Is it gay to be attracted/intimate with Trannies?

Does it really matter? I think that if you need to ask that question, then you're having a difficult time justifying your decisions, and you're looking for someone else to make you feel better about it.

I enjoy getting down with GG as much as I love getting down with TG. Gay? Straight? Bi? Why would anyone want to pigeonhole themselves like that. Variety is the spice of life! Do what you like and don't be so concerned with labels.

Dice once said, you either suck dick, or you do not suck dick! He was wrong. You can do whatever the fuck you want. And chances are, he did too, but was just to embarrassed to admit it (like most people).

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Does it really matter? I think that if you need to ask that question, then you're having a difficult time justifying your decisions, and you're looking for someone else to make you feel better about it.

I enjoy getting down with GG as much as I love getting down with TG. Gay? Straight? Bi? Why would anyone want to pigeonhole themselves like that. Variety is the spice of life! Do what you like and don't be so concerned with labels.

Dice once said, you either suck dick, or you do not suck dick! He was wrong. You can do whatever the fuck you want. And chances are, he did too, but was just to embarrassed to admit it (like most people).

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lol @ quoting Andrew “Dice” Clay and lmao @ missing his point

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Originally Posted by Lester316

If you are going to use comedy lines find something new not Frankie Boyle lines from 10 years ago..

Aside from that Holzz is right. Ts women identify as WOMEN so if you find them attractive that's not gay. Guys can defend themselves however they like about their sexuality but stop insulting TS women by basically comparing them to men.

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What a strange thing to say Lester.

If I find a gag relevant and funny, I will use it where it fits regardless of age or author. Just like you do, just like everyone does. That ok with you princess?

As someone in a TS relationship I fully agree with Holzz and yourself that Simone who finds my partner or any TS attractive is responding to a straight, heterosexual attraction.

However, once someone is aware that said TS is blessed with the specific male memeber then they have a decision to make. I decided I didn’t care, in fact, I like it and. If that makes me a bit gay or at least bi, so what.

But some contributors here make it plain that their obsession is with the penis, not the person. Fair enough, but to then lay claim to be 100% straight simply because the owner of the penis is incredibly feminine is, potentially, disingenuous at the least.

I’m not saying liking a TS makes you gay. I am saying loving cocks means you don’t get to lay claim to being 100% straight.

Lots of interesting comments about this but I would say that it's all down to how the individual really feels. I like both GG and TS but they have to be feminine and with boobs. I can't see how I can call myself gay if I don't like the male form? On the other hand I like being bottom so it's not black or white at all more a shade of grey. That's my contribution.

It is the communists who do not like homosexuals (which I have proven in my HIV statistics thread) that want to make all male homosexuals and bisexuals feel bad about themselves by means of labels such as "gay", blocking traffic to piss the heterosexuals, who actually do not give jack shit about who you shag, off with "gay prides" and "gay rights" and other activities propelled by the homophobic LGBT-activists and organisations like wearing "gay" clothes in public... I'd say let's chip-in for a helicopter and... Where the hell did that link go?.. xd

P.S. I know an anecdote:

Son: "Dad I need to tell you something"..
Dad: "Go on"
Son: "I'm gay"
Dad: "Are you vegan, believe in global warming and and have a pink Audi TT and a mansion with a swimming pool? - No? Then you are a homo, not gay"!
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It is the communists who do not like homosexuals (which I have proven in my HIV statistics thread) that want to make all male homosexuals and bisexuals feel bad about themselves by means of labels such as "gay", blocking traffic to piss the heterosexuals, who actually do not give jack shit about who you shag, off with "gay prides" and "gay rights" and other activities propelled by the homophobic LGBT-activists and organisations like wearing "gay" clothes in public... I'd say let's chip-in for a helicopter and... Where the hell did that link go?.. xd

P.S. I know an anecdote:

Son: "Dad I need to tell you something"..
Dad: "Go on"
Son: "I'm gay"
Dad: "Are you vegan, believe in global warming and and have a pink Audi TT and a mansion with a swimming pool? - No? Then you are a homo, not gay"!
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lol @ quoting Andrew “Dice” Clay and lmao @ missing his point

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I didn't miss any points. But thanks.

