why do SOME white people think its ok to be racist?

First My family had 0 do with slavery since they in 1920. I don't think was slavery in New York City. Was There?[/quote]

New York city was part of the original 13 colonies, which all had slaves. Things changed a little after the War of Independence and split between the mason-dixon line. Didnt they find an ancient negro burial ground in NEwy York when they were building an office block a few years ago.

Secondly Were they victims of the segregation which was finally outlawed in the 1960s? I read that NY had has much segregation problems as the south. For instance in the nearby Pentagon building, when it was built it had double the number of toilets. That was because govenment or public buildings had to have seperate toilets for 'whites and coloureds'.

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First My family had 0 do with slavery since they in 1920. I don't think was slavery in New York City. Was There?

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New York city was part of the original 13 colonies, which all had slaves. Things changed a little after the War of Independence and split between the mason-dixon line. Didnt they find an ancient negro burial ground in NEwy York when they were building an office block a few years ago.

Secondly Were they victims of the segregation which was finally outlawed in the 1960s? I read that NY had has much segregation problems as the south. For instance in the nearby Pentagon building, when it was built it had double the number of toilets. That was because govenment or public buildings had to have seperate toilets for 'whites and coloureds'.[/quote]



I also said in another post that my Grandparents were NOT that friendly with blacks. Well not at first. Yes New York is segregated. But most of the fighting was NOT black vs. white but Irish vs. Italians and Polish Jews. So my family never had any problems with blacks, and as they got older they learned to respect blacks and other people who had it hard in this country.

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Now I make it a habit to make eye contact and give a nod of the head or say hi to people when our eyes meet. About half the time, people react positively, and the rest of them act like they wonder what my game is. Which I find kind of amusing. I'm just acknowledging you, brother, relax.

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Funny that you should mention that. I too, make it a habit to make eye contact, but one particular week I decided make a conscious decision to greet people who passed me to see the reactions. Being black, I noticed other blacks (particularly men) were more apt to make eye contact and either nod or say "hey," while hispanics tended to look at me quizically while occasionally responding.

I also noticed people closer to my age range were more likely to respond, while often times people a generation or two ahead of me didn't bother looking at me much lol. I live near a transit station, by the way, so there's a lot of people around, in case you're wondering.

Like you, I didn't make any racial conclusions, I just thought it was kinda funny. There's no real point to this post, just felt like sharing. :P

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I'm sorry, but Jews are semites.

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What planet do you live on? Im talking about American Jews like Barbara streisand. How many middle eastern jews have Blond hair and Light colored eyes. Most american jews are of Eastern European stock. Since israel is in the middle eastern region it's fare to say that REAL are of middle eastern stock. A semite would be more like an easten African.

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Yeah Jr. "Nose" is a semite, too. Granted, a talent-less hack of a semite, but she's a semite none the less.

By your ignorant logic, there's a lot of white people in Iran as well simply because many persians have blue eyes.

Good god! You're a moron!

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You're the moron. 1st i'm speaking in general terms, of course there are some exceptions to every rule. Alot Iranians are mixed with european blood. But that does not them white by scandinavian standards. Scandinavian's are the ancient descendants of most western europeans. along with the Anglo's and Saxons. So unless you can trace your roots back to these people with no mixing of other races. You are NOT a PURE white person.

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Sorry, but you made a very specific claim and you are now TRYING to generalize it now that you've proven to be an imbecile.

"Nose" is a semite. You're specific claim was that "Nose" isn't a semite because "how many middle eastern jews have Blond hair and Light colored eyes?" I went on to expose the absurdness of your claim and have exposed you, successfully.

Now you're trying to back-pedal and generalize, which makes you appear even more desperate to prove your ignorant point.

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Hey dude. We have families. We're catholics [well I'm Christian]. We celebrate Christmas, Easter and Valentines day. Our families average out about 6. Do we have some bastard salvatrucha? Yeah. Are there evil motherfuckers coming across the border? Hell yeah. But I've said this before. If we have to have immigration, I'd rather it be a people rooted in Western Values than Asian or Arab.

This country has to have population for it to compete for global resources. If whitey wants a whiter population, you should have some white kids for a change. If not, I see nothing wrong with bringing in people who share our religion, values and work ethic by and large.

