Pretty women and tgirls can have a double standards! I know I have and have known other women and tgirls doing just that before..So more power to us! Hehe.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
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Pretty women and tgirls can have a double standards! I know I have and have known other women and tgirls doing just that before..So more power to us! Hehe.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
Well Vicki, in a way your position does seem rather odd, in that you don't mind your guy doing it with as many g-women as he wants as long as he leaves other pre-op t-women (and guys for that matter) alone. I can understand that perhaps the g-women are a little bit less threatening as far as you're concerned (and is that your reason? You don't have to say if you don't want to), but the thought that comes to my mind is this: if/when you do choose to have The Operation, what if your man were to decide that no matter what your other qualities are, a surgically-made vagina is never going to be as satisfying to him as would the real thing?
This I ask out of curiosity about your views in this case, not out of criticism. I'm not trying to get you to change your mind about your current anatomy and what you choose to do with it or anything like that.
Hmmm this sounds like a great deal. You have your tgirl wife but can go cheat on her with a bunch of GG's? Hmmm, this is interesting... hahaha sounds like a pretty good arrangement!
i wouldn't call it cheating if it is condoned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dengoza
Where do I put in my application? LOL. But in all seriousness, I can understand what you mean, and I just think its your preference for the type of guys you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
[quote="muhmuh"]That reminds me of an old joke. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hondarobot
Actually, I just thought of a more interesting tangent to spin off into, and it's not really related to anything at all.
Many years ago, back when it was still somewhat cool for a (at the time) stoner malcontent to work at an uptown indie video store (which I was and I did), a regular customer of mine came in one night and gave me a book about magic.
The customer was an aspiring writer (aka bartender) and had a day job at a local Kinkos. Apparently someone had dropped off a lengthy manuscript for copying and it turned out to be some wacked out "Terrence McKenna type" treatise on the occult. The customer I knew made an additional copy and brought it down to the store for me to check out, because he knew I had a habit of calling bullshit on just about everything. And bullshit it was (as far as I could tell, honestly, how could a "magic book" not be bullshit?).
Anyhow, it was pretty weird. Not "satanic" sort of stuff, just rambling nonsense, random language shifts, strange I Ching type pictographs, all kinds of stuff. I had no idea what it was all about. That didn't stop me from reading through it while I smoked cigarettes behind the store counter and ignored most of the customers.
As I was doing this, an old, non-descript man came up to rent a movie. He saw what I was reading, scanned a bit of the text, and asked:
"Is that Cyrillic? I see you like languages."
I knew the term Cyrillic refered to that crazy Russian type alphabet, so I said:
"Sure looks like it to me, I haven't really figured out what the hell it is exactly."
Oddly enough, the guy thought this to mean that I was pouring over the text trying to decipher it's origin, while I was actually just completely baffled by the whole thing and really stoned. He thought I was some sort of foreign language enthusiast slacker/genius.
To make a long story short, the guy was a multi-millionaire who had pioneered an advance in cancer research. Because of that strange twist of fate, just because I was reading that kooky book at that time and that place, I ended up being employed by the guy for three years. I scored an awesome apartment, became the caretaker for several buildings in the upscale Kenwood area of south Minneapolis (Josh Hartnett is one of the neighborhoods current residents), went to parties at swanky mansions, fucked the rich guys accountant/landlord's sister, eventually lost the job, then got booted out of my cool apartment and headed downtown with my two cats stuck in a laundry basket.
It makes me wonder, what if I hadn't been reading that book at that time? Small little moments can result in interesting dynamics.
Oh, but back to the current topic, guys who want to get fucked in the ass. Well, I guess that's what they wanna do, but who cares? I really don't think I'd like being topped, myself.
The worst part would be that I'm sure ts girls would enjoy topping me so much, I'd end up having to go into hiding! I have strange sexual powers that women find arousing, regardless of the situation.
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(Ha! How many of you poor bastards actually read through this whole thing?)
