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Gotta wonder what the monthly subscription fee will be.
Ha, I beat The Hard Times to it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/elo...nal-8-monthly/
Aha, so using the latest technology to benefit those less able than ourselves is merely one step toward...what? Consider this from your link-Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
"“This is a big step forward for humanity. If things keep moving forward at this rate then this will be a consumer product anyone can have lodged in their brain in less than a decade. Just think how easy it will be to turn on your television just by thinking ‘turn on television.’ No more reaching upwards of three feet away for remotes, or yelling things at your smart TV,” said the world’s second-richest man. “And we will also have a premium package that guarantees we won’t remotely shut down your limbic system for the low monthly price of $8. This gives you full access to your long-term memory, sexual stimulation, even your sense of smell. We are already working on a Premium+ package that will use AI to make you seem more charming when you talk. The AI has been trained off of my daily banter with friends, so you are guaranteed to be more popular.”
So if you fail to pay that $8 fee will they threaten to 'shut you down? Maybe this technology should be given for free to people who truly need it, and I doubt there are so many quadriplegics in the US for this to be a drain on a man who is paid millions and millions of dollars a year. And maybe he should volunteer to be chipped and pinned?
Was there ever a man so good at losing the confidence of the people he needs for his schemes to work?
Apparently you didn't notice that The Hard Times is a (very obviously) satire site. They made the same joke I did, but used many more words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
A fair cop, but it is hard to know with Musk what is real and what is 'satire' or just hi sounding off. And isn't that the problem when dealing with someone with that amount of money and influence?
Hence my initial joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
What was the joke? Playing with people's lives is not funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
OK, my sarcastic remark about the nature of Elon Musk, the current trend to turn everything into a monthly subscription service, and healthcare under capitalism. I'm not the one creating Neuralink implants. I'm also not a profiteer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
I'll try not to overestimate anyone's intelligence again when posting satirical articles.
I just didn't get it, let's leave it at that.
I only responded to your comments about it. If you don't comment about it further, I'm done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Have you never heard of black humour? I guess you must really hate Dr Strangelove.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Lol he actually does!Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
Ironically, the man who is now implanting chips in people's brains once made a post supporting the conspiracy theory that Bill Gates was financing 'mind-control' vaccines.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-m...e-mind-control
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bi...f-cia-in-2005/
Just imagine the right-wing frenzy if Gates was financing this brain chip project.
Yes, I remember now that he dismissed Kubrick's films. Welcome back, even if it's only a brief visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...of-Great-Films
Thanks, for the memory...true. This is not the place to demolish the reputation of Kubrick. I used to know someone who worked with Stanley on 2001: A Space Odyssey, only to discover after all the work she did that her scene was cut out of the film.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
Kubrick could make a dazzling film about Musk, it would look fantastic of course, but would not be able to disguise the mendacious, auto-pomposity of a man who doesn't really know what to do with all that money and power: a perfect example of Kubrick's cynical dismissal of humanity. There is no 'black humour' in his films, just a tedious repetition of the cod anthropology of the kind found in William Golding's Lord of the Flies -humans cannot change their essential nature: greedy and violent.
Your analysis sounds fishy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Citizen Musk? Would you prefer a film that disguised his mendacious auto-pomposity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
I think we can now separate a debate on films, from real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
Consider in its American context, the difference between one man, William Randolph Hearst, who became rich through his media business, and Andrew Carnegie, who made a fortune in steel, and then gave a lot of it away, with Carnegie Hall probably his most famous legacy. Yes, Carnegie was one of the Robber Barons, but historians have tied themselves in knots trying to decide if there is a moral case to answer, while having to acknowledge that the last quarter of the 19th century was a transforming time, and that the 'big industrialists' helped to shape modern America as an industrial leader of the world.
Robber baron (industrialist) - Wikipedia
A comparison can be made with Bill Gates, who with a relatively small team at first, has helped transform the world of personal communication that was beyond most people's imagination when I was born. I am sure Gates has his flaws, but he has used a lot of his wealth for the public good, notably with regard to global public health projects.
And yes, Musk is a cutting edge kind of guy, he is intent on making space travel common, which I think is a really long shot, and if there is anything in his neural technology than can benefit people with severe disabilities, he will be worthy of a mention in the history books.