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But the guy never got fucked. It was just his GF who had a burning desire to fuck men in the ass.
See, if a woman desires to fuck men or TS chicks in the butt, no one thinks much of it.

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then i wouldn't call her gay. i'd think she was a sadist depending on why she wanted to fuck a man in the ass with a strap-on. does she like to put men in submissive positions? i'd think she was a lesbian if she had desires to use the strap-on on a woman

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So you like girls who either used to be or sometimes still are guy a to put their dicks in your ass?
Yeah, you’ve convinced me, you’re definitely a million percent straight!

And all those posts you keep placing telling people how little you care if they think your gay? They sure as hell make us think you don’t want people to think you’re gay.

Face it Holzz, you’re not just a bit gay, your so far in the closet I bet your post code is in fucking Narnia!

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you've said you have a ts gf. so then the basic fact you have this surely makes you gay. your lambasting of me is thus highly comical. but then if you respond "i never bottom", then it's even more funny.

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you've said you have a ts gf. so then the basic fact you have this surely makes you gay. your lambasting of me is thus highly comical. but then if you respond "i never bottom", then it's even more funny.

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Yes Holzz, I have a TS partner and I love her cock (regardless of wether she fucks me or not) and I’m completely comfortable of that makes me a bit gay. I do t care if it makes me a lot gay. Or not gay at all.

Your posts suggest you are pretty much cock obsessed and not particularly bothered how feminine the TS it is attached to is yet determined to see yourself as entirely straight.

The reason I lambast you is that you seem to treat the badge of “gay” as something you need to deny.

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Lets openly discuss this like adults, is it gay or not?

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lol, well its a little gay but its ok!

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lol, well its a little gay but its ok!

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And this probably sums it up perfectly (at least for me it does)

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then i wouldn't call her gay. i'd think she was a sadist depending on why she wanted to fuck a man in the ass with a strap-on. does she like to put men in submissive positions? i'd think she was a lesbian if she had desires to use the strap-on on a woman

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She just had penis envy and wanted to feel what it was like to penetrate someone else, instead of being
fucked herself.

and no, mr. atticus, i don't think liking cock per se makes one gay. there is somethng about ts women AND cock that gets it for me. a cis man and a cock, ewww..no.

again, people can cite that as rationalisation, or denying reality. it's like people who think they're "less gay" for topping and not bottoming. but then for some, liking trans women in any form is bi at least. it's relative/subjective. that said, i don't think any man into TS women is gay, if he were then a woman's appearance wouldn't do it for him.

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and no, mr. atticus, i don't think liking cock per se makes one gay. there is somethng about ts women AND cock that gets it for me. a cis man and a cock, ewww..no.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY711HJK7pg

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Yes Holzz, I have a TS partner and I love her cock (regardless of wether she fucks me or not) and I’m completely comfortable of that makes me a bit gay. I do t care if it makes me a lot gay. Or not gay at all.

Your posts suggest you are pretty much cock obsessed and not particularly bothered how feminine the TS it is attached to is yet determined to see yourself as entirely straight.

The reason I lambast you is that you seem to treat the badge of “gay” as something you need to deny.

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i like both women's looks and a cock. you seem obsessed with saying what is gay or not. my honest view is that any man into trans women isn't gay, period. being gay, by definition, is finding men attractive. ts women are not men, unless you believe having boobs or curves are masculine anatomical points.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY711HJK7pg

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then we agree to disagree.

So if you saw somebody like Bailey Jay or Melody Monae in the street with clothes, without knowing who they were, would say you were gay or straight? straight, i bet. but if you knew they were trans and had dicks, does it all of a sudden make you gay/flaming? no.

we'll discuss this until the cows come home. i don't think it's gay, you and atticus et al do.

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then we agree to disagree.

So if you saw somebody like Bailey Jay or Melody Monae in the street with clothes, without knowing who they were, would say you were gay or straight? straight, i bet. but if you knew they were trans and had dicks, does it all of a sudden make you gay/flaming? no.

we'll discuss this until the cows come home. i don't think it's gay, you and atticus et al do.

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I wasn't attempting to make a comment one way or the other on this topic with my response to you. I just thought the video was appropriate. And funny! Cause you know, he kinda talks about that... yeah. I'll just be going now.

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then we agree to disagree.

