BTW, this is a justification for racist behaviour, as I've stated all along, not a reason it's not racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
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BTW, this is a justification for racist behaviour, as I've stated all along, not a reason it's not racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister
I don't know about that. An awful lot of the girls I've seen tend to date the most thuggish guys possible in their private lives.
I have to bring these points up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
Did you ever think that him being a crazy, homeless person was more scary to her than him being black? You don't know who you are dealing with, with someone like that. They could be harmless, or they could be dangerous. And if you are such a gentleman, why didn't you come to her aid? Why didn't YOU do something about that guy besides take pictures of him?
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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
And just what, exactly, did you expect them to do that YOU didn't do? You try to throw shame on the white people on that train, but yet, you are just as guilty. You didn't speak out against the hate speech, you just looked at them, and that in turn, gives them silent approval.
Can you imagine a white person saying something to that "ignorant foul raised negro"? The white guy would be labeled a racist. It's horrible, but today, most people have been taught by the media and the politically correct to never say anything negative about a different people (race, sexual orientation, religion, etc.) or a different culture. Only the people in those groups can do that.
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Its all in the man and how he acts and approches me. Now come on I have lovers, which have nothing to do with paying clients. See some potientail lovers get slid in to the client mode by no class, stupid comments or being tranny chasers. I have a lover who is a sean John model, a man who see's and treats me as a WOMAN not a transexual. See thats the difference. Some men treat us as sex objects, or shemales, trannys, whatever those are in my mind tricks. A man who treats me and see's me as a woman is a friend or a possible lover. Thet are far and FEW but do exsist!Quote:
Originally Posted by drock
You have never met me, or even had a convo with me online, how dare you say something like this! Motherfuck you and the bitch low enough to have given birth to scum like you! I am strong enough to say it how it is and not give a fuck! See I have supported myself, by myself sine I was 16 years old, I am now 36. I made it this far knowing more than my elbow from my asshole!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteIsHere
It’s clear we all have strong feelings about the issues the clashing issues that arise when, for example an Asian escort refuses on “principle” to service African Americans. My own heritage is African-Korean American. Add to that my transgender status and you can believe me when I say that I know what prejudice and discrimination is about. As I see it, a person’s body is their own. A person’s right to decide who’s going to touch it, kiss it, be allowed inside it, etc. is paramount. It doesn’t trump all other claims, but rather all exterior claims vanish at the boundary of the body. To deny this fundamental right is to lay a moral claim on another person’s body. Clearly there no such claim can be moral. To deny this fundamental right is to invite slavery. This is why I'm against torture. This is why I’m pro-choice for women. This is why I’m for doctor assisted euthanasia.
It’s obvious this argument can go on forever and frankly it’s getting tiresome. I think I’ve made my position clear. I'll step aside for awhile and let others take it up from here.
For those such as Trish, I want to inform them of what this thread is really about. This thread was never about escorting or sex (I never should have included that part when I started this thread), but rather an observation regarding race. I believe that many Asians and some Hispanics have an inferiority complex with regards to White people, which is why they hate people of color. I am shocked at how many of my Asian male friends have told me that they can't get a date with an Asian girl because most of them will only date White men. Many Asian girls believe that White people are superior to them and are desperate to be apart of the White community. In the Asian community, people like this are called twinkies. Yellow (Asian) on the outside, but white inside. A perfect example would be Michelle Malkin, a Filipinia conservative commentator, who has attacked members of her own Asian community and other minority groups. She is obviously married to a White male and many believe that she is ashamed of her race. She has even wrote for some anti-immigrant/White Supermacist websites.
With regards to Hispanics, even though Latin Americans claim to be racially mixed, one only sees individuals who have a high percentage of European blood in positions of power and wealth. Thus, it does not surprise me that some Hispanics will only date Whites because they have never seen a positive image of a black or brown skinned Hispanic.
Even in the U.S., African-Americans are rarely ever shown in a positive light, which explains why some GGs and TS may not want to date them. But with someone like Barack Obama in the White House, hopefully more people will be able to conjur up more positive images of African-Americans and along with other people of color.
That was a really cheap shot, Danny. It was out of character for you, and you should apologise to Trish for it. There is not a kinder or more tolerant person on this board, so keep it sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny partridge
As you well know this argument has been thrashed to death many times here and it always comes to the same thing-- a polarisation between "It's wrong for a woman to refuse sex with a man on the ground of his race," and "A woman has a right to choose."
The problem is that both of these are true, but as Trish said, the woman's right not to have sex trumps all.
The men who are being prejudiced against are correct. There is no justifiable reason to assume that just because a man is black, hispanic or whatever--even Scottish-- he should be in any way more violent, thuggish, drunken or more likely to behave in an unacceptable way than anyone else.
