not true. i grew up in a black neighborhood, went to a black school. i did hear the term "black" used a lot, but "African-American" was up there as well.Quote:
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you are right, though. i think it is more a media term...
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not true. i grew up in a black neighborhood, went to a black school. i did hear the term "black" used a lot, but "African-American" was up there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabuki
you are right, though. i think it is more a media term...
so, none of the rutgers basketball players were born in the united states?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
That could be the prozac at work you lunatic,please crawl back under the rock you came out of.Don't stick your nose in subjects you know nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
Again you don't know what the fuck your talking about just because you grew up around african american people that doesn't make you a expert in their culture,what respectful african american person would refer to another as a black,thats a term made up by people like you who know nothing of the culture and is meant to be used as an insult.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Legend
All you guys are closet racist on here,the reason you question people like sharpton and jackson because deep inside you hate what they stand for they provide help to poor african americans who have been discriminated against.
I'm sure many of you have said the n word before in your life or said something meant as a racial insult but are never called out because people around you share the same racial beliefs.
You will never understand what african american people have been through so to ask any questions as to why that feel insulted is ridiculous,you can't ask why unless you have been what they have been through.
I question Jackson and Sharpton because they are men who wield significant power and have shown incredible hypocrisy in their statements and actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
Calling everyone who disagrees you with a racist is just plain ignorant. I have no idea what it's like to be black in America, but showing outrage over a benign, if not stupid, statement that some retarded disc jockey made is, if nothing else, a waste of resources and time, which could be spent on more pressing matters.
Tell me, as an african american, if you think this is an issue the Black community should be spending any time on.
BTW, Legend...has anyone ever called YOU a nappy-headed ho?
If not, please allow me to be the first...
Legend, you are most definitely a NAPPY-HEADED HO!
Let me see if I get this. According to you, recognizing the unequivocal hypocrisy of men like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, not to mention the extremely selective nature of their outrage, somehow equates to racism? Please tell me you aren’t that mind numbingly stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
Bottom line: yes, Imus is a complete ass, but the unavoidable fact is that Jackson – and Sharpton in particular – are of precisely the same character and should not be involved in this at all.
-Quinn
I won't stoop to your level of name calling but that right that shows your whole attitude towards this whole matter,you look at that reference as a joke.It doesn't affect me but try saying that to an african american face to face i'm sure he won't look at that as some sort of joke.That's the problem with guys like you and imus you think everything can be made into a joke until you get call out then you try to get serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
LMFAO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
Take you seriously, Legend?
It's never gonna happen.
But you did get one thing right....you are indeed a joke, Legend.
Pathetic you can't even address anything you have to threw a insult or two which shows that you either can't address the topic straight forward or your trying to hide something either way it shows that you are the joke rather them me,i address matters straight forward with my own thoughts and never try to hide them by insulting others or posting others work,so instead of insulting me give your own personal views on the subject,can you do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
Al knows nappy. Why do you think he goes so heavy on the pomade?
Apologies if you weren't. Your comment however, is an example of the "yeah, but" answer. (as in: Yeah it's wrong, but that's how it's always been done)Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
I just don't find that answer to be acceptable for the most part, and took it out on you.
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Originally Posted by Legend
I personally think that a jerry curl would suit Al much better...Quote:
Originally Posted by TJT
Same old thing from you chef funny pics with little or nothing to say.All you have done in this thread is post a couple of articles from huffington post and throw a lame joke in here,your character seems to have little substance whatsoever meaning you avoid real subjects with humor, i don't think jbwl posted this at first so you guys can poke fun at african american sterotypes.
You seem more like the retarded one,you can't post anything without displaying an idiotic picture or worse posting articles from other sites to express how you feel.So my freind unless you have something meaningful to say on the subject at hand on your own i don't have anything else to say to you.
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uhmmm....you do realize that you just contradicted what unisex and the others have said about the "african american" term, right?
oh, and thanks for backing me up...
Geez, you guys are all over the place.
I'd do a Rodney King here and say "can't we all just get along?" but chances are, that won't be happening anytime soon.