So if you saw somebody like Bailey Jay or Melody Monae in the street with clothes, without knowing who they were, would say you were gay or straight? straight, i bet. but if you knew they were trans and had dicks, does it all of a sudden make you gay/flaming? no.

we'll discuss this until the cows come home. i don't think it's gay, you and atticus et al do.

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To be fair I’m playing devils advocate a bit.

I was 100% straight when I met my partner and not knowing she was Trans was attracted to her entirely as a woman.

However, once I discovered she had a cock I simply worked with what was at hand, so to speak. She is far more than simply what is in her underwear (as are we all)

Now though, I thoroughly enjoy what’s in her underwear, and feel the same about other TS if they are exceptionally fem.

In that aspect, you and I are completely the same.

However, the fact that her penis is absolutely, solely and entirely a male apendidge means that I completely comfortable describing myself as a bit gay. Bi, if you like, in my attraction to that aspect of her.

You are adamant that an attraction to penises is not in the least gay and, in my opinion, that is flawed, but clearly there, we differ.

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and no, mr. atticus, i don't think liking cock per se makes one gay. there is somethng about ts women AND cock that gets it for me. a cis man and a cock, ewww..no.

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Ok Holzz, brace yourself. Here comes the slap.

In this and other posts you keep referring to how liking gorgeous women who happen to have cocks does not make you gay and your not into masculinity so that means you straight. Fair enough. I’ll go along with that.

Here is a pic of an escort you reviewed after your SECOND visit!

Now I don’t want to be unkind and every Tgirl is beautiful in their own way and all are on a journey, some further along than others.

But if a stunning, ultra fem TS is at one end of the scale and a chunky, six foot dude in a gimp mask is at the other, then you don’t get to tell me me you’re not a little bit gay when this young lady warranted a second visit from you!!!
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ok holzz, brace yourself. Here comes the slap.

In this and other posts you keep referring to how liking gorgeous women who happen to have cocks does not make you gay and your not into masculinity so that means you straight. Fair enough. I’ll go along with that.

Here is a pic of an escort you reviewed after your second visit!

Now i don’t want to be unkind and every tgirl is beautiful in their own way and all are on a journey, some further along than others.

But if a stunning, ultra fem ts is at one end of the scale and a chunky, six foot dude in a gimp mask is at the other, then you don’t get to tell me me you’re not a little bit gay when this young lady warranted a second visit from you!!!
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lmfao!

• Is it gay to be attracted/intimate with Trannies?

it makes me happy.

If you ask me:
If you start with a normal human being and add 500 pounds of un-needed BS, that's a woman.
Add 600, he's gay.
add 800, that's a transsexual.
HA HA HA.
I thought it was Oscar Wilde who said "There is no such thing as a normal sex life"
but I could be wrong.
There is no doubt in my mind that the people with the best sex lives are the complete freaks.
If the question was "do you want to BE a tranny?"
I think you would find that the trannies would say yes, everyone else would say no.

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What a strange thing to say Lester.

If I find a gag relevant and funny, I will use it where it fits regardless of age or author. Just like you do, just like everyone does. That ok with you princess?

As someone in a TS relationship I fully agree with Holzz and yourself that Simone who finds my partner or any TS attractive is responding to a straight, heterosexual attraction.

However, once someone is aware that said TS is blessed with the specific male memeber then they have a decision to make. I decided I didn’t care, in fact, I like it and. If that makes me a bit gay or at least bi, so what.

But some contributors here make it plain that their obsession is with the penis, not the person. Fair enough, but to then lay claim to be 100% straight simply because the owner of the penis is incredibly feminine is, potentially, disingenuous at the least.

I’m not saying liking a TS makes you gay. I am saying loving cocks means you don’t get to lay claim to being 100% straight.

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The line you used:

"Face it Holzz, you’re not just a bit gay, your so far in the closet I bet your post code is in fucking Narnia!"

That's not saying someone can't claim to be 100% straight, there is no 'only a bit gay' or 'curious' about your point there; try remembering what you actually said.

Critiquing your very out of date humour isn't a strange thing at all considering your views are (I'll copy you a bit here you might not pick up on it...) so out of touch they are in the last century with the original publishing dates of the Chronicles of Narnia series.