But irrespective of what her reasons are, a woman has the absolute right to choose whom she has sex with. Men do NOT have the right to have sex with anyone they want, and it doesn't matter whether the woman they want is a whore or not. A woman's body is NOT a convenience store, and a woman does not lose her fundamental human rights just because she is a whore. She doesn't have to explain why. "No," is all she has to say.
You are far too intelligent a person not to realise this, Danny. Fight the racist argument in areas where you can win and I'm right behind you, but this particular argument is simply not winnable.
I'm not getting in to this any further, because this horse is so dead it hums. But you still owe Trish an apology.
Hi, you're recently arrived so you probably did not know that this subject has been regularly visited, with the production of a great deal of heat and very little light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister
But don't judge Trish wrongly because she's unafraid to speak her mind or tackle subjects that she knows full well will not make her popular. Trish is definitely one of the people here you want to know.
Said me piece now, welcome and hope you enjoy the ride.
Yeah...This subject is Really Getting Old!!!
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Originally Posted by CORVETTEDUDE
She's cute, but I could find someone better. And yes, she's a racist too. But I have the ability to say "So what?" and keep it moving. Racists are stupid, doesn't matter how they try to rationalize it, racism is an irrational thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hara_Juku Tgirl
I've told this story before, but my family was kicked out of Uganda for being mixed (African/South Asian/White) in the early 70's. As in "Get out or DIE." So, I'm fully aware that blacks can be racist too. They didn't roll over and say "It's not fair, this is racism!" They went to the UK and then America and made a better life.
By the same token, if I see someone that I want to talk to and they decide not to chose me because I'm not the right color. I say fuck 'em, say a little prayer for them, then move on with my life and lose no sleep over it, no matter what color they are.
The thing is sometimes women will turn down this:
http://hiphoprepublican.com/uploaded...JCP-793668.jpg
for this:
http://www.flynetonline.com/uploaded...ffy-781353.jpg
And that is a little offensive. When I was younger I'd be deeply offended by that. But now, it's more like :shrug
I would listen more if there was any hint that you'd actually read everything I wrote and not put words in my mouth. Let me ask you this: what have I said about whether or not "the woman's right not to have sex trumps all."???????????Quote:
Originally Posted by MacShreach
One of the problems I have with the argument being made is that when it comes to sex work, sex workers want to say "it's not sex" when it comes to the morality of doing it, but "it is sex" when it comes to their ability to refuse service. I say "pick one".
To a large extent the "I have the right to say who invades my body" is a smokescreen, because for the vast majority of sex workers the vast majority of their clients "gross them out" to some extent TO BEGIN with. So, they aren't making so "holy" decision about the invasion of their bodies when it comes to race because they have already abdicated that by doing sex work to begin with. This is different with a VERY small minority of sex workers who really do pick and choose every customer to basically be a guy who they would have sex with for free anyway, but that really is a VERY small minority, and isn't true for almost all of the sex workers trying to use the "body invasion" defense.
Doesn't matter a damn. The right to say no is the right to say no without having to justify it, and it is the right of all women whether or not they're on the game or not. The argument is therefore unwinnable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny partridge
Danny, you're one of the smart and decent guys here, I like you and we get on, so I'm not arguing whether or not the reasons are right with you. Discrimination is always wrong, but this is not the battleground to fight that on. That's all I'm saying.
Whether or not you agree is neither here nor there, because that's it, I said all I had to say the last time this horse was flogged to death, and quite possibly the time before that too. You and I will, I'm sure, continue to get on, but, um, I think you still owe Trish an apology. She didn't deserve that swipe.
You know, I think the brothers are right that they are the constant victims of racism in our bigoted society, and as many have alluded to here, we need to end this prejudice asap so we can unify ourselves as a nation and turn against the uppity Asians & especially those damned Mexicans.
Hey now, Mexican men treat me right and do thangs that "brothers" won't do with ME. I.e, hold my hand and kiss me in public, call just to say hi, take me out to eat, the love of my life is Mexican and my very first boyfriend, who i was with for 5 years was Mexican too. Thast just from MY expierences so don't go flyin off the handleQuote:
Originally Posted by El_hefe
Isn't "El Hefe" a dude from Mexican descent?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_hefe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Abeyta
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I hate to bring back a topic but I just wanted to say a few words. What people are complaining about is not racism. Racism is not getting a job or notbeing able to move some where bicause of race or percieved race.If one is talking about where they spend their money it is just a choice. Now if transexual providers were regulated by the state then there may be more of an argument. If some one is not interested in you or your money just look elsewhere. The racism subject is one that is sensitive for a lot of people but I dont think it is healthy to assume that a preference is made on racism. For the record I am black and I have asain, white ,black, hispanic TS and GG girls. I hang at a mostly hispanic venue and I wont say I am always succesful but I never feel its because of discrimination. There are a lot of issues in the TS community and so if people dont know you they might have some strange rules. Maybee thats how they are able to deal with things. I have had several asian TS say they were afraid for my size and girth. But for every four like that there will be an adventurous one. So lets think positive and say if you got the game there is no ass you can't tame.
