The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On It.

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Originally Posted by payload4

You sir are the disgusting one. How can you knock someone for what they do! Its not about being cheap its about paying for what you feel is a good price. If the other party agrees then its all good and there is no problem. There is nothing wrong with shopping around for the right price! If you don't trick then how could you comment on what he does? You are so typical when it comes to acting so self-righteous and thinking you are above others who do trick. It's all a game and that game is played by both sides. If you don't get that then the only bastard here is you! The only offensive thing I've read is that someone like you can judge someone else for what they practice....LOL:violin

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Wow. Another noob defending cheap, selfish behavior under the guise of 'tolerance.' Terrific. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

WOW,,that's all I will say..WOW!!!..lol

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I'll throw a few extra WOWs in too.......................I think I'd rather donate to some starving kid in Rwanda

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Originally Posted by payload4

You sir are the disgusting one. How can you knock someone for what they do! Its not about being cheap its about paying for what you feel is a good price. If the other party agrees then its all good and there is no problem. There is nothing wrong with shopping around for the right price! If you don't trick then how could you comment on what he does? You are so typical when it comes to acting so self-righteous and thinking you are above others who do trick. It's all a game and that game is played by both sides. If you don't get that then the only bastard here is you! The only offensive thing I've read is that someone like you can judge someone else for what they practice....LOL:violin

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You just roll with the game, whatever it may be, don't you? I bet you'd be real good at the auction block, drive the price down on the scarred East European blonde by hyper-inflating the price of the Ethiopian. Way to go game player! Someday I hope you get exactly what you pay for...........

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I'll throw a few extra WOWs in too.......................I think I'd rather donate to some starving kid in Rwanda

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Well geez, I hope there's a message board for that and that the people on it are as sexy and entertaining as we are. 'Starving kid in Rwanda?' How's that for an interesting example of moral relativism? Because, yeah, instead of trying to make the money to better our lives (as well as yours by extension), we should just transform ourselves into sex symbols for your entertainment with the power of positive thinking, right? And for no other reason than your satisfaction. :?

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Originally Posted by omack

*blah blah blah blah*
... But yeah, if I were so inclined to pay for a top shelf tgirl, like say... kimer james with mariana cordobas cock... then $500 would be the limit.

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lol at anyone who would pony $500 for Kimber.
LMFAO at anyone who would pony 500 for any escort!

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Well geez, I hope there's a message board for that and that the people on it are as sexy and entertaining as we are. 'Starving kid in Rwanda?' How's that for an interesting example of moral relativism? Because, yeah, instead of trying to make the money to better our lives (as well as yours by extension), we should just transform ourselves into sex symbols for your entertainment with the power of positive thinking, right? :?

~BB~

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Wrong - a business transaction is a business transaction. I have no problem with that insofar as both parties are on relatively equal footing. However, soliciting for gifts is somewhat distasteful - I mean I sell my products but I don't look to my clients for handouts to support a wannabe lifestyle. If selling your body isn't making you enough to buy Gucci bags and Jimmy Choo shoes then maybe you should change your line of work and not demean yourself further by asking the clients you look down upon to give you perks.

Have some self-respect at whatever you do - either increase your prices or figure out that selling your body isn't a long term plan for wealth and success in this society.

I understand that sometimes we have to do whatever's necessary to survive and I respect that tremendously but view it (prostitution) for what it is - a short-term fix. It's not the way to wealth and happiness. So be a soldier and do what you have to do and then get the fuck out and that includes not begging for anyone to buy you $20.00 bullshit stuff. For me, I'd rather donate that 20.00 to someone who needs it more.

I'm sure you've heard of Xaviera Hollander - she was at the top of the top in the game for years and yet she ended up pretty broke. She's the norm I think.

And btw, I don't think stating any of that should make you any less sexy and entertaining ;-)

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Originally Posted by Schimmel

lol at anyone who would pony $500 for Kimber.

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I'll second that. However, I have paid more than $500 for an escort, and don't regret it.

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Originally Posted by TJ347

I'll second that. However, I have paid more than $500 for an escort, and don't regret it.

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Did she have an Amazon wishlist?

lol hope I didn't offend you TJ. You have to tell me who. (in private if u wish)

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Did she have an Amazon wishlist?

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lol

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Wrong - a business transaction is a business transaction. I have no problem with that insofar as both parties are on relatively equal footing. However, soliciting for gifts is somewhat distasteful - I mean I sell my products but I don't look to my clients for handouts to support a wannabe lifestyle. If selling your body isn't making you enough to buy Gucci bags and Jimmy Choo shoes then maybe you should change your line of work and not demean yourself further by asking the clients you look down upon to give you perks.

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I absolutely agree, but you're judging the value of all transsexuals by the shallowness of the pornstar type escorts on this board and the frivolous things that they buy. Trust me, the reality is much different for many of us but I myself have spoken out against this type of behavior, so I don't think it's fair of you to stereotype us all.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I understand that sometimes we have to do whatever's necessary to survive and I respect that tremendously but view it (prostitution) for what it is - a short-term fix. It's not the way to wealth and happiness. So be a soldier and do what you have to do and then get the fuck out and that includes not begging for anyone to buy you $20.00 bullshit stuff. For me, I'd rather donate that 20.00 to someone who needs it more.

I'm sure you've heard of Xaviera Hollander - she was at the top of the top in the game for years and yet she ended up pretty broke. She's the norm I think.

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Escorting is a short term fix, I agree, but trust me, with the connections that you make doing it, if you're smart, you can certainly parlay that into a long-term profit. There are other roles to be filled in the escort industry other than just being an escort (as well as investment opportunities), but more importantly, in the short term, if you really thought a girl was worth it, you wouldn't help her our finaicially even just a little? I think you're more compassionate than that, but I guess I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

And btw, I don't think stating any of that should make you any less sexy and entertaining ;-).

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Thank you. *blush*

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Wrong - a business transaction is a business transaction. I have no problem with that insofar as both parties are on relatively equal footing. However, soliciting for gifts is somewhat distasteful - I mean I sell my products but I don't look to my clients for handouts to support a wannabe lifestyle. If selling your body isn't making you enough to buy Gucci bags and Jimmy Choo shoes then maybe you should change your line of work and not demean yourself further by asking the clients you look down upon to give you perks.

Have some self-respect at whatever you do - either increase your prices or figure out that selling your body isn't a long term plan for wealth and success in this society.

I understand that sometimes we have to do whatever's necessary to survive and I respect that tremendously but view it (prostitution) for what it is - a short-term fix. It's not the way to wealth and happiness. So be a soldier and do what you have to do and then get the fuck out and that includes not begging for anyone to buy you $20.00 bullshit stuff. For me, I'd rather donate that 20.00 to someone who needs it more.

I'm sure you've heard of Xaviera Hollander - she was at the top of the top in the game for years and yet she ended up pretty broke. She's the norm I think.

And btw, I don't think stating any of that should make you any less sexy and entertaining ;-)

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Self-respect VS Free shit :shrug

If these suckers weren't sending money to the girls,who no doubt feel nothing but respect these guys ;) ,they wouldn't be donating the money to starving children.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Did she have an Amazon wishlist?

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No, she didn't. This was back in 2000, 2001.

Schmimmel: I was talking about a GG escort, who cost me about $800 or so. The most I ever paid for a tgirl escort was probably around half that, with one exception, where I spent about $600 or so. I won't mention that girl's name though, because she doesn't escort anymore and doesn't want it to be known that she ever did. I will say that she was absolutely worth every penny money, and would've been worth considerably more in my opinion. That said, my experience is that you get a better experience for $400 than you do for more money. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's my experience.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

I absolutely agree, but you're judging the value of all transsexuals by the shallowness of the pornstar type escorts on this board and the frivolous things that they buy. Trust me, the reality is much different for many of us but I myself have spoken out against this type of behavior, so I don't think it's fair of you to stereotype us all.

Escorting is a short term fix, I agree, but trust me, with the connections that you make doing it, if you're smart, you can certainly parlay that into a long-term profit. There are other roles to be filled in the escort industry other than just being an escort (as well as investment opportunities), but more importantly, in the short term, if you really thought a girl was worth it, you wouldn't help her our finaicially even just a little? I think you're more compassionate than that, but I guess I could be wrong.


Thank you. *blush*

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I'm not judging all transsexuals or any particular demographic for that matter - only making a statement about those who ask for freebies to support a lifestyle they can't support by just working. In that regard it's no different than a guy with a day job hitting the strip at night with a tin cup in his hand looking for change!

Sure I would help someone out that needed the help, help them find work, or learn skills, or whatever that would give them the ability to be independent but I'm not about to buy them designer shoes or perfume or appliances. Unless you need a bottle of Stetson for Women to smell good at the office job :) How can you take a person seriously that asks 'fans' (this seems to be a new term for tricks) to buy gifts and in return the fan gets a pair of used panties! WTF! And who is the person that receives these used panties and what exactly do they do with said article?! I mean I do actually donate money to a child in a developing country but I get a nice fridge magnet for doing that. It might be difficult to explain a pair of dirty panties hanging on the fridge though.......

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Originally Posted by timxxx

Self-respect VS Free shit :shrug

If these suckers weren't sending money to the girls,who no doubt feel nothing but respect these guys ;) ,they wouldn't be donating the money to starving children.

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I'm trying to work a joke around Tricks being for Kids......but I can't get the phrasing just right.............

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I would help someone out that needed the help, help them find work, or learn skills, or whatever that would give them the ability to be independent but I'm not about to buy them designer shoes or perfume or appliances.

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:Bowdown::iagree::Bowdown:

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Sure I would help someone out that needed the help, help them find work, or learn skills, or whatever that would give them the ability to be independent but I'm not about to buy them designer shoes or perfume or appliances.

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Again, every escort isn't into that and every girl with a regular job isn't not into that.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I mean I do actually donate money to a child in a developing country but I get a nice fridge magnet for doing that. It might be difficult to explain a pair of dirty panties hanging on the fridge though.......

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So many girls on this board do porn to support their escorting to support their porn. They work really, really hard. Sure, someone from a developing country needs the money more, but that doesn't mean that nobody else deserves it or has earned it. Say what you will about escorting, but at least (for most of us anyway), it's an honest living during a difficult economic period.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Again, every escort isn't into that and every girl with a regular job isn't not into that.



So many girls on this board do porn to support their escorting to support their porn. They work really, really hard. Sure, someone from a developing country needs the money more, but that doesn't mean that nobody else deserves it or has earned it. Say what you will about escorting, but at least (for most of us anyway), it's an honest living during a difficult economic period.

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Everyone likes to receive gifts but again when I buy from a supplier they don't also ask me to look up their Amazon Wishlist and buy them some stupid ass shit. It's not like these Wishlists are asking for DreamWeaver to improve the quality of their personal porn site.

I don't doubt that they work really hard but if they want gifts find a partner, have a serious relationship and a natural effect of that will be gifts! I believe you when you say escorting is not easy and yes, on a micro level it is an honest living (the individual is finding a way to support themself) although on a macro level it's not because you don't pay income tax which helps support our society (I pay 35% income tax which added to the various other taxes mean that close to 50% of every dollar I earn goes to some form of government)

Note to some of you guys, there are many guys out there who buy girls gifts. Throughout the years I have received everything from key chains, flowers, chocolates, purses, clothes,furs, watches, perfumes, surgery, jewelry, books, scarves, lingerie, luggage, furniture, cds, candles- you name it-from the mundane to the luxe. There are many guys out there WHO actually ask if you have a wish list, believe it or not. I can't really bother making one because I have no patience, usually people will just ask.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Everyone likes to receive gifts but again when I buy from a supplier they don't also ask me to look up their Amazon Wishlist and buy them some stupid ass shit. It's not like these Wishlists are asking for DreamWeaver to improve the quality of their personal porn site.