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Most of you conservative's want illegals here. But for 1 reason only. Cheap labor done by people who won't stand up for their rights. A lot of hispanic people say they will take a job that an american won't do. Well that sounds nice and everything, but most americans can't live on $5 and hour. Why? Because americans don't live like most working class spanish do. Most of them make it on very little pay by living sometimes up to 15 ADULTS to a house. So if every working adult is bringing in $5 an hour that is now $75 an hour. Most Americans in general don't live like this. Most of us live 2 adults and children so each person has to make more since there are only 2 working adults. I say to corporate sellouts pay an american wage and americans will be happy to fill those jobs. With all of these people coming here by the millions. Changing black and white american culture to the USM?
United States Of Mexico. We're Already close to loosing our english language to spanish. ALL Americans no matter what color they are. Take a stand.

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Most of you conservative's want illegals here. But for 1 reason only. Cheap labor done by people who won't stand up for their rights.

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I'm glad you didn't refute any of my post and instead have resorted to politics. That's fine by me.

I can point the finger right back at you because this is truly a two way street. Democrats want more mexicans because by and large, we're stupid and vote democrat. We buy their lies for some reason just like the blacks do. Promises of Affirmative action and Gray Davis's promise of California Drivers Licenses for illegals. Let's not forget, this is how Democrats buy their votes.... Social programs and hand-outs.

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A lot of hispanic people say they will take a job that an american won't do. Well that sounds nice and everything, but most americans can't live on $5 and hour.

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Illegals have to take the 5 dollar an hour job because they're stupid. They like the abuse as long as they have a roof and food. No American has to work for that but many choose to remain poor and unskilled. Point the finger at whitey or at conservatives or whoever you want, but there's no GOOD reason that a legal American citizen can't learn a skill and make themselves marketable unless he suffers from some kind of disability.

It is not enough to say "I can't make it because of illegals", that's weak and cowardly. You owe it to yourself to make it, no one owes it to you, especially not the government.

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Why? Because americans don't live like most working class spanish do.

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We're not talking about Spaniards, we're talking about Mexicans. Use the right word.

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Most of them make it on very little pay by living sometimes up to 15 ADULTS to a house.

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The rare exception rather than the rule. Granted, you may find 8 or 9 in one house and that's a lot more than a single homosexual white male taking up space. Is that the gripe? That every household should be 1800 square feet and single occupancy?

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So if every working adult is bringing in $5 an hour that is now $75 an hour. Most Americans in general don't live like this. Most of us live 2 adults and children so each person has to make more since there are only 2 working adults. I say to corporate sellouts pay an american wage and americans will be happy to fill those jobs.

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Hey man, I make good money and so do many of my friends. I don't need the nanny state coming in to legislate away my shortcomings. I feel sorry for working people who can't make ends meet, but at the end of the day, FUCK EM. That's life. There's winners and losers. There will ALWAYS be winners and losers. Those of us who have something, the VAST majority of the time HAVE it because we earned it.

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With all of these people coming here by the millions. Changing black and white american culture to the USM? United States Of Mexico. We're Already close to loosing our english language to spanish. ALL Americans no matter what color they are. Take a stand.

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Yeah I'm with you on the English thing. I'm the first motherfucker to stare down a fucker for assuming I speak spanish.

This land is my land, bitch! Speak english!

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I'm sorry, but Jews are semites.

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What planet do you live on? Im talking about American Jews like Barbara streisand. How many middle eastern jews have Blond hair and Light colored eyes. Most american jews are of Eastern European stock. Since israel is in the middle eastern region it's fare to say that REAL are of middle eastern stock. A semite would be more like an easten African.

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Yeah Jr. "Nose" is a semite, too. Granted, a talent-less hack of a semite, but she's a semite none the less.

By your ignorant logic, there's a lot of white people in Iran as well simply because many persians have blue eyes.

Good god! You're a moron!

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You're the moron. 1st i'm speaking in general terms, of course there are some exceptions to every rule. Alot Iranians are mixed with european blood. But that does not them white by scandinavian standards. Scandinavian's are the ancient descendants of most western europeans. along with the Anglo's and Saxons. So unless you can trace your roots back to these people with no mixing of other races. You are NOT a PURE white person.

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Sorry, but you made a very specific claim and you are now TRYING to generalize it now that you've proven to be an imbecile.

"Nose" is a semite. You're specific claim was that "Nose" isn't a semite because "how many middle eastern jews have Blond hair and Light colored eyes?" I went on to expose the absurdness of your claim and have exposed you, successfully.