The odium comes with his personal views, his behaviour as a CEO which is shall we say unconventional, but sadly typical of a man with so much money and power he believes his own propaganda. The link below delves into the issues around the pay dispute that was the subject of a court case in Delaware, but is mostly interesting not for any social benefits derived from his business, but the roster of family and friends who have been instrumental in awarding Musk financial rewards that they themselves have also profited from.
Judge Voids Elon Musk’s Tesla Pay Package In Rare Victory For Shareholders (yahoo.com)
Edward Heath, former Prime Minister of the UK once remarked on the 'unacceptable face of Capitalism', and one can lump Musk in with Rupert Murdoch as villains of our age, even as Murdoch was also a transformative influence in the media (in my view in a negative way).
Thus, we have reached an age when in the UK, Russia and the US there are Billionaires who seem, like Fafner, to sit on their wealth, rather than invest it in people. The consequence in Russia is that a country of some importance and fabulous wealth is incapable of producing its own computer chips, having decided that when the option is 'make or buy' they buy, a similar problem for the oil-rich monarchies of Arabia.
In the UK it means we have underfunded social services, but also a chronic lack of investment in jobs and industry, whatever the future might be. Buying and selling property seems to be more satisfactory than investing in people.
In the US, Musk would prefer to house rich people on Mars than the poor in San Francisco. If the top 100 US billionaires loved their country more than they love their money, there would be no homeless people living on the streets; there would be adequate facilities for asylum seekers and immigrants, and children would be attending well funded schools preparing them for life in the 21st century with the curriculum it demands.
If Musk is too self-absorbed to give away his money, ditto all the others, the time has come to take it away from them.
I think there might be a film in there somewhere, but you wouldn't want losers like Kubrick or David Lynch to make it.
Thanks. I will be back for sure but I've taken some time off just bc i've had a lot going on at work. Then i thought i was probably spending too much time staring at a screen anyway. But I still read the threads here on my phone during the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
What a dope. Is he concerned about those other 'one party states', like Wyoming, Texas and Wisconsin, to name just three, and the means used by that one party to secure power? When he colonises Mars, will it be a multi-party democracy?
Elon Musk blasts Biden as he sensationally accuses him of plot to make a 'one-party state' (msn.com)
Completely agree Elon-Right Wing Loving Assclown-Musk is a dope. The more he opens his mouth,the more idiotic he sounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
So, Elon Musk sings from the same song sheet as the Ambassador to the Court of St James from the New Soviet Union, or Novyy Sovetskiy Soyuz, or новый советский союз for the Trolls in St Petersburg with a dark sexual secret lurking in these pages...
But if the New Soviet Union cannot be beaten, the obvious alternative question is: can it win?
One wonders if Mr Musk, his friend in London, and probably Tucker Carlson -who now prefers Moscow to any city in the USA- agree with the Party Line.
Spasibo, tovarishchi
Elon Musk says the US should stop sending aid to Ukraine as there's 'no way in hell' Putin will lose (yahoo.com)
Putin's UK Ambassador Boasts 'Russia Cannot Be Beaten At All' (yahoo.com)
I am aware that people working for Elon Musk have done great things with technology -at some point if it is proprietary now, it will in time become universal, with or without him and his company taking a cut of the profits.
But this is beyond obscene, it is almost without meaning. The meaning that it has, that Musk did not get a salary also does not make sense -did he not have shares in the company?
Then irony is he is so rich he could exist without the salary 99% of workers rely on. But the figure- no, it is simply wrong, and I can't understand the shareholders who would approve it, as it makes a mockery of that elusive thing called a 'business decision'.
When CEO salaries went through the roof 20-25 years ago, we were told in a global economy it was market rates. Are CEO salaries or more importantly, annual income, to be measured in Billions? But can we stop it?
"Tesla’s shares are down 28% this year. It has warned of “notably” slower growth as sales in its second-largest market, China, fall. A defect forced a recall of its highly anticipated latest product. The chief executive spends a lot of time at other companies or generating controversy. How do you reward him? With a record-breaking $56bn pay deal, if Tesla gets its way at its annual meeting on Thursday.
"Denholm [Tesla Chair] appealed to shareholders again last week, saying there was a risk Musk would step back from Tesla if they did not back his pay package this week. “If Tesla is to retain Elon’s attention and motivate him to continue to devote his time, energy, ambition and vision to deliver comparable results in the future, we must stand by our deal,” she wrote."
Tesla leads charge to defend Elon Musk’s $56bn pay package | Executive pay and bonuses | The Guardian
No 10 criticises Elon Musk for ‘civil war is inevitable’ post on England riots | UK news | The Guardian
What does the ignorant American achieve by forming an alliance with 'Tommy Robinson'? It's not like there is any money to be made, while the reputation of X as a platform for Neo-Nazis, Fascists and anarchic trouble makers who use democracy to destroy it is secure. What happens when someone dies because of the 'recreational violence' that is happening on the streets of the UK? Does Musk even care about that?
Some more on the owner of X, the Platform of Hate. Again, what is Musk's motives given that he is not making any money out of the hate and violence in the UK? And why has he not investigated, or asked questions about the Russian connections to the violence in the UK which has followed the election of a Labour Govt that Musk- and Putin- obviously do not approve of?
As for 'the Base', which may or may not have traction in the US, this Russian-based Nazi outfit may in reality be ineffective, but such people only need to be 'lucky' once, whereas their victims need to be lucky all the time. And if you are wondering where you heard that term 'the Base' before, think al-Qaeda, another world domination outfit, but one that has slumped into the shadows of war.
Maybe the UK Govt should announce it is no longer going to use X, the Platform of Hate as part of its PR, and declare the sick Maga-lo-Maniac Persona non Grata in the UK. As if he cared. Maybe he is about to go on holiday in Cyprus with his drug-peddling mate 'Tommy Robinson', though a hotel at £400 a night must sound like a slum to billionaires. But hey, it's Cyprus, so there are plenty of kebabs to eat.
Elon Musk wades into far-right riots row again as war of words with UK MPs grows | The Independent
The Base-
Revealed: US neo-Nazi terror group aims to revive activities ahead of election | The far right | The Guardian
Is it possible to believe in absolute free speech and democracy? Or is one a form of anarchism, and the other a form of social organization? Whatever it is, Musk seems reluctant to explain his sudden interest in the domestic politics of the UK.
UK disorder: What's Elon Musk's game? - BBC News
'The Woke Mind Virus'....the spark that drove Musk into the arms of the 'anti-woke' conspiracy soaked right and away from the Democrats?
"According to Musk’s biographer Walter Isaacson, the transition of his child had a profound impact on Musk’s world view, with the rejection of him as a father triggering his descent towards fringe conspiracies and setting him on a trajectory towards becoming a leading figure in the culture war.When she turned 18 in April 2022, his daughter legally changed her name from Xavier Musk to Vivian Jenna Wilson, declaring to the court: “I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.” Musk’s girlfriend at the time – Claire Boucher, known professionally as Grimes – told Isaacson that she had “never seen him as heartbroken about anything”."
"In an interview with Peterson last month, Musk publicly spoke about his reasoning behind his daughter’s estrangement for the first time – and the motivation it instilled in him to undergo his own political and moral transition. “Essentially… my son is dead,” he said. “Killed by the woke mind virus. So I vowed to destroy the woke mind virus after that. And we’re making some progress.”
It has been a quick capitulation from centrist moderate to far right instigator for Musk. His tweet about finding the origin of the “woke mind virus” came just three months after tweeting: “I prefer to stay out of politics.”"
How Elon Musk’s radicalisation can be pinpointed to a single event (msn.com)
I can't be sure what happened, I don't even know how much time the Dad spent with his Son and Daughter, or why one rejected the other, but I would like to think that in other families, the parent(s) would be more sympathetic or at least ask why, rather than blame some abstract other, for something that is so personal, but I am not him.
Farage and Musk, the double act of lies and disinformation. Two tier policing? It's been common for decades, just ask a Black Briton. Open borders? Every country with a coastline knows it cannot police every inch of it, that doesn't make it an 'open border' in the sense NF means it. As for the 'Woke Stasi' -when is this abuse of the English language going to stop? It makes a mockery of the facts, and may be why Farage is losing support, probably Musk too though that might be harder to quantify, just as the rioters in the UK seem to realize they have lost the plot, though they haven't gone away.