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Originally Posted by Jay Jay
I think you are missing the point though.
The point is, rather, the sentiment is, at least from my standpoint, is don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The real "choice" is, most of these "I don't want to deal with black men" choices are because said girl is afraid of black men and thus, you are committing RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
The reason It bends me a bit, has more to do with how, in 2010, people still treat black men in general. THE SENTIMENT, not the actual hooker here, cause I haven't felt the need experiment with and out of town EROS hooker, or any hooker for that matter in almost 2 years (Bay Area and all ;) ), the sentiment is what ticks me off on these type posts.
At any rate, I'm done cause I don't have all night to type if I'm fixin to hit the club tonight.
broken record here , everyone is racist , it's a human survival tactic , you have to accept this and i know nobody wants to accept it , it's in the degrees and actions that makes the difference !
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hmmm..
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YesQuote:
Originally Posted by TsVanessa69
Had a hot Asian Rigel give me some for free once, anther for next to nothing.Asian girls that don't date black, or prefer white hate them selves. For that matter black and Latina Chics are hotter than Asian girls anyway. Asian girls often have flat butts and ugly faces. Not all but most.
i think asian ts are most racist.
most wont date anybody who ain't white.
i'll stick to latin chicks.
This Filipina gal I see has the sweetest smile but is also a massive racist. I'm the one who scolds her about it.
not me, though i have to agree that white men are cute and exotic for us, Asian girls. Just look at those different color of hair and eyes.
there are cute men in every race. 2 days ago, i just saw a hunk Asian who was (unfortunately) not that interested in me. Too bad lol:yingyang:
i have noticed that asian tg and gg women prefer white guys more often than not. i don't think its racist per se. imo, i think it has to do in part with some insecurity about their own ethnicity. some times, i think minorities view race as a hierarchy where white is on top and if you bag white dude it equals success and more prestige. btw, I'm s asian.
It does not apply to me.
I'm proud being Asian. There is no way i want to be a white chick.
And btw, i like white guys as much as black guys. But my fav. is: North African and Turkish guys. Simply delicious :banana:
I like their big, sturdy bones, their olive skin color, their mannerism, their hair..oh..of course, their dick lol
Now, i'm getting a hard on. I'd better call my client to come earlier lol
oh...Brazilian boys too!
I'm over it; it's their choice.
Noce old thread to bump *bullshit*
I agree with Ottorocket. I have learned through the years that TS Women are like other women with the major physical difference - their genitals. First and foremost the physical attraction has to be in any potential relationship. I am older and I am not in physically fit as I was in my 20's and 30's; therefore, I cannot demand or hope to date any beautiful TransWoman until I become the hardbody. I am back in the gym and hope to transform from a couch potato to a french frie - who doesn't love french fries. I have been fortunate to have befriended transwomen and semi-dated the ladies too. Anyway, I hope I get to meet a beautiful trans woman again and develop a LTR because they're amazing ladies and I wish each of them the very best in their lives.
Well, as a black man I really appreciate their honesty.
Do you really wanna pay over 100 dollar to get service from someone who
did not like you (as a result give you a crappy one), but fake it anyway.
I never pay for sex, but I think a smart customer would just keep moving.
Oh, to the original poster,
please stop crying every time someone say they don't like black people.
This is part of life. Deal with it!!!!!!
You are making all of us black men look like weak fools.
I am not even black, just someone who battles racism. When people do not speak out about racism, it will continue to exist. Please don't tell me racism no longer exists. Why don't you go ask those Sikhs who were murdered by a white supremacist in Wisconsin because they did not have white skin? Why not ask Trayvon Martin's parents if racism still exists? Why not ask President Obama who is callled a Kenyan Muslim Terrorist? Why not ask Muslim Americans about being racial harassed and attacked because of their race and religion? Only a fool would believe that racism is not a serious problem in America. I, along with many other Americans, believe it has gotten even worse because white America is having a difficult time dealing with the fact that America has a black president and that non-white Americans are growing in population and will soon be the majority in the United States.
I created this thread almost four years ago. I have to admitt that since President Obama has been in the White House, things have gotten a lot better for men of color in terms of dating tgirls who are Hispanic and Asian. White males are no longer viewed as having all the power in this country and thus, men of color (Hispanic, Black, Asian, Arab, and Biracial men) are having an easier time with Hispanic and Asian tgirls.
I can't tell if his post is serious or sarcastic...