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AMEN!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts
i see gay ppl
Oh yes and Xfiver since we are on the subject of photoshopped pics Before and after...Lance.Trebor touched this pic up. The before is before touch ups. Since I've had surgeries I really don't mind sharing these pics anymore. All you do is stand in front of a window and my chair in my room was right by a window and you take it with a webcam and you can get this effect.
and this one is from that same photo log taken back in the day when I still lived in FloridaQuote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
what i see is that you are using another persons gender dysphoria to realize your latent homosexual desires. and that morally speaking you've attached some pretty negative ideas to the concept of homosexuality so it's more comfortable for you to scrutinize and ridicule the actions of others than to engage in an introspective look at your own actions which you yourself clearly find suspect. i believe you have a god-given right to do these things but i will challenge you because your position is irrational, emotionally based and possibly harmful to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts
No dumbass I like to fuck real people and not illusions, god you are so fucking stupid :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashysmashY
Seriously why don't you go fuck a doll with that guys wig and clothes on, as it seems they are the only defining factors in your attraction to him!
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Originally Posted by lust4ts
You people realize that there are more variations and gradations in life than either CD= GAY and TS= STRAIGHT, don't you???
Just because someone is not "fulltime" doesn't mean they are not somewhere on that scale of transsexualism. Sometimes people have valid reasons for not being able to transition.
You assume the person takes the clothes off and is happy to see their male self in the mirror. Unless you know what is inside that person's heart, you shouldn't assume anything such as that.
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MOre nontouched up pics for you Xfiver prior to my surgeries
Totally, if that person decided to transition then I would not see an attraction to him as being gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
It has already been said that he only dresses up for shoots, so that kind of says it all.
You say what the fuck you want, I have no interest in being with someone who is not real, besides if someone truly felt like a women inside, they would let nothing stop them being who they want to be, that circumstances thing is just a copout!
Look its not about looks to me, but rather a commitment to being a female, i could not live with myself knowing that the person I find attractive at a certain time has a whole other life as a male.
look i was kind of just kidding about that last post so dont get your panties in a bunch ok. but you've clearly set up an arbitrarily based system to validate your actions.
I will start to worry when you talk about me in panties, who knows what sort of thoughts might be running through your mind :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashysmashY
Seriously I have nothing against people who are into CD's, but I will say this for anyone who can not define the difference between being attracted to them and Transwomen, then YES you are fucking stupid!
More pics for you to hate on Xfiver me nontouched up you can even see my old adams apple in the pic
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Originally Posted by lust4ts
First off, I am not talking about the person in the video. Don't know who it is, don't care either.
It's really easy to sit back in your chair and make grand, sweeping statements like "If they really felt that way, nothing would stop them". In real life, it's different sometimes. What if the person had a medical condition that made taking hormones extremely dangerous? What if that person had no chance of passing? What if that person didn't have the money saved up yet? (Oh, and not every TS wants to get all their money from porn and hooking.) What if that person had others depending on them?
You are sitting there defining what you want as what is gay and what isn't. Fine, but then don't define someone else's gender idenity for them either.
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I thought it was Jamie Austin thats the only reason I decided to post that in the thread lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
please look up the word objective. then tell me the difference between these two statements.
a male is born with a y chromosome
a woman feels like a woman inside
then go mull that over and when i return tomorrow i want you to be able to tell me what's wrong with your position.
First off the thread is about that person in the video, so it is kind of on point. But anyway I do see those points, and admit to probably looking past them, I would feel very sorry for those people, and kind of am honest about not knowing how I would view them in society.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
I would hope that they would find someone who understands them and loves them.
But I will stand by my point, my posts have been aimed at those guys here who can not define the difference between a crossdresser and a ts, just because someone looks OK in a wig does not make them transgender.
It is like I have my picture up, those guys have no interest in me, but if I managed to look hot in a wig and makeup it would somehow make it less gay to find me attractive! It would just be an illusion and not something that is real!
Least those people that you speak of truly feel it inside, most of the guys here would fuck a tree if was wearing a dress and that is why they are gay!
What if I'm attracted to BOTH CD's and TS's? does that make me BI? If yes, am I a "better" person for being BI rather than Gay?
Yes that makes you BI, and that is cool, at least you see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by thx1138
I'm sure you can fatham that apart from those rare cases that TBTS spoke of, most CD's are not that person you see in the picture or video, a realisation that many guys at this site seem to miss completely!
First off, let me say that those "untouched" pics of you Kelly, "old" adams apple and all, are smoking hot. To me anyway. WOW!!!! Love them. But does that mean I'm gay because I like you with that lump in your........throat? Bet I'd like the "new" adams apple too. Then I'm straight again. Hallelujah!!!!! Praise Jesus!