Shorthand: Imus is a douche for saying something THAT patently stupid. He's no spring chicken, he's been around the block and KNEW the possible (probable) consequences.
Simply put... Making blanket derogatory comments about people you don't know simply isn't cool.
In regards to free speech... Everyone is entitled to talk like a douchebag if they choose, just as everyone else is entitled to TREAT them like douchebags when they talk like one.
Race, nationality, creed or whathaveyou don't enter into it.
p.s. If you feel that Sharpton and Jackson are taking a free ride off of people's donations, well... don't send 'em any money. Simple pimple.
actually his hair is and has always been processed that way out of his respect for the late great James Brown, they had close ties in Sharpton's younger daysQuote:
Originally Posted by TJT
lol, daddy's of silver I tell ya.....................Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Asia
look had the roles been reversed and the caucasians were the ones brought over on slave ships to U.S. and sold as slaves to African settlers of the North American lands, whipped daily, given rations of the scraps of food leftover from their African owners, forced to work tons of hours picking cotton, raped by their African owners during the day/night, etc. I suppose you could whine about double-standards and get away with it, but ya just can't................
the topic of this thread was about IMUS; not about Al Sharpton and his processed hair, not about Jesse "keep hope alive" Jackson, not Ice "white women are hoes, but buy my 'are we there yet?' DVD" Cube.........
and I think we can all agree that IMUS fucked up...........
He called a group of basketball players that were WOMEN, and were not all African-American by the way, a bunch of nappy headed hoes. There are many nationalities of WOMEN on Rutgers female's basketball team. This really isn't a Black/White issue as it is more of a sexist issue, but that's my opinion.
Thank you,how this topic went from the discussion of a bigot like imus to questioning sharpton and jackson's character is beyond me people need to understand this is not a joking matter,if you haven't been through what others have been through you shouldn't joke about the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
No one is doubting that the history of the black person in AmeriKKKa has been rough...I totally agree as do about 95% of white folks in the US that slavery was a fucked up situation.Nothing anyone alive can reverse what happened.
Further personally I do not see color,as I have more latino,black and asian friends than I do white.Thats not a message or a choice,its just the way the cards have landed.For me each person is judged on their actions and person not based upon the pigment of their skin,nor their orgin of heritage.
However...I personally do not know of a single American,white,red,brown,black,yellow that has ever owned a slave(outside of a consensual alternative lifestyle...different thread).what was done centuries ago cannot be changed.What can be changed is what happens in the present tense.
I cannot begin to count how many times I have heard a white person say"I never owned a slave...why do blacks hate me" And while that maybe a broad generalizing statement it personaifies why racial tension continues to this day.
As long as black america continues to use slavery as a reason for their anti white behaviour,then the anti black comments and attitudes will continure...and vice/versa.
And while "the double standard" rationale might grate on some peoples nerves,it doesnt discredit the fact that a double standard exists.
When a black leader speaks out on behalf of black maerica its ok...if a white leader where to speak out specifically on WHITE folks...its racist.
When Cube calls white girls "caucazoid cave bitches" its a platinum record which leads to more $ in his wallet.when Imus says "nappy headed ho's" he gets fired and makes the headlines as a racist.
Neither side is right...both are fucked up attitudes,but for once I'd like to see an affirmation that there is indeed TWO sides to this story.As in all things in the universe...For every action there is a reaction,and one cannot stop one without stopping the other.
As MSNBC pulls plug, pressure mounts on Imus
BY VERNE GAY
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NBC Wednesday night dumped the simulcast of "Imus in the Morning" from its cable outlet, MSNBC, putting even greater pressure on CBS to make a decision about the future of its longstanding and profitable radio show.
In addition, Geico -- one of the program's most important advertisers -- confirmed to Newsday that it is "cancelling all of its national and local advertising connected with the Don Imus program."
The abrupt cancellation of the simulcast capped a brutal day for both CBS and embattled host Don Imus as he struggled to keep his job following his "nappy-headed hos" remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team last week.