Now you're trying to back-pedal and generalize, which makes you appear even more desperate to prove your ignorant point.

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Again dumbass how do you know much about white people? Since you are NOT a white person. Did your people come from PURE anglo-saxom blood?
If they did'nt you know nothing.

Back-pedal? Im only following your example. Generalize? That's all you've been doing in every post. Blacks did this blacks did that. They might have but jews and mexicans are worst. Period

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Again dumbass how do you know much about white people? Since you are NOT a white person. Did your people come from PURE anglo-saxom blood? If they did'nt you know nothing.

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So in other words you're a racial elitists. Thanks. Now not only can we label you an imbecile but we can now be confident that if one is not from "Anglo Saxon blood... We know nothing

Let me lay on you the most vicious label a whitey can be labeled...

You're a racist!

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Back-pedal? Im only following your example. Generalize? That's all you've been doing in every post.

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Hellz yes I have. I've generalized the whole way, no back pedaling required. It's called "Generalize" because it's GENERALLY true.

I don't need to, nor have I changed or attempted to change or alter any of what I've said. You on the other hand have made statements that are ignorant and imbecilic. Then when exposed you tried to generalize.

It's clear you're having a hard time explaining away your stupidity, so I'll take it easy on you now. (no I won't)... oops, I back pedaled.

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Blacks did this blacks did that. They might have but jews and mexicans are worst. Period

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Look, every asshole that didn't like what there ma said because it was cool in the 1960's is to blame.

Racism was created by the Portugese, since they enslaved first.

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Thank you, George Bernard Shaw.

I'll say this (again) about TFan:
I don't always agree with what he has to say...in fact, often I disagree. But then again I haven't lived his life or gotten his perspective first hand. As he's pointed out, many if not practically all of my face-to-face encounters with hispanics have been with working-class folks. An impartial social scientist would conclude that the majority of these people are docile, work hard rather than smart, and have little ambition other than to keep their noses to the grindstone all their lives.
TFan to me represents a valuable alternative opinion. What I sometimes feel he could use a bit more of is a sense of humility or mercy towards the simpler folks. (You'll forgive me if I misinterpret, TFan.) I'm convinced that while it's technically possible to educate oneself or otherwise lift oneself up out of the 'rabble', there's a reason many never will. Call it spirit, inspiration, strength of character, good parenting or mentoring, one inspiring teacher, or what you will. But in all times, in all places, and within all cultures there are the aristocrats, the middle class, and the common folk. Are the commoners to be pitied, despised, helped, ignored, humiliated, annihilated or....?
I think about the poor at some point every day. Do I pretend they don't exist? Or do I give away all my possessions and become like Mother Teresa? Obviously, neither extreme is going to happen, at least not in this kid's case.
There's two kinds of activism, regardless of the 'cause.' The kind that makes the papers and the small everyday personal gesture. And they're both important. I've been led down some pretty cool roads because of a book or something someone suggested. And it's no trouble to make it a daily habit to be courteous to strangers that you meet.
At the very least you might help someone's mood that's having a crappy day. And you might just provide someone with a spark that desperately needs it. Someone recommended the book Rich Dad Poor Dad to me several years ago. I was able to see clearly for the first time the way my parents make fundamental mistakes in the way they deal with their money. And I've changed the way I think about it as well - all because someone casually suggested a book years ago.
I guess I'm a proponent of the variation of the idea of teaching a man to fish versus giving him a fish. My variation is "I don't have time to teach everyone to fish...but I can suggest a good fishing hole, and it's up to them to listen." But just saying 'fuck 'em' to me is morally wrong. And unnecessary.

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You have a swastika in your avatar.

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It's a sign of good luck in Japan. Adopted by Germany. I think this has been explained to you already. I happen to be in Japan.

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*late as hell* Isn't it a Bhuddist symbol? I remember seeing it on Tien's forehead in old dragonball manga

Bhuddist symbol, yes. Also used by Native Americans, I believe.

I havent googled it but i do believe the Swazi was originally a Hindu symbol...i love the Swazi and im pissed that in this day and age what it represents,but eventually I will get it worked into my ink

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Also used by Native Americans, I believe.

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It is indeed used by Native Americans, though in an "upright" position, as opposed to the leftward tilt of the German form. Obviously, the meaning is also very different.

For those who care...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastik...can_traditions

My Old Man told me when I was young, "If sense was common, everybody would have some!" Some people are just 'Natural Born JACKASSES'!!! :shrug

Would imagine a session with Mistress Soleli would put things into perspective....