Farage reaches out to Elon Musk as he rages about ‘open borders’ media conspiracy as approval ratings plummet (yahoo.com)
The power of X, with regret. Is there really no alternative? What actually would happen if the Govt abandoned it? They have a press centre in No 10 after all, it cost the tax payer millions.
Labour needs X to get its message out however much it may wish it didn’t | X | The Guardian
"Let’s remind ourselves who brought Robinson and a whole slew of far-right agitators back in from the cold, thereby putting X out of step with the likes of YouTube and Facebook. It was Musk, of course. He decided to make X a safe space for racism and hate almost as soon as he bought it. The effect was instant. One analysis of tweets found a “nearly 500% increase in use of the N-word in the 12-hour window immediately following the shift of ownership to Musk”. The same study also found that posts including “the word ‘Jew’ had increased fivefold since before the ownership transfer”, and something tells me those tweets weren’t tributes to the comic style of Mel Brooks."
You know who else should be on trial for the UK’s far-right riots? Elon Musk | Jonathan Freedland | The Guardian
Is this some sort of 'doom loop' in which people endorse each other even though they don't seem to believe in what they are doing and then lose the election anyway?
As for Kamala Harris being 'literally a Communist', it at least supports the view that whatever it is that Musk knows a lot about, politics and history ain't it. The curious thing being that Communism, as defined by Karl Marx is the consequence of revolution shaped by class struggle whose ultimate end is a social order in which there is no government, no taxation, no military, just absolute freedom. Lenin's version was that the socialist revolution would lead to 'the withering away of the State', so maybe if Musk read more closely, he might conclude he is the Communist.
"Musk’s US political interventions could be more consequential. He endorsed Trump after the failed assassination attempt last month, and since then he has posted regularly supporting the Republicans. On Wednesday, he said the Democrat presidential candidate Kamala Harris was “quite literally a communist”.Trump is not an obvious bedfellow for the boss of the world’s largest electric carmaker. Trump has relentlessly mocked electric cars, although he appeared to change his position last weekend, citing Musk’s support. In Ohio local media, Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, has railed against EV subsidies that benefit Tesla.
Michael Tesler, the professor of political science at University of California, Irvine, pointed to polling showing that US Democrats object to Musk much more than Republicans, even though the latter are much less likely to buy electric cars."
‘His rhetoric has made Tesla toxic’: is Elon Musk driving away his target market? | Automotive industry | The Guardian
Does his Dad still have any influence on the lad? I think it is time for an adult to intervene-
"Elon Musk has dared Humza Yousaf to sue him after the tech billionaire described Scotland's former First Minister as "super-racist against white people".A post on the social media site said Mr Yousaf is reportedly not ruling out legal action against the X boss over comments saying Yousaf "loathes white people".
The tweet goes on to quote Mr Humza's lawyer Aamer Anwar who said: "Elon has effectively painted a target on Yousaf's back with his completely untrue and inflammatory comments."
In response, Mr Musk today replied saying: "He's obviously super-racist against white people. I dare that scumbag to sue me. Go ahead, make my day."".
Elon Musk dares Humza Yousaf to sue and calls him a 'super-racist scumbag' in public row (msn.com)
If only he kept his mouth shut and focused on things that matter -the technology to take the Dis out of Disabled, using his billions to house the homeless in his State rather than house his mates on Mars. Re-usable rockets, Evs, and so on. But no, all that money and a giant Ego means that HE is entitled in a way you are I or not, even though, as Marina Hyde put it today Musk is "a tech boss being unable to organise a tech event on a tech platform"
So Donald chatted with Elon, and here’s the future as they see it – losers win, incompetence rules | Marina Hyde | The Guardian
But this is where one wonders what he has for brains-
""Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed but now they are full cities again," the multibillionaire owner of Tesla, SpaceX and X said."That's great, that's great," Mr Trump responded.
"It is not as scary as people think, basically," Mr Musk added."
Elon Musk draws fire for playing down impact of atomic bombing of Japan: ‘Not as scary as people think’ | The Independent
Not scary, after all, 100,00 dead, a thriving city reduced to ruins. And no, that's not Gaza, but Hiroshima. Basically, this, Mr Musk-
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The Neuralink technology appears to be successful, it improves people's lives, but I think it would be better taken out of the ownership of Elon Musk, owner of X, the Platform of Hate and Lies, if only because this nauseating American Fascist wants everyone to have his gadget implanted into our brains, the sign of a Megalomaniac unfit to own a commercial company. The Tyrrell Corporation of Blade Runner is supposed to be both fiction, and a warning, not a model on which to base the further enslavement of human beings to someone like Musk.