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I agree completely. I wasn't really talking about the wishlists, I was talking about cash escort rates. Maybe I got my signals crossed, but regardless, in my case my wishlist contains electronics, wardrobe, etc that is all for use in building my website. Unfortunately though, personnel has been the holdup on it lately, not equipment.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I don't doubt that they work really hard but if they want gifts find a partner, have a serious relationship and a natural effect of that will be gifts! I believe you when you say escorting is not easy and yes, on a micro level it is an honest living (the individual is finding a way to support themself) although on a macro level it's not because you don't pay income tax which helps support our society (I pay 35% income tax which added to the various other taxes mean that close to 50% of every dollar I earn goes to some form of government)

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We would pay taxes if our business was legal. When I owned my escort agency, I did in fact pay taxes, lots of them, because it was a legally incorporated business. Independent escorts are a different story, so please, don't cry to me about it, contact your Congressmen instead. :) :lol:

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

There are many guys out there WHO actually ask if you have a wish list, believe it or not.

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Womp! :lol:

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

So many girls on this board do porn to support their escorting to support their porn. They work really, really hard.
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This takes me back to when I was discussing this issue with Kelly Shore. As I recall, I made a point about "a fucking job" as opposed to a "real" fucking job or something like that, and it fits here perfectly. I find what you're saying here rather insulting.

I'm sure escorting and porn aren't the easiest things in the world, but you're not going to get any sympathy from the 9 to 5 crowd. I mean, I have a lay up job that doesn't task me much at all and I'm not sympathetic to the "plight" of escorts, so I highly doubt a dude doing manual labor for nickels and dimes or even a dude making good pay at a job that's simply mentally draining is going to shed a tear.

According to several girls here, they chose to do porn and/or escort because it pays significantly more money than a legit gig, which allows them to transition faster. I can appreciate that, but don't try and convince me that being an escort is harder than being a taxi driver, because I know better. If it's so hard then go do something else, but don't cry to guys here about the hardships of an industry you chose to enter when they're getting up and going to work forty to sixty hours a week, and in most cases making less money than you. That is, assuming you girls aren't lying about the money you make... But I'll leave that one alone just now.

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

Note to some of you guys, there are many guys out there who buy girls gifts. Throughout the years I have received everything from key chains, flowers, chocolates, purses, clothes,furs, watches, perfumes, surgery, jewelry, books, scarves, lingerie, luggage, furniture, cds, candles- you name it-from the mundane to the luxe. There are many guys out there WHO actually ask if you have a wish list, believe it or not. I can't really bother making one because I have no patience, usually people will just ask.

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So men really are to blame for indulging these wish lists seem to be the gist of this?

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Originally Posted by TJ347

I'm sure escorting and porn aren't the easiest things in the world, but you're not going to get any sympathy from the 9 to 5 crowd. I mean, I have a lay up job that doesn't task me much at all and I'm not sympathetic to the "plight" of escorts, so I highly doubt a dude doing manual labor for nickels and dimes or even a dude making good pay at a job that's simply mentally draining is going to shed a tear.

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First of all, 9 to 5'ers aren't going to get any sympathy from me. If they want to work harder instead of smarter, that's their prerogative but it certainly doesn't make them better than the rest of us. Let see you bend over and take it in the ass because the only jobs in your area left are McJobs and you can't move because you're a single mom and need to be near your child. :geek:

Again, I'm interjecting my personal experience into this, and I admit that may be a bit limited in scope, but your attitude is based on your knowledge and experience. Please allow me to add to that knowledge and experience.

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Originally Posted by TJ347

According to several girls here, they chose to do porn and/or escort because it pays significantly more money than a legit gig, which allows them to transition faster. I can appreciate that, but don't try and convince me that being an escort is harder than being a taxi driver, because I know better.

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I applied to be a taxi driver. They turned me down because I'm a medicinal marijuana patient. It doesn't matter if I intended to drive high or not, and anti-depressants with even worse side effects are seemingly more acceptable. Not to mention that so many other transwomen can't get jobs simply because of who they are. Society shouldn't be able to dictate what types of meds I'm allowed to take or which gender I'm supposed to represent, particularly since the law validates my very necessary choices, and so society shouldn't bitch when it gets nothing in return.

We don't contribute as much because we're marginalized. We're not marginalized because we don't want to contribute. I think you're being pretty callous here.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

So men really are to blame for indulging these wish lists seem to be the gist of this?

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Didn't you know? Men are always to blame. Every. Single. Time. And no matter the issue being discussed.

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Originally Posted by TJ347

Didn't you know? Men are always to blame. Every. Single. Time. And no matter the issue being discussed.

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I think that settles it - they really are women born in men's bodies ;-)

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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC

Note to some of you guys, there are many guys out there who buy girls gifts. Throughout the years I have received everything from key chains, flowers, chocolates, purses, clothes,furs, watches, perfumes, surgery, jewelry, books, scarves, lingerie, luggage, furniture, cds, candles- you name it-from the mundane to the luxe. There are many guys out there WHO actually ask if you have a wish list, believe it or not. I can't really bother making one because I have no patience, usually people will just ask.

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Thank You for your input Allanah. That sounds like the guys you've had some connection or relations with either through clients,,the many parties,,maybe even some form of internet chatting for a while,,etc. That is all fine and good. What I am talking about (and it seems others agree as well) is the girls who "Talk" the luxurious lifestyle,,try to get fed off of a very short-lived pornstar career, spew hate with threads yet try to project a lifestyle of being happily married and "I got it goin on",,etc..etc. Well,,WTF are you you sitting on your ass starting threads begging for gifts if you got hubby there and you are so happy? Or,,if you are escorting and you have a standard policy of non-negotiating discounts or freebies,,,then why would you stoop so low to beg for free gifts yourself. If a girl had any pride or self-respect,,she would ask or suggest it discreetly. Not on a free board like this and definitely not with the promise of used panties in return!!

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Originally Posted by TJ347

I'm sure escorting and porn aren't the easiest things in the world, but you're not going to get any sympathy from the 9 to 5 crowd. I mean, I have a lay up job that doesn't task me much at all and I'm not sympathetic to the "plight" of escorts, so I highly doubt a dude doing manual labor for nickels and dimes or even a dude making good pay at a job that's simply mentally draining is going to shed a tear.

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I shed a tear not because they're escorts but because of WHY they're escorts. Call me soft.......but I'm still not contributing to no damn wish list!

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Originally Posted by BigDF

I like wishlists because they usually have a good range pricing options where I can buy something for a girl if I want to. I've bought stuff for one girl who occasionally posts on here as well as contributing to another couple of girls for expenses. I haven't been able to do much lately because of certain financial setbacks that my wife and I are working our way through, but I hope to able to help other girls I like in the future. Seems little enough to do for someone whose given me much pleasure and communicated with me, albeit for that most part online.:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I'll throw a few extra WOWs in too.......................I think I'd rather donate to some starving kid in Rwanda

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Why don't you go do that, friend, rather than suggest what I'm doing is wrong. I'm not saying you have to or should do it, but for a guy in my situation a wishlist is an excellent way for me to do something nice for a lady I like without compromising my marriage vows. Somehow I suspect the starving kids in Rawanda have the same chance of getting something from you as any girl on here does.:fu:

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

Thank You for your input Allanah. That sounds like the guys you've had some connection or relations with either through clients,,the many parties,,maybe even some form of internet chatting for a while,,etc. That is all fine and good. What I am talking about (and it seems others agree as well) is the girls who "Talk" the luxurious lifestyle,,try to get fed off of a very short-lived pornstar career, spew hate with threads yet try to project a lifestyle of being happily married and "I got it goin on",,etc..etc. Well,,WTF are you you sitting on your ass starting threads begging for gifts if you got hubby there and you are so happy? Or,,if you are escorting and you have a standard policy of non-negotiating discounts or freebies,,,then why would you stoop so low to beg for free gifts yourself. If a girl had any pride or self-respect,,she would ask or suggest it discreetly. Not on a free board like this and definitely not with the promise of used panties in return!!