STOP FUCKING CRYING, EVERY RACE IS RACIST, DONT SINGLE THE WHITES OUT, THATS BEING RACIST

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STOP FUCKING CRYING, EVERY RACE IS RACIST, DONT SINGLE THE WHITES OUT, THATS BEING RACIST

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Shut up whitey

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Why did you bump this?

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Why did you bump this?

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Because they were bored. :roll:

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asking a question isn't crying. pleading that people stop crying IS crying. the proper response: there, there celticgrafix...don't cry...brighten up...tomorrow's fuckin' St. Patrick's Day. :D

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True black history isn't taught in schools. Just because you study Black History every February doesn't mean anything at all. How would young black kids no anything about their history.

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I think the very idea of "black history month" is an insult. How about just plain history every day at school? Or should we seperate every month of the year by race..."white history month", then asian, then mexican...ect.

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True black history isn't taught in schools. Just because you study Black History every February doesn't mean anything at all. How would young black kids no anything about their history.

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The insult is what is taught now.


History = HIS story

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Shut up whitey

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Shut up whitey

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True dat. Fuck that ofay peckerwood mofo!

This will only change when the mass landing happens.

until then, wallow in the ignorance of racism.

I'm an equal opportunist myself, I can't compute to the fraction of a % that makes us different, so everyone's treated all the same by me, until given a reason...

Lmao i feel sorry for all of you who still see yourselves as a race. There is only two races on the planet Human race and Animal Race. What you are talking about is culture. My advice to everyone learn what you unlearn and seek the truth. We are all human! Why is it so hard to see it? Every culture has it hard not just one. Struggle is a sign that God loves you. When you all wake up then we might have something to discuss.

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The insult is what is taught now.


History = HIS story

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Conveniently forgetting that most of the African slaves were taken by their own people and sold to Arabic countries long before the UK/US slave trade. Also forgetting that in the UK only a short while later after the end of the slave trade there were black landlords.

Then you get rap, MOBO my ass, between the 14th and 17th century Preists and Bishops/Monks in Scotland preached by poetry in what is now known as "Freestyle" no rehearsal just off the top of the head. Slaves were inspired by that and performed their own prayers in the same manner. MOSO more like..

Then there is the proficient use of "Niggah" as a term of endeerment between black people. The use of a word that can result in prosecution for a white man should NOT be permitted by a black man. No one has the right to say that a word is wrong to use and still use it themselves.

Ironically there is the "Role-Models" like Hale Berry. With campaigns against the use of stereotypes whilst campainging for the steretype of a "strong black woman", the same woman who conveniently forgets that there have been MANY women Oscar winners.

Of course I am only focusing on one race. You have the same issues in many other races too.

Whats everyones opinion about Obama's Pastor: Rev. Jeremiah Wright??

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He makes about as much sense as the white bible-bangers who endorse McCain...they're all religious zealots with their own self-serving, opportunistic agenda...nothing more than Elmer Gantry redux...

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Whats everyones opinion about Obama's Pastor: Rev. Jeremiah Wright??

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He is just expressing what many people feel, but in a very dramatic way to get people's attention. This isn't the land of the free and home of the brave, there has been bondage and cowardice throughout the course of history for this country, but the beautiful thing about this country is a man should be able to express his displeasure at the status quo without recourse.


On another note, in this thread affirmative action has been thrown around very freely as a cause of reverse discrimination, but the biggest group of beneficiaries of affirmative action are WHITE women. The problem with affirmative action is it benefits the people who already have the qualifications to apply for the job instead of increasing the number with the qualifications. The playing field would be more leveled with a change in the educational system and social network in tandem.

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co-sign....im thinkin the whites stick together just like the blacks and the asians do but to single out my race is alittle pathetic isnt it.im a strong beleiver in my race and im damn proud to be white but on the other hand if i were black id be damn proud of that as well plus id save ahelluva lot on my monthly tanning salon bill and for the record im not a racist per say cause i hang out with all races although i may be alittle prejudest over the gays cause i have no use for the gay communitty fags just makes me puke a girl is the bottom and the guy is the top its that simple people.anyways im pulling for obama,i hope he wins .