[quote="a994"]This is, to me, a strange, and ultimately disastrous position to take in a relationship, particularly if you have hopes of it going anywhere. It is also one of the reasons I have such deep reservations about entering into another relationship with a tgirl... It seems, from my experiences, that many girls are confused about a great number of things, making it hard to figure out, for example, how she'll interpret what you say to her, what state of mind she'll be in five minutes from now, etcetera. I know that isn't the case with all tgirls, and again I'm just speaking from my experiences. Bottom line, if a girl said to me what Vicki's saying, I wouldn't believe her, and sure as hell wouldn't act on it. How many times must a man get into the infamous "I never said that" fight with a woman before he starts to recognize the set-up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
I did, fucker! You owe me a beer when I'm in Mipple City next time.Quote:
(Ha! How many of you poor bastards actually read through this whole thing?)
Thus is the argument of the poly. :shrugQuote:
i wouldn't call it cheating if it is condoned.
It's not "cheating" if it's not in the rules.
Haha! Once again, though, a 100% true story. I've had an odd life. I bet most people here don't believe I have a ripped towel once worn by a dripping wet, mostly naked Vicki Richter.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardedOne
But I do. Oh, and it's not for sale.
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You rent it, it's more profitable that way. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by hondarobot
Not this story again... It never ends well when the "ripped towel" story once again rises from the ashes. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by hondarobot
Hmm..Not to me! Haha Sorry Deng, that wouldnt fly. LOL ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dengoza
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Yeah, I thought that was a little over the top... I didnt sign up yet. And anyways, whats the point of being in love if youre not so in love that you are looking for extracurricular activities...
I havent officially announced any positions/openings just yet. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Dengoza
Co-sign! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dengoza
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Hara, what's with the new pic?? I mean you're cute as usual and all but....good lord, my eyes!
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LOL I just got bored with my dainty Av Dkg. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Dkg
I'll bring dainty back just for you. ;)
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:wink: thank you beautiful
ah, there we go. Much better
I found a nice quote from a TS woman, named Angelica Love Ross:
In my transsexual teens, I believed that the only man for me was a “straight” man. I believed in order to obtain true happiness in a relationship, I’d have to make him fall in love with me first, then he’d say my being transsexual doesn’t matter to him, and we’d live happily ever after behind closed doors. If his family came to visit, I’d cleverly dodge questions about marriage and pregnancy. If his friends came over to watch the Super bowl, I’d make sure that I’d look as feminine as possible so they could never guess my dirt, even if my voice slipped into another octave. Ah, to be in love! After getting a dose of exactly what I fantasized about, I discovered how much I was downplaying myself, for another man’s image. I looked around me only to find no one who really knew me. I learned that I really didn’t love myself completely, because if I did, I would never allow anyone to make me feel I needed to dim my God given light. I vowed right then, and there, to never be anyone’s dirty little secret.
yes! that's beautiful. beautiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by yodajazz
You are welcome Dkg. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dkg
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Well I am also a very demanding lover sexually. I don't think most men would have any stamina to go find many women while in a relationship with me. I prefer getting fucked at least twice a day.
But yes I totally feel that while I am escorting and having sex on camera, I cannot demand faithfulness from my partner. It's like a stripper telling her boyfriend that he can't go to strip clubs.
For those of you saying this is odd or strange, think about swingers. There are guys who are swingers who love seeing their spouse get fucked by groups of men. There are swingers who love only each other, but fuck a lot of different people. I am just saying fuck who you want, but come home to me, love only me, and give me what I need when I need it.
I don't like seeing guys take dick from guys. I feel that a lot of guys, perhaps more so on the bottom guy side, use TS as training wheels for gay sex. There are some who might settle for GG's with strap on's, but many guys will graduate to gay sex because of their pressing need for cock in their mouth and ass and the fact that TS cost too much to get it at the frequency they need. I receive 5-10 emails a week from guys professing they want to be my slave and want to be feminized to pleasure whomever I want. These guys are looking for an excuse to take cock... not just my girl cock, but any cock. This is a healthy fantasy, but it isn't what I want in a relationship.
I think most TS women (or real women) want a man who is mostly or completely "all man" from a societal norm perspective. This should be obvious, but the adult industry makes it appear otherwise. (again, I say MOST, not all).
And the most unqualified poster of the day is,... me.
But here goes anyway.
I’ve never dated a t-girl much less had sex with one. This is for several reasons which, I hope by the end of this post, will have something to do with the topic.
First off, I don’t really meet all that many (that I am aware of). I don’t live in Manhatten or frequent any place where t-girls tend to congregate.
Of the few that I have met, there have been some issues. First off, as a couple of the ladies replied, they are in the sex business. I wouldn’t date anyone in the sex business whether she was GG ( a term I just figured out from the context about 15 minutes ago ) or Ts, or Martian. I have this weird hangup about my woman fucking other people. I don’t know what percentage of Ts woman are into that sort of thing, but it does weigh on my mind
Another thing I have noticed is the distinct lack of Ts girls who wear sneakers and T-shirts. I’m a simple meat-and-potatoes kind of guy. When I say “Hey, you wanna go catch a movie?” I prefer not to wait 4 hours for her to get ready. I looked at some of the pictures of girls from the “Tranny Tuesdays” posts and man,... they look mighty nice. But this is how I’m used to seeing T-girls dress, and it all looks very high maintenance. If someone were to come to my apartment looking like that, the neighbors would think I called an escort service.
The other thing is this whole “community”. I just don’t feel the need to support or be involved in much outside of the well being of my family and loved ones. I figure as long as I’m not bashing anyone or getting down on them, I don’t owe anyone. After all, we would never have needed a civil rights movement if there was no prejudice in the first place. I don’t understand all of this terminology and don’t know why I would have to. Every relationship is going to have it’s problems, no matter what kind of relationship it is. God knows I’ve been through my fair share of nonsense with so called “normal” women. Is it not enough to like the person that I am with and just care about what she wants personally? Must I also have some intimate knowledge of the community she is in and all of it’s idiosyncracies? A community is after all - other people- and I’m of the mind that other people have nothing to do with my personal relationships. The highs and lows of my relationships are between me and her.
Now, as far as Ts women looking for straight guys or “tops” (another term I learned today) From my perspective it makes perfect sense. I don’t like men. I’m a guy, and I’m straight. My brain is wired in such a way that I like women. There’s no changing that, I am what I am. This applies to more than just the way someone looks, although, looks are important in that regard. Women walk a ceratin way, talk a certain way, and think a certain way. I am attracted not only to the curves of a woman’s body, but to the feminine nature of her mind. So, if what I have read through a lot of these boards is right,.. Ts women have brains that are wired as women. Naturally then, many would be looking for a man who walks, talks, and thinks like a man. Not that gay men aren’t men, just that a Ts may very well have the mindset of a straight woman, and straight men do not act the same way as gay men.
Everyone seems to be hung up on the word preference. I don’t think that’s the issue. If you are gay, you’re gay. It’s not like you flipped a coin and chose it. It’s who you are. A ts woman who feels as a straight woman is no different. We do not choose what we are. The most we can do is be the best of who we are.
Sorry this was so long.
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This thread ties with Ladies, What Do You Consider "Gay"?
wow, now even you peggygee ! have fallen victim of the new HA-trend of resurrecting (relatively) dromant threads!Quote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
well, i ve been guitly of that myself so :P
If I would be given a dollar each time I heard someone say that, especially from girls, I'd have an entire army of gold robots by now. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck
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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
~Butt-head voice~ I love you....uh huh huh huh....uh...huh huh huh.