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Damn straight...............I can appreciate a girl getting things without asking. THAT is part of the game. But advertising a list of cheap garbage that you wish for while claiming you've got some kind of idyllic life just plain lacks self-respect.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

But advertising a list of cheap garbage that you wish for while claiming you've got some kind of idyllic life just plain lacks self-respect.

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Is it wrong of me to actually agree with that? :lol:

There's a lot of fronting that goes on in this community.

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Bella, I never said one person was better than another because they had a 9 to 5 as opposed to being an escort. Second, please don't extrapolate your situation into an excuse for all escorts far and wide. As I said previously, Peggygee offered girls help if they were interested in legit jobs and had a grand total of ZERO takers. This is why I hold to my belief that most escorts, not all, chose that profession because they are lazy and want easy money. And how could you really blame me or anyone else for having that opinion... I mean no takers whatsoever on legit jobs? None?

Lastly, I never said anything about escorts or transsexuals in general not contributing to society, so I'm not sure where you got that. I personally know two transsexuals who contribute to society via payroll taxes and so on, but of course there are a number of ways to contribute to society beyond paying taxes. I'm sure there are escorts who contribute in those ways, but I don't know them personally... Maybe you do. But as I never claimed they didn't contribute to society to begin with, I fail to see how I'm being callous.

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Originally Posted by BigDF

Why don't you go do that, friend, rather than suggest what I'm doing is wrong. I'm not saying you have to or should do it, but for a guy in my situation a wishlist is an excellent way for me to do something nice for a lady I like without compromising my marriage vows. Somehow I suspect the starving kids in Rawanda have the same chance of getting something from you as any girl on here does.:fu:

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Perhaps you should have saved those coins and contribute to your own household instead. Not knocking you if you want to give money away which you evidently don't have to spare but don't try and make it out to be some sort of Gandhi-like act to donate money for used panties.

I do contribute to a kid in a developing country and thanks to your comment above I think I'll throw some to a kid in Rwanda too. Now you should feel great about that because you just made a difference in the life of an under-priviledged kid. And tell you what, if you send me your address I'll get them to ship you the fridge magnet :kiss:

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I shed a tear not because they're escorts but because of WHY they're escorts.

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Are they not escorts because they chose to be? Please explain if you're under some other impression.

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Originally Posted by TJ347

Bella, I never said one person was better than another because they had a 9 to 5 as opposed to being an escort. Second, please don't extrapolate your situation into an excuse for all escorts far and wide. As I said previously, Peggygee offered girls help if they were interested in legit jobs and had a grand total of ZERO takers.

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I guess I wasn't here for that, but I would have taken her up on her offer if it was feasible. I mean I won't work for $8 an hour, but within reason I would certainly take a day job.

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Originally Posted by TJ347

Lastly, I never said anything about escorts or transsexuals in general not contributing to society, so I'm not sure where you got that. I personally know two transsexuals who contribute to society via payroll taxes and so on, but of course there are a number of ways to contribute to society beyond paying taxes. I'm sure there are escorts who contribute in those ways, but I don't know them personally... Maybe you do. But as I never claimed they didn't contribute to society to begin with, I fail to see how I'm being callous.

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It could have been someone else who said it, I'd have to go back and check the thread, but you certainly seemed to mirror the sentiment. If I was wrong, I apologize, but even still, there are those who do have that opinion so my reply still goes out to them.