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co-sign....im thinkin the whites stick together just like the blacks and the asians do but to single out my race is alittle pathetic isnt it.im a strong beleiver in my race and im damn proud to be white but on the other hand if i were black id be damn proud of that as well plus id save ahelluva lot on my monthly tanning salon bill and for the record im not a racist per say cause i hang out with all races although i may be alittle prejudest over the gays cause i have no use for the gay communitty fags just makes me puke a girl is the bottom and the guy is the top its that simple people.anyways im pulling for obama,i hope he wins .

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So according to your ignorant mind, all gays are bottom. I wonder how gays fuck each other.

But you're right, you're not a racist. You're just an ignorant white trash.

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Sorry mate, words have concrete meaning. In America, you are free to speak your mind, but you must accept the consequences of the words you use.

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co-sign....im thinkin the whites stick together just like the blacks and the asians do but to single out my race is alittle pathetic isnt it.im a strong beleiver in my race and im damn proud to be white but on the other hand if i were black id be damn proud of that as well plus id save ahelluva lot on my monthly tanning salon bill and for the record im not a racist per say cause i hang out with all races although i may be alittle prejudest over the gays cause i have no use for the gay communitty fags just makes me puke a girl is the bottom and the guy is the top its that simple people.anyways im pulling for obama,i hope he wins .

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So according to your ignorant mind, all gays are bottom. I wonder how gays fuck each other.

But you're right, you're not a racist. You're just an ignorant white trash.

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There are plenty of black people who are racists too. In fact, racism exists in very race against all races.

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co-sign....im thinkin the whites stick together just like the blacks and the asians do but to single out my race is alittle pathetic isnt it.im a strong beleiver in my race and im damn proud to be white but on the other hand if i were black id be damn proud of that as well plus id save ahelluva lot on my monthly tanning salon bill and for the record im not a racist per say cause i hang out with all races although i may be alittle prejudest over the gays cause i have no use for the gay communitty fags just makes me puke a girl is the bottom and the guy is the top its that simple people.anyways im pulling for obama,i hope he wins .

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So according to your ignorant mind, all gays are bottom. I wonder how gays fuck each other.

But you're right, you're not a racist. You're just an ignorant white trash.

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Cool. I'm glad we agree. Have a good day.

Umm excuse me, blacks can be racist too. I get racist remarks a lot from black women, when I am dancing at the clubs here. "Who does that white bitch think she is" blah blah blah.

So it's not all one sided, and secondly people get offended way to easily off racism.

And act like they lived in the times of segragation or even the civil war.

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I have to go on a little rant here.
I know I was the one who JUST told another black person to get over rejection from a non-black tranny but....
I just had an incedent happen and I may try to orginize a boycott(I never thought this would be something I would ever do).
White people are in general ignorant about a lot of the facets of the "black community".
Yet when you camly and articulately try to explain to them they become beligerant.
WHY?
Sometime it just sucks to be black in america.....you are always reminded you are different...people try to put you down in subtle ways.
Racism is just a bitch.

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You ever put into considerstion that, the reason why blacks are oust by not just whites but the rest on the wolrd in becuase you stand out.

Let me expalin: Blacks or African Americans however you want to say it. Dress different, walk different, talk different. Im not racist but African Americans have to be there own people. I mean you even alienate your own people, you say another african american isnt black because he grew up in the suberbs, and had a college education, and didnt grow up in the streets or in the hood or in the projects. Whats the difference? Hes still an African American.

Also many African Americans complain about racism and injustice, or heres a thought why dont you just get out of the country. Go to Europe or Asia or go back to Africa. If your sick and tired of all the crime agianst blacks then go away, move somewhere where youll know youll be treated better.

Also its your fault for letting stupid ignorence of other people affect you so much. Alot of people call me spick becuase Im Puerto Rican but I dont care I just keep walking. I dont protest or demand better rights. Just ignore it and go with your life.

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Also many African Americans complain about racism and injustice, or heres a thought why dont you just get out of the country. Go to Europe or Asia or go back to Africa. If your sick and tired of all the crime agianst blacks then go away, move somewhere where youll know youll be treated better.

Also its your fault for letting stupid ignorence of other people affect you so much. Alot of people call me spick becuase Im Puerto Rican but I dont care I just keep walking. I dont protest or demand better rights. Just ignore it and go with your life.

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It's not my fault you're stupid and ignorant, it YOUR fault. If I'm sick of crime against blacks why should I leave, why don't we have the criminals exiled...say to jail? Hey, here's an idea...why don't we stop putting up with ignorant shit and demand our rights? :roll: