To all those who spoke up for me, thank you. But now, please, just let this thread go back to the real subject, and ignore anything else that is said about me. Thats what I am going to do too.
FK
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To all those who spoke up for me, thank you. But now, please, just let this thread go back to the real subject, and ignore anything else that is said about me. Thats what I am going to do too.
FK
Back on topic...
I believe others have made these 2 points earlier but I guess I feel they deserve to be repeated...
1. For the girls seeking someone other than a trick or a trannychaser, well it's not any easier in the strictly hetero world. Some guys are pigs, some girls are cunts. And it's not always easy to spot them until you're knee deep in emotional investment. It's amazing how 47 years of life has gone whizzing by, thinking all the while that I have plenty of time to find a LTR, and then suddenly I realize that not only have I been swimming with sharks the whole time but that I've also exhibited very shark-like tendencies myself.
Anyone who believes they're sweet as honey and the perfect mate for Mr or Ms perfect skin, body, personality, or what have you... is truly delusional. We're all assholes at various times and not too attracitve during those times.
2. Some guys here are saying... guys always pay no matter whether it's with an escort or some expensive date. True, but I would expand it and say that "we" all pay. The girls pay to have those barbie doll looks, clothes, etc. And some guys will claim that they don't like makeup and designer this or designer that. But in the end those "nice" guys end up falling for those glammed up babes.
So Kira... I sympathize. But it's a jungle for all of us out there. I do wish you good fortune no matter who you are with or what kind of career moves that you make.
I know what you mean. In fact, I used to be just that kind of guy. I think I have changed somewhat, but I am lucky that I have a girl that has been very patient with me and has allowed me to take my time in comming around.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraHarden_TS
I belive that most guys that go out with T-girls do love them. It's just the fear of what others will think about us that keeps us from "comming out" and really being with a T-girl 100%. I was totally in love with the first T-girl that I dated for a long period of time, but I was so freaked out about what others would say, so I kept our relationship "in the closet". Of course she ended up dumping me, and I was totally broken hearted for the longest time. I have been dumped by many GG's, but it never felt as bad as this breakup felt. I do have to admint, that I do love the dick and that is what got me into T-girls in the first place. But after actually taking the time to get to know some girls, I have found that I don't even have the desire to date another GG.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraHarden_TS
Fortunately for me I am not affraid to be seen in public with my current girlfriend, but there was a time that I would pay a girl for sex because I was too affraid to be seen in public with a T-girl. I got the cock and an empty pocket as well LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraHarden_TS
You are totally correct about guys that would cheat on their wifes and it is totally to hire an escort of any kind, weather it be a GG a T-girl or even a guy, but I'm sure that is what a lot of men do.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraHarden_TS
You are right about this too, and unfortunately there are not enough TS's out there and there should be more. TS's are very rare and unique and if a guy is lucky enough to find a nice girl, he should keep her. I have treid to imagine what it would be like to be without my GF and it is a very difficult thing to think about. So for now, I'm keeping her forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraHarden_TS
BTW, I once told my old GF that all TS's were angles and they are just here being tested before they get their wings ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraHarden_TS
Good. leave me alone you hideous fucking freak. Now. tomorrow, in three years, etc. I never said a fucking word to you then or now untill you started your shit with me. Mind your own fucking business and learn to keep that ugly fucking trap shut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
I've met plenty of people who have big dicks of both genders (male and ts) Ive met plenty of people who are just big dicks regardless. I've only met a couple of T/S who aren't complete cunts (I havent met that many)
Lisa Kage was one of them and that was why I loved her. She could have been female and I still would have fallen for her. So nothing else came into it. It was a persona combined with good looks, which is normally why one falls in love, at least that is how it works for me.
So have to take issue with some of your comments on your original posting, but thats just me, that's not to say some of the points you mentioned don't apply to alot of guys, I am sure that they do.