Procter & Gamble -- one of the nation's leading advertisers and a longtime bellwether of advertising trends -- said late Tuesday it would drop sponsorship of "Imus in the Morning." That was followed by a veritable cascade of defections throughout the day, with cancellations by Aetna, Sprint Nextel and American Express.
Imus' radio show originates from WFAN-AM in Astoria and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both of which are managed by CBS Corp.
Insurance giant Aetna pulled its advertising on Monday. "We found his remarks to be offensive and inappropriate, and we have redirected our advertising to other programming," a spokeswoman said.
Perhaps the toughest development for Imus came from CBS itself, when board member Bruce S. Gordon -- a former NAACP president -- called on the broadcaster to fire Imus.
Reached at his home Wednesday night, Gordon said it "is premature" to suggest that the ad defections alongside his condemnation would lead to Imus' firing.
"Management has to do a very thorough assessment, and not just of what he said, but all the implications of the disciplinary actions considered to be appropriate. I certainly have taken my position, but feel equally that management has to do its due diligence."
In a statement, CBS reiterated that it would stand by the previously announced two-week suspension beginning Monday, while "during that time, CBS Radio will continue to speak with all concerned parties and monitor the situation closely."
Nonetheless, the network's flagship broadcast, "The CBS Evening News With Katie Couric" reported Wednesday night that there is "growing pressure inside CBS" to make a decision on Imus' long-term future.
According to the statement released by NBC News, the cancellation of the simulcast "takes into account many conversations with our own employees. What matters to us most is that the men and women of NBC Universal have confidence in the values we have set for this company. This is the only decision that makes that possible. Once again, we apologize to the women of the Rutgers basketball team and to our viewers. We deeply regret the pain this incident has caused."
MSNBC's decision could have an impact on CBS' decision about whether to keep "Imus in the Morning" on radio. The MSNBC venue has been a longstanding success for both NBC and CBS, with each outlet effectively reinforcing the other. CBS reported that the program represented $8 million in annual advertising revenue for MSNBC.
General Motors Corp., a significant advertiser on the show, said Wednesday that it was suspending its advertising but could resume it later. "This is a very fluid situation, and we'll just continue to monitor it as it goes forward when he returns to the air," according to a spokeswoman.
Office supply chain Staples Inc. has also said it would pull out, and Bigelow Tea said it was considering doing so. Imus' program is worth about $15 million to CBS Corp., according to The Associated Press.
Staff writers Keiko Morris, Tami Luhby and Carl MacGowan contributed to this story, which was supplemented with Associated Press reports.
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Most of us on this board have friends from a bunch of nationalities, and I can't speak for anyone else but my close friends have never owned slaves [there is my friend in the Hamptons but he says she is a maid so...]
it's not the point, this isn't a racial issue, it's easy for people to jump on board (Sharpton, Jackson, etc.) and say it is but the basketball team was composed of a few nationalities..................
Legend, good reply.................... it's nice to see companies protecting their client base
MSNBC Pulls Imus in the morning
I didnt want to weigh in on this but what MSNBC did is truly puzzling. I hope this open the eyes of complacent white people thruout this country. Black people are capable of things like this? It is amazing, I dont know how they get companies to listen to them. Rich white corporate America is shivering in their boots over this? Black folks comprise only 12.5 percent of the population in the country. Yet they can bring on a firing like this, over a few ill chosen words. Imus didnt even use the N-word! There is something very wrong here. I can only hope that the white majority open their eyes and says "we've had enough already"!! It just shouldnt be this way. Billion dollar corporations bend over backwards to please these black folks. When in reality, if blacks boycotted thier products, these companies would never tell the difference. Yet they listen to the minority.
Its mind boggling!!!!!!!!!!! Open your eyes, white people, or it will only get worse! Very much worse! :shock:
LMAO, just out of curiosity am I the only person that thinks IMUS referred to a bunch of good-standing collegiate women as ho's (aka prosititutes)???Quote:
Originally Posted by Kramer
or does everyone here think this was a racial thing?