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I don't know why anyone would argue with the payment. I wouldn't go into Macy's and say "Yeah, I'm only going to pay $5 for this T-shirt because I don't really like red, but I still want to wear it." However, I would argue if there was an agreed upon price and then there was a price change after the deed was done.:)

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Originally Posted by TJ347

Are they not escorts because they chose to be? Please explain if you're under some other impression.

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I'm not saying that everyone that turns tricks don't have better choices but sometimes choosing the lesser of two evils isn't much of a choice. I can appreciate that some people don't have all the tools at certain times and as the saying goes 'desperate times call for desperate measures'. Which is why I say I can understand it being looked at as a temporary means of survival with the ultimate objective being to get the fuck out!

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Originally Posted by theone1982

I don't know why anyone would argue with the payment. I wouldn't go into Macy's and say "Yeah, I'm only going to pay $5 for this T-shirt because I don't really like red, but I still want to wear it." However, I would argue if there was an agreed upon price and then there was a price change after the deed was done.:)

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Exactly!

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~BB~

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Perhaps you should have saved those coins and contribute to your own household instead. Not knocking you if you want to give money away which you evidently don't have to spare but don't try and make it out to be some sort of Gandhi-like act to donate money for used panties.

I do contribute to a kid in a developing country and thanks to your comment above I think I'll throw some to a kid in Rwanda too. Now you should feel great about that because you just made a difference in the life of an under-priviledged kid. And tell you what, if you send me your address I'll get them to ship you the fridge magnet :kiss:

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WTF? Well, excuse me for stating my opinion. I know I'm not Gandhi. I'm just an old perv who likes reading nice words from attractive young ladies. And just for the record, I've never received anyone's dirty underwear. I've got fetishes, sure, but I do draw the line at that. And of course I'll send you my address so I can collect my reward. Just check your pms.

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Originally Posted by BigDF

And of course I'll send you my address so I can collect my reward. Just check your pms.

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its a deal!

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

I'm not saying that everyone that turns tricks don't have better choices but sometimes choosing the lesser of two evils isn't much of a choice. I can appreciate that some people don't have all the tools at certain times and as the saying goes 'desperate times call for desperate measures'. Which is why I say I can understand it being looked at as a temporary means of survival with the ultimate objective being to get the fuck out!

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Most escort did not enter the skin trade because there were no local job opportunities and they didn't have skills, and for anyone to pretend otherwise is an insult. Many people, countless people, have lived in shit towns working shit jobs to pay for an education to get them out of the shit town and shit job. I'd have attained everything I have today years earlier if I'd chosen to become a coke dealer, but instead like countless people across the country and around the world, I took on college loans and worked various shit jobs to make ends meet, then entered the workforce as a wage slave before progressing to where I am today. Many of the girls you're showing sympathy for simply want everything handed to them, and right now. Most never entered the workforce because of the fast money they could make escorting or doing porn, not because they were torn between the devil and the deep blue sea. Sure, some of them may have entered porn or escorting because of unique circumstances, but let's not pretend this applies to every escort here, or even most of them. I'm not trying to kick their backs in, but several girls have laughed at guys here bragging about how much more money they made and how much less time it took for them to make it, so if I was doing that I wouldn't feel bad. In most cases, they're just fucking lazy, getting out of bed in the morning only to get back into bed to get paid that $200 for an hour's "work". Does that sound as hard as what you do for a living?

Anyway, how long could a person do something before you would no longer consider it a temporary vocation? I ask because, if you hang around long enough, you'll see many temps go permanent here. I know of one who has been escorting for at least fifteen years now but still claims she's only doing it temporarily to save up money to open a bakery. That bakery will never open, because she spends all of her money on designer bullshit, cosmetics and so on. As she ages, her attractiveness will diminish, her clients will stop coming, and she'll end up flat broke on the streets whoring. This is not an uncommon end. There are exceptions, but what I'm saying is not a rare situation.