You can't help but be condescending anyhow; it's clearly part of your character to be quite petty isn't it or you wouldn't have added on the princess comment.

Enjoy being a fool. It suits you well.

(Also it's you're not your - in the context you used the word. But then fools tend to be illiterate).

I’m sorry you don’t appreciate my humour Lester, but you did recognise it as humour which makes your taking it so seriously a little ridiculous.

It’s ironic you find me petty yet feel the need to point out a typo on my phone in spite of clearly understanding the intent.

Your suggestion that my views are from the last century suggest you haven’t really paid much attention (can’t blame you, it’s only a chat room)

My condescending nature tends to be reserved for those that deserve it. Holzz is a regular and clearly valued contributor to this forum but sometimes the bullshit demands rebuke.

And I’m sorry if calling you princess upset you so much, fanboy.

(And ffs take the last line as a joke. It’s a forum but if it were a chat in a pub we would be laughing and taking the piss out of each other, just cos it’s put down in text does not mean you have do overthink and hence take offence at every little quip or comment)

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I’m sorry you don’t appreciate my humour Lester, but you did recognise it as humour which makes your taking it so seriously a little ridiculous.

It’s ironic you find me petty yet feel the need to point out a typo on my phone in spite of clearly understanding the intent.

Your suggestion that my views are from the last century suggest you haven’t really paid much attention (can’t blame you, it’s only a chat room)

My condescending nature tends to be reserved for those that deserve it. Holzz is a regular and clearly valued contributor to this forum but sometimes the bullshit demands rebuke.

And I’m sorry if calling you princess upset you so much, fanboy.

(And ffs take the last line as a joke. It’s a forum but if it were a chat in a pub we would be laughing and taking the piss out of each other, just cos it’s put down in text does not mean you have do overthink and hence take offence at every little quip or comment)

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I got the attempt at humour but it was the sort of humour from 10-20 years ago that some people thought was a viable alternative to the sexism, homophobia and misogyny of 70s working men's clubs that had finally become unacceptable. In my mind it is really just the same tired old shit with a different coat of paint sadly. Women are women whether they happened to transition or not and if you think it's OK to say that being attracted to them makes you gay (by definition attracted to men) then your views are clearly outdated.

Sometimes to let a person know about their own bullshit you have to lower your level and point out their failings. Pointing out your typo seems a small thing as opposed to searching the forums and bringing up posts people made years ago like you have done in the past.

As you say sometimes the bullshit demands rebuke - I've just been doing the same for you as you believe you did with Holzz.

Fanboy, princess; I actually don't care call me whatever you like. I doubt we would ever have the chance to have a laugh and drink down the pub I prefer to avoid the condescending types and stick to a more progressive crowd.

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The line you used:

"Face it Holzz, you’re not just a bit gay, your so far in the closet I bet your post code is in fucking Narnia!"

That's not saying someone can't claim to be 100% straight, there is no 'only a bit gay' or 'curious' about your point there; try remembering what you actually said.

Critiquing your very out of date humour isn't a strange thing at all considering your views are (I'll copy you a bit here you might not pick up on it...) so out of touch they are in the last century with the original publishing dates of the Chronicles of Narnia series.

You can't help but be condescending anyhow; it's clearly part of your character to be quite petty isn't it or you wouldn't have added on the princess comment.

Enjoy being a fool. It suits you well.

(Also it's you're not your - in the context you used the word. But then fools tend to be illiterate).

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You do realize the Chronicles of Narnia have been adapted into a series of successful movies the last few years??
That reference believe it or not is now current.

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You do realize the Chronicles of Narnia have been adapted into a series of successful movies the last few years??
That reference believe it or not is now current.

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Wow really???

But seriously The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe was released in 2005 the same year Frankie Boyle (who was telling the same joke) started on Mock the Week. So 12 years ago...

The reference believe it or not isn't current in any way.

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I got the attempt at humour but it was the sort of humour from 10-20 years ago that some people thought was a viable alternative to the sexism, homophobia and misogyny of 70s working men's clubs that had finally become unacceptable. In my mind it is really just the same tired old shit with a different coat of paint sadly. Women are women whether they happened to transition or not and if you think it's OK to say that being attracted to them makes you gay (by definition attracted to men) then your views are clearly outdated.