JWBL, it was made into a racial thing by Sharp and jesse.
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Originally Posted by Kramer
Go crawl back under the rock you came from and keep your racist bullshit to yourself,we all know what your about!
It in my opinion WAS intended as a racist comment,and if that were ever in doubt as soon as Jesse and Al chimed in it totally erased any doubtsQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
youre an asshole Legend!
Are you really that stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kramer
And that coming from a racist bastard who threaten to e-beat up a member of this board LOL i truly feel hurt now go crawl back under you rock and cut the internet tough guy image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kramer
This paragraph sums it up in a nutshell. It is a sexist comment. Imus fucked up. These young girls did not deserve this characterization. They're 18 to 22. Imagine your daughter characterized as a ho at the proudest moment of your daughter's achievement. THAT IS WHAT HE (IMUS) SHOULD BE CHASTISED FOR!Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
Fucking Jackson and Sharpton should also be chastised for turning this into a Race issue. If anyone deserves to be called 'nappy headed hos' it's those two. They'll jump on anything to get their face in the media. Same as all our shithead white politicians. They are hos, they see an openning and jump on it....to get their face on camera. They start a race war when there wasn't one.
Stop this idiotic black/white drivel. It's 'I'm gonna get my face on camera by jumping on the bandwagon'.
By the way Legend, I was confused for moment, your previous frog avatar had me thinking you were LG, thus I retracted my fag comment. Now I realize your the fucking idiot Legend and I retract my retraction....You faggot!
Send an email to Jackson and Sharpton maybe they'll come to your defense. Same as they stepped up when a 90 year old white woman was cold cocked by a verile black buck in her foyer in NYC a month ago. If you want to be a leader you have to be heard on all the issues not just the ones that advance your position.
Sorry JWBL to advance my opinions off your post.
last time I checked I have never heard of any other race referred to as "nappy headed" other then blacks.
The term "ho" was coined by black rappers
As much as members here seem to want to deny the racial implications...to me its quite obvious that race is indeed the issue at hand.
"Why do blacks hate me"Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Asia
I didn't know all black people hated white people. And for the ones that do hate white people, you do realize how black people are treated? I can understand their feelings, although I may not agree with them. There is a racial divide in the states, and you just can't say...work it out black man. The world just doesn't work like that. We need a dramatic social change to take place. There are black people trying to make a change, but it's a battle that you just can't comprehend it seems. The black community as a whole is not complaining about slavery either. Our community has modern issues to deal with. I respect you as a person, but you don't understand what is truly going on. We need discussions about this in the media, but the media prefers to push stereotypes instead.
"if a white leader where to speak out specifically on WHITE folks...its racist."
What kind of speaking out are you talking about? Maybe I'm reading into this wrong. It just makes you sound like you support one of these ignorant white males talking about white power.
By the way, you keep citing that Ice Cube album. The track you discuss is on Lethal Injection. The track was never a single. There was never a video for it. It's a track that he would like to probably forget. The funny thing about that album...more white people probably bought that album. It went platinum, but was never consider a hot album in the hip-hop community. At least not on the east coast. The success of the album was due to two tracks. The singles "Real Doe" and "You Know How We Do It". Of course the "Bop Gun" single with George Clinton never even broke the top 20 in the UK or the US.
the term 'ho' was NOT coined by Black rappers, the term ho was coined by American pimps who lazily broke it down from the word whore. If you'd like to get a better definition of that word ask Felicia to Wiki it..................Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Asia
And for the record there are Australian, and European people that have nappy hair, lol, it's not just an African or African-American thing........
Lol...and im sure that the rutgers roster is simply loaded with Aussies and euros w/ bad "do's" :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
LMAO, hey HA is loaded with a bunch of different folks, you'd be amazed...................
back to the OP [by me] this is sexist, and more women groups should be fighting IMUS.............
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Thank you for inadvertantly confirming my point...
If a white man speaks out its labled as "white power"...how come when a black leader speaks out it isnt labled "black power"??!?!