Its pathetic bastards like u that make girls like me bitches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killah
A punk like you would neva fuck me without payin FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See that why we get our money first! I'll keep it on the low as long as you keep my bank account fat! I was just in my homeland of PR and met a wonderful guy. We went everywhere as a NORMAL couple. He proved that there is hope and assholes like you are not the only option for us. Now guys and dolls, you see my point!Quote:
Originally Posted by trannyfaulker
Thats why I get the money up front! Fair is fair. U see me as a chick with a dick, and that comes with a feeQuote:
Originally Posted by Killah
When I find him, I would love and respect him. I am 35 years old, I have been living and struggling in this lifestyle for 14 years. I have loved, taken care of and looked after guys who just used me. The only things I have to show for the hell I live is money, designer clothes and shoes and a cold broken heart. I can't lie and say good men don't exsist. I was in 2 long term loving relationships. So I know it can happen Just rare. Yet I still give a few guys a fair chance. The guy you described, I met him once, and was with him 2 years. But due to his family and their living situation in this country, and such, he had to go. So yes, I know he exsists, and no there would be nothing nasty to say. It is what it isQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny partridge
Vanessa's in the House !!!!! Everybody say Hell Yeah!!!!
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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69
trannyfaulker said,So what benefits would the girls get? What girl wants to be fuck-buddy to with a shit with a nasty attitude and a mouth to match? Look if you want a no strings attached, professional relationship, that costs money. If you want a friend or a lover, that will cost you a certain emotional investment and a commitment of time and honest attention.Quote:
I ain't paying for shit. Suck my ass. I luv T-girls, but I don't want to be a husband or u be my wife. Why can't we just be fuck buddies or good friends with benefits?...
AMEN! Thas why he jackin off to our pics, cuz he cheap and shitty!Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
2 reasons I WONT pay for it:
1- The prices have gotten way too high.
2- The risk of disease is way too high. 8)
TsVanessa69,Quote:
Originally Posted by TsVanessa69
First off good evening.
There are a few guys in this forum, like myself would give a tgirl the same chance as a genetic girl, if they would give us a chance to prove it. The guys who posted that they won't pay, or just use the tgirls as sex objects, makes you & the other tgirls feel bitter. I can understand why you feel the way you do. I feel bad that you feel this way, but there is always someone out there for somebody. I really believe that. See my quotes below that I wrote to Felicia recently on this topic a few pages back & you will get an understanding about me & how I feel about tgirls in general. I am a guy that wants to develop a relationship with a tgirl or genetic girl, but my shyness makes me lose out. I want to say so much when I meet her, but the words never come out the way I want them to.
Like I said, there are many great guys here in this forum like myself, are willing to date a tgirl & are not afraid to take them out in public. We want to shower love & respect to our woman, take them to a nice quiet dinner, give them gifts to show our affection to say that "I care", & telling her you love her. I'm a hopeless romantic, you can say. :)
I wanted to express this in my reply to you because I want to be completely honest. Yes, Charlie is my real name too.... :)
Take care.
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Originally Posted by Charlie31
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Originally Posted by Charlie31
Good to know guys like yo and my friend Omar in Puerto Rico exsist, because they are so rare you can count them on 1 hand. Thanks for speakin out
TsVanessa69,
You're welcome & glad I was able to share my feelings about the way I feel about women. Unfortunately, it seems that with myself being nice, it turns off a few women. I cannot understand that, but at least I know in my heart that I treated them with respect & can go to sleep at night knowing I feel the way I do. Hope that you & Omar work out.
He is a lucky guy to have someone as nice as you.
How I know, I read many of your posts here & you come across as someone who is sincere.
Stay the way you are, you will meet the guy you want. I hope that Omar will be that guy for you. Age is not a concern, if he treats you the way you should be treated, then you are lucky to have someone that will get you love & respect that all women want.
I wish nothing but the best for you.
Take care.
Fuck that, if i can cheat with a girl for free, ima cheat with a tranny for free!!!!!
Gotta agree with Trish. No strings rutting costs money, more substantial relationship based costs time, effort and true commitment. I certainly know which I prefer.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
I'm never going to pay just for sex. Being with a TS is one my fantasies and if that doent's happen without money then it wont.
Yes, Yes, move to the Jersey shore . . . come to me . . . lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Alyssa87
Yeah, but the question is, “Who’s willing to pay for your sexual attentions?” I’m not. Your fellow males, if not you, who are willing to pay for sex have created a market. Since there are very very few girls who are willing to pay for sex, it’s a suppliers market.Quote:
If you gettin payed for it then I should too.