Sometimes to let a person know about their own bullshit you have to lower your level and point out their failings. Pointing out your typo seems a small thing as opposed to searching the forums and bringing up posts people made years ago like you have done in the past.

As you say sometimes the bullshit demands rebuke - I've just been doing the same for you as you believe you did with Holzz.

Fanboy, princess; I actually don't care call me whatever you like. I doubt we would ever have the chance to have a laugh and drink down the pub I prefer to avoid the condescending types and stick to a more progressive crowd.

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Lester, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on pretty much your whole post.

Me suggestion jokingly that Holzz is "in the closet" does not equate to me claiming that all men who are attracted to Trans women are gay, no mater how hard you may try to portray it as such for your own ends.

If you actually read my posts you would see that I am a straight guy in a relationship with a trans woman. My opinion however, is that to be somewhat penis obsessed, you might be open to the possibility that you are, to some extent, gay or bi.

Since meeting my OH and deciding I actually quite like cocks, I'm happy to call myself bi. You can call yourself whatever you like.

To be honest, all of your misplaced accusations of sexism, homophobia and misogyny just sound like a load of "White Knighting" on your part in the hope of impressing Trans readers.

You say that in the past I have searched the forum to drag up posts made years ago? Simply not true. This is the first time I have ever referenced a past post and it was made a couple of weeks ago.

And you are always welcome to rebuke my bullshit. That's half the fun of forums.

You're right about us not meeting in the pub. I'd be the one at the bar doing shots with the Ladyboys and you'd be the one in the corner referencing footnote quotes from dead Italian physicists and dead French philosophers while bemoaning others for not having comedic references that are up to date enough for your taste.

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Lester, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on pretty much your whole post.

Me suggestion jokingly that Holzz is "in the closet" does not equate to me claiming that all men who are attracted to Trans women are gay, no mater how hard you may try to portray it as such for your own ends.

If you actually read my posts you would see that I am a straight guy in a relationship with a trans woman. My opinion however, is that to be somewhat penis obsessed, you might be open to the possibility that you are, to some extent, gay or bi.

Since meeting my OH and deciding I actually quite like cocks, I'm happy to call myself bi. You can call yourself whatever you like.

To be honest, all of your misplaced accusations of sexism, homophobia and misogyny just sound like a load of "White Knighting" on your part in the hope of impressing Trans readers.

You say that in the past I have searched the forum to drag up posts made years ago? Simply not true. This is the first time I have ever referenced a past post and it was made a couple of weeks ago.

And you are always welcome to rebuke my bullshit. That's half the fun of forums.

You're right about us not meeting in the pub. I'd be the one at the bar doing shots with the Ladyboys and you'd be the one in the corner referencing footnote quotes from dead Italian physicists and dead French philosophers while bemoaning others for not having comedic references that are up to date enough for your taste.

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Call bullshit all you like; you are of course entitled to your opinion I just don't agree with you. White Knighting.. so often a term used by those that say offensive things to try and mask their own failings; you're not far away from crying fake news like Trump.

I have no desire to read your previous posts to see if they justify you saying things that I believe are wrong on a separate occasion either. You can suggest it was said jokingly (often another way for people to try and justify being offensive) I don't really believe that.

You missed the point about your comedic references clearly by the way; it's not about how up to date they are in terms of time but in their sensibilities. You referenced Frankie Boyle an awful comedian whose MO is to say unfiltered, offensive and hurtful things about people he has no respect for and then use the excuse "it's comedy"; comedic taste is one thing I quite enjoy plenty of current comedians just not the ones that enjoy scraping the bottom of the barrel for their cheap laughs.

I might have references from dead people on my post(s) footnote but at least they were people capable of rational thought without playing to the lowest common denominator; also last I checked this is a written/typed forum not the pub so they seem fairly appropriate here. Next time in the pub I'll be the one having a pleasant evening with some friends whilst you peek in the window from under your bridge as you play fantasy land in your head and imagine being surrounded at the bar.

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Lester, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on pretty much your whole post.

Me suggestion jokingly that Holzz is "in the closet" does not equate to me claiming that all men who are attracted to Trans women are gay, no mater how hard you may try to portray it as such for your own ends.