Elon Musk wants to implant millions of Neuralink brain chip as new powers unveiled | The Independent
So here you have it, not just more dismissals of women in public life, as with JD Vance and his Childless Cat Ladies, but the resurrection of something Plato said in The Republic over two thousand years ago, in effect that Government is too important to be left to the little people, and should be the exclusive job of 'Philosopher Kings', or if you prefer, Men like Musk.
Note: Musk is quoting with approval from another source (in full in the link), thus
"“People who can’t defend themselves physically (women and low T men) parse information through a consensus filter as a safety mechanism,” the post reads.“Only high T alpha males and aneurotypical people (hey autists!) are actually free to parse new information with an objective ‘is this true?’ filter,” it adds. “This is why a Republic of high status males is best for decision making. Democratic, but a democracy only for those who are free to think.”".
Elon Musk suggests support for replacing democracy with government of ‘high-status males’ (msn.com)
As for the 'Reich Effect', one hoped it was not Robert, but Wilhelm, not least because Musk has sired offspring in double digits, though we don't know if he enjoyed doing so, just as we might assume Herr Vance is now more concerned to repress sexual urges in case they lead to the downfall of Western -oops, I mean 'Judeo-Christian Civilization'...
"For Reich, impotence, a lack of pleasure from sex or an inability to have an orgasm, were symptoms of ill health and in need of treatment. He wanted nothing less than a sexual revolution, one which could liberate us from the uptight, aggressive authoritarianism of politics and state. Sexual prowess, Reich believed, didn't necessarily equate with a fulfilling sex-life. What matters is how much we can let ourselves go during sex to achieve full-body orgasm. For Reich the body language adopted by those in the military says all we need to know about sexual, psychological and emotional repression – stiff controlled body movements, tight pelvis, rigid jaw, unquestioning obedience and stifled emotions. Reich saw fascism as the 'frenzy of sexual cripples'. To him bigotry, violence and hatred all stem from a longing for love."
The godfather of the sexual revolution? | BPS
Or as Reich said, 'Fuck freely, comrades, it's healthy'...
Mars awaits humanity....but not if Kamala Harris becomes President, according to The Boss with Many Brains
"“While I have many concerns about a potential Kamala regime, my absolute showstopper is that the bureaucracy currently choking America to death is guaranteed to grow under a Democratic Party administration,” Musk, who has endorsed Former President Donald Trump’s White House bid, wrote on X Sunday.
“This would destroy [NASA’s] Mars program and doom humanity,” he added, calling the upcoming November election “a fork, maybe the fork, in the road of human destiny.”
Elon Musk says Kamala Harris presidency would 'destroy' Mars program (qz.com)
Who would have thought the destiny of humankind lies in the lap of an as yet unelected President? But then, who would have thought that a multi-Billionaire thinks it is better to use billions of dollars housing rich people on Mars rather than house the homeless in San Francisco?
And who wants to spend the rest of their lives on Mars, never knowing what fresh air is, never feeling the sun on their face (unless it is the last thing they do), never taking the dog for a walk, or having coffee with friends at an open air cafe on a lazy afternoon?
Must be some goons out there willing to swap real life for a synthetic diet, and probably an early death.
Not just powerful beyond the scope of most people, including Presidents, but dangerous too. Should one man have so much control over global resources?
Elon Musk has gained a concerning level of power over US national security | Robert Reich | The Guardian
He is also a shameless liar, and a global fool, and he doesn't care, like JD Vance, he thinks it doesn't matter if you tell lies -only it does. Can nobody take away the positive technology from this strutting oaf and leave him to stew in his permanent state of hate?
""I don’t think anyone should go to the UK when they’re releasing convicted pedophiles in order to imprison people for social media posts," Mr Musk claimed on X.Earlier this month, the government released some prisoners to reduce prison overcrowding, but no sex offenders were included."
Elon Musk hits back after being shunned from UK summit - BBC News