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You gettin and giving dick just like me.
Where’s the profit in that? You’re just talkin’ communism, pure and simple.
:)
If you’re a man, no strings sex will generally cost you money. If you found a fuck buddy who’s only interested in sex, more power to you. However, I’m guessing that most fuck-buddy relationships are unstable and will either evolve into something more, or else disintegrate because one of the parties will eventually want more.
Tranie and other girls not willing to pay? Oh I don't know about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
It is common knowledge that TS and even GG girls on the game will give discounts and or even go for free to men they find attractive. In pure accounting terms, since one earns one's whole or entire living from prossing, by discounting and or giving away a service, you are "paying" in that a credit is extended without a debit to balance.
Now before there is much gashing of teeth and cries of outrage, girls know that it is true, and the guys know it is true that if the latter is the right "type", he can gain all sorts of advantages over say someone the girl does not fancy.
Guys call up girls all the time asking for discounts and such from the stated rates. Even in clubs or parties where a girl tells one guy her price is "X", if a young hot, bodybuilding, white, or whatever floats her boat type steps up, there is a good chance she will go for free or at least a discount, which includes by the way not watching the clock.
Now girls will counter, 'oh well that is my choice...." but that arguement simply reinforces what the above poster states: sex is for mutual gratification, and if one should get paid so should the other.
"Where is the profit in that?"
Indeed, but then again if one were working for a service or pimp, the rate would be the rate weather the man was Godzilla or Usher, or whatever hot stud floats one's boat.
Does anyone really give a fuck about this?
True enough, but it would've been even more accurate had you said, "... girls on OCCASION will give discounts and or even go for free to men they find attractive." Hence your observation is really no threat to the market explanation of what's going on here. Yeah, sometimes a guy's got what a girl is wanting. But not every discount is given for that reason alone. The hour, the selection of other prospective customers and a slew of other factors could be in play. I'm surprised at how many men here are against the profit principle when it comes to sex but claim to despise communism in other contexts. :)Quote:
It is common knowledge that TS and even GG girls on the game will give discounts and or even go for free to men they find attractive.
Kira,
Your comments are very accurate. However there are a few of us out here who know who we are and accept who we are. I must admit I have had only a handful of relationships with some very attractive TS ladies. More often then not I wanted to take the relationship further but do to the work that they were in "Porn" it did not happen for what ever the reason.
Some other guys spend the time sneaking around and trying to fool themselves about wanting to be with another guy. A few may even become violent after their first experience with a TS after realizing what they have done. This does absolutely nothing for the rest of us out here who adore TS ladies and would like to spend time with them before and after jumping each others bones. As hard as it is to find a lady like this then spend a little time trying to figure out if there are similar likes and dislikes.
The hardest problem I have ever had is finding areas where TS like to be as attraction takes care of itself. Some TS are so sexy it is hard to realize they could even be considered a TS. But when it comes down to it and a opportunity presents itself with every thing working out, then turn them on as much as possible. After that everything else will take care of itself.
More power to you, friend. It's not impossible, as I've met several Ts in earlier years (And one IS) and gained valuable friendships from them. Not all turned into intimate relationships/flings though, but that is the luck of the draw in any relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by keerto
As is often said, there are deeper issues than 'just sex' in a lot of these encounters. (Oh, and before you gurls all jump on the bandwagon of 'I'll only charge you $150 an hour to just chat and have dinner', it's not =that= simple). Some of us pay-to-play with no more reason than to get through an intimate encounter without getting repeatedly shot through the heart. Does the event fulfill a fantasy? Of course. Do we get our nut popped? You betcha! Is paying for sex the only way we can get laid? Relative.
The we-pay/no-pay battle of wits will wage on forever and a day with each side taking the moral high ground at every opportunity. It's an argument that has no true 'right side' and never will.
KiraHarden_TS i agree with u !
It's hard to find a man, sometimes i think that i'm just a fantasy, Angelina never had a bf yet, i wanna be in love lol
Trish,
I am always amazed at your eloquence, and control you exhibit when addressing comments posted on various boards. ie ... WOW!
I wish I could do that! :claps