Truthfully I don't like this thread because, it's not because I think you're all wrong, because I do (except for True Beauty that nails it). It's because everyone has such enthusiasm for splitting hairs and "definitions." I thought I liberated myself of such scrutiny. Don't consider myself gay. Love TS girls. My current girl (s) (both fucking hookers) one GG one TS......same exact problems. One London, one here in Vegas.....same problems. Both prefer anal....same problems. I hate them both equally and don't know the difference. The GG is tougher.......makes me feel more gay I guess. That gorgeous and flawless TS.....so much the fem makes me feel more macho......I think. I DON'T KNOW!!!!! And that's why I love the world we've chosen. I'm not a closet case. I go with it. Don't consider myself gay but I kind of feel a twinge here and there when I was in the presence of a couple of crossdressers. Didn't even know or care until it was pointed out.
This slim point was brought on to an exception taken by Kelly kind of calling it all gay. It was. So what. It's not a branding iron and out in public I hope she's more tactful. If not I'd still take her home and fuck her. Because she's a hot girl that's funny and fun and I'm gay I guess. But she doesn't make me feel that way.LOL
I love you guys. Peace on earth here.
whats the difference between wearing a wig ,makeup and wearing breasts implants? or silicone in your butt or hips or cheeks.
The point is it is OK to be gay, it is not a swear word. I happen to believe that liking crossdressers makes you gay, because underneath they are mostly simply men who take pleasure in dressing that way. And liking Transwomen does not make you gay because they can be and really are women. Black and white, I know, but that is how I see it!
Brenda again you are basing it on LOOKS being a transexual IS IN THE MIND!!!!!!!!!!
even if they look like a butch ts
huh?
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
Yes ma'am!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsbrenda
so why do every one call them men in drag cause there not physically passable?
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
I've never, if they identify as a woman. A woman is a woman, it's between the ears that matters!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsbrenda
so would you date a FTM who identifies as a HE?
BUT STILL HAS A VAGINA AND BREAST?
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
If I was attracted to him then yes, but I have not came across any female to males I have been attracted to.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsbrenda
jaime austin
makeup artist work
http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/bambi008_103.jpg
check out the video below
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...nelID=10149749
jaime austin is a great makeup artist his profile below
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=10149749
dont stop short of the fun hunny your part of the crew :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
12 post and counting* :wink:
YOU MAKE ME LUST !!! :P :PQuote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
http://www.polyfro.com/images/40yearold-1.jpg
You know how i know you're gay?
You gave me a reach around when you mounted me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr1hee4by6c
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wow sexi boy and pretty girl
it has nothing to do with not seeing the point it has to do with disagreeing. if a person wants to base their sexual orientation on their beliefs or the beliefs of another person instead of their actions and biology somewhat in this fashion:Quote:
Originally Posted by GIA LOVES RON
person1: i believe that i’m a woman
person2: good because i believe that i’m heterosexual when i sleep with you
then do it. but i don’t subscribe to it. another persons beliefs and feelings are
A: not measurable or verifiable
B: subjective
and
C: subject to change
believing you are a tree doesn’t make acorns come out of your ass and it doesn’t make the person who fucks you a lumberjack either. so if you want to say who’s gay or not i’m going to say i think you are all gay and my contention is just as valid as yours and even more so because while yours was based on perceived reality mine exists independently of beliefs or feelings. do you get that? even if my saying that you are gay was based on nothing but my belief it would still hold equal validity with your judgment because your judgment is belief based too.
i don’t base my self-perception on another person’s beliefs and i don’t need to and even if i felt i did need to i wouldn’t do it because it’s stupid.
but to be fair you also know that just b/c someone is crossdressing doesnt mean they want to be women and that its nothing more then just a sexual fetish... i have TWO ex-bf's that both get extremely turned on when they crossdress but NEITHER want to be women... thats why i feel when a guy fights to claim that EVERY CD is just a TS that hasnt transitioned is GAY... thats HIS insecurities projected onto the CD to make the guy feel better about finding the "girl" attractive... its really well explained in that force fem video by the author of the book about prison rape... he says that guys need to see the man they are having sex w/ as much as women as they can to help them get as far away from the mentality that they are having "gay sex"Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
not every cd wants to become ts... and id say looking at the boy in that video... w/ a goatee and short hair ... he is FINE w/ being a man
guys that ACTUALLY date ts women know the difference...
guys that live in a fantasy like to pretend that every man in a makeup is a woman...
the reality is that they are just men in makeup...
yes and they know it based on their feelings which are subjectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by tsntx