If you actually read my posts you would see that I am a straight guy in a relationship with a trans woman. My opinion however, is that to be somewhat penis obsessed, you might be open to the possibility that you are, to some extent, gay or bi.

Since meeting my OH and deciding I actually quite like cocks, I'm happy to call myself bi. You can call yourself whatever you like.

To be honest, all of your misplaced accusations of sexism, homophobia and misogyny just sound like a load of "White Knighting" on your part in the hope of impressing Trans readers.

You say that in the past I have searched the forum to drag up posts made years ago? Simply not true. This is the first time I have ever referenced a past post and it was made a couple of weeks ago.

And you are always welcome to rebuke my bullshit. That's half the fun of forums.

You're right about us not meeting in the pub. I'd be the one at the bar doing shots with the Ladyboys and you'd be the one in the corner referencing footnote quotes from dead Italian physicists and dead French philosophers while bemoaning others for not having comedic references that are up to date enough for your taste.

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Wow. This conversation between you two is seemingly going to last forever. I'm with you though on the point that if one likes cock, which is a male sexual organ, that individual is not 100% straight, which is why I refer to myself as bisexual. I am not into masculinity whatsoever. But a feminine male, or a transsexual girl is what I truly fancy. I personally much prefer cock over vagina, so to call myself straight seems a bit ridiculous to me.

Some people seem to have an obsession with being "straight" because of some stigma of being thought of as gay. Labels are silly at the end of the day. Like I said in a previous post, I think we should all be in touch with who we are and be happy, (gay haha), that we have found out that we like TS girls and femboys. I'm a much happier man because of it. It makes sense now why I got board with sex so often when I was with genetic girls. For me, sex is just too limited with them.

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Wow. This conversation between you two is seemingly going to last forever. I'm with you though on the point that if one likes cock, which is a male sexual organ, that individual is not 100% straight, which is why I refer to myself as bisexual. I am not into masculinity whatsoever. But a feminine male, or a transsexual girl is what I truly fancy. I personally much prefer cock over vagina, so to call myself straight seems a bit ridiculous to me.

Some people seem to have an obsession with being "straight" because of some stigma of being thought of as gay. Labels are silly at the end of the day. Like I said in a previous post, I think we should all be in touch with who we are and be happy, (gay haha), that we have found out that we like TS girls and femboys. I'm a much happier man because of it. It makes sense now why I got board with sex so often when I was with genetic girls. For me, sex is just too limited with them.

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I agree. Don't get hung up on labels. Whatever turns you on is whatever turns you on. I like this music video which offers up a third option beyond gay or straight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUDab9piv_U

Bored, not board from my previous post.

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I agree. Don't get hung up on labels. Whatever turns you on is whatever turns you on. I like this music video which offers up a third option beyond gay or straight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUDab9piv_U

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LMAO! This is fucking hilarious! Thanks for posting.

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

Wow. This conversation between you two is seemingly going to last forever. I'm with you though on the point that if one likes cock, which is a male sexual organ, that individual is not 100% straight, which is why I refer to myself as bisexual. I am not into masculinity whatsoever. But a feminine male, or a transsexual girl is what I truly fancy. I personally much prefer cock over vagina, so to call myself straight seems a bit ridiculous to me.

Some people seem to have an obsession with being "straight" because of some stigma of being thought of as gay. Labels are silly at the end of the day. Like I said in a previous post, I think we should all be in touch with who we are and be happy, (gay haha), that we have found out that we like TS girls and femboys. I'm a much happier man because of it. It makes sense now why I got board with sex so often when I was with genetic girls. For me, sex is just too limited with them.

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Completely agree with you about it being a shame so many guys have hang ups about being referred to as anything other than straight. It’s this king of ego driven self denial that keeps the prejudices toward any sexuality other than straight alive.

The sooner more people are happy to admit that they are what they are the sooner society will move away from the polarising views of sexuality that it has.

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Call bullshit all you like; you are of course entitled to your opinion I just don't agree with you. White Knighting.. so often a term used by those that say offensive things to try and mask their own failings; you're not far away from crying fake news like Trump.

I have no desire to read your previous posts to see if they justify you saying things that I believe are wrong on a separate occasion either. You can suggest it was said jokingly (often another way for people to try and justify being offensive) I don't really believe that.

You missed the point about your comedic references clearly by the way; it's not about how up