minority..they were declared by Islamic religious leaders of "whole countries"..like Iran.
I love people who like to say Christianity and Islam are the same (or the Bible versus the Koran)..I can't remember someone in modern times who was threatened to be put to death for criticizing christianity or the bible. try that with the Koran....and NO I'm not religious at all.

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A question without answer i read in Vanguard News Network:

What a Jewy thing to do. Did you know that the Geneva Conventions - which Israel ratified in 1951 - prohibit using military force against civilians? But then, when you’re a Jew, rules don’t apply to you.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

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This statement is quite racist.
You need to make a distinction here.
ZIONIST's are the people that support whats going on in Israel today NOT Jews.
Many jews do NOT support the occupation.
Go do some research and by the way the vanguard network is a RACIST network.....you can look it up they arent objective and VERY white racist orientated.

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Wow.
I started to side with you a little until you started writing evil hateful stuff like this.
You sound like an Israeli settler.
I hope its just the anger speaking instead of your true feelings.

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Dismal, take your own conclusions.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719

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You need to correct the title of this thread. It's not a scene of an IDF attack in Gaza on1/1/09, but of an explosion during a Hamas parade in 2005.

Horrifying. Couldn't watch it.

Its funny how we look at despicable acts in the middle East and tie it to Islam;
funny I wonder if the people over there look at the acts the the Ku Klux Klan do and base their judgment of Christianity off of that.