I think most of us guys that like TS girls enjoy that they or are turned on by the fact they have a dick. If you don't like dick, you would want a genetic woman--stop kidding yourselfs. A guy has to pretty dumb not to know he is dating a TS. Props to all of you beautiful TS girls.
ok here we go
this is a statement as well as a confession rolled into one.
first the confession part: I initially got interested in TS because of my sexual preference. I like anal-sex, on the active part (a "bunghole-buddy" - prpbably as bad as the "cock-bandit"...). with natural born women its very often a hassle to knock on her backdoor.
but, beeing a good boy (or trying to appear as one) I did my homework, and since I ve been always into outsiders of our beloved "mainstream" culture, that was another factor i steered towards the "T-community" (whatever that is....but i know it exists).yes, i am aware that there are many TS that want to blend in with mainstream. kudos to them. but the mainstream can live without me very well...
but my affection with the t-realm has nothing to do with sympathy, or fantasy. its what i learned to enjoy and like, with all its downsides and sources of enjoyment. and heck, i like those contradictions that come with it.
and I realized that is what i like. call it "the life" ....
I know where you are coing from Whatsupwithat. if you are candid with the fact you like TS, you are easily labelled "chaser", even if you - which i am sure are sincere as it can get - but i am so damn sure as well the girls KNOW that you arent one of the creepy chaser types. for a sincere guy the ladies hearts are BIG, BIG, BIG.
as for the sex-part:
I have been intimate with two TS so far, and in both cases i never touched their plumbing. Oral was me diving into her backdoor toungue-wise. I dont state that to appear "better" than others who are versatile or bottoms. thats just my preference and experience.
as for my current status:
i recently moved to a rural area and left big city life behind me. so, the "scene" is no option for me any longer.
I would not be reluctant to tell a TS that ive been with some before. why shouldnt I - if she asks. I assume that if more guys would cut the crap and dump the "dirty little secret" thing, be out and about with TS without shame, yeah that would be great. I am afraid it wont happen too soon tho. It takes sacrifice for anybody involved within the "community" but its worth it.
you dont have to be an activist to support "the community" (as diverse as it is, yet there IS a common ground) you can achieve this simply by standing up for your girls. you dont have to scream it into anybodys face, just pls dont deny what you like.
If youre a NoBullshitGuy, youll get no Bullshit from others....
Why should it be anyone elses business? Why cast that burden upon ourselves? I don't see the need to do it openly unless you're in a relationship. Its no different to me than a guy being open to everybody about details about his sex life. Some things are meant to be kept private. Just like one-night-stands with women.
I love women who only date straight..it's the only ones I like
We have something in common...Quote:
Originally Posted by mbf
My number one reason for wanting to be involved with a TS is I am a lover of anal sex and getting it from GG's is like pulling teeth.
I'm not looking for some T girl to drill me in the backdoor, that's off limits, I am not DOWN for that one bit.
Oral I look at it as well: I eat pussy, so what's the difference???
I don't want to get deeply involved in "the life" its just not me, but where else am I suppose to meet these women???
Personal Sites are way too hit and miss, so like with anything you have to attack from all directions, I'm just not focusing on it.
Its just nice to see I'm not alone out here.....
I haven't read all of this. But I will do my best to explain the reasoning.
A transsexual, even if they currently have no desier for SRS knows it is always possible they will change their mind. Anyone who is really honest with themselves recognizes this.
Say they are with a man who is only into "chicks-with-dicks", they get all involved with him, date him, or even marry/domestic partner with him.... What happens if she decides latter on to have SRS? The man will leave her.
Argue all you want but I have heard the stories of that happening enough times to know how that works.
So most of us protect our emotions by only getting invested in men who will love us for WHO WE ARE. Get it? We are who we are regardless of whatever apendages we have.
I personally have not heard of a TS who found a man who loved her for who she was who knew she was a transsexual from the start. Every married TS I know of who is married to a man hid the fact she was TS from him for some time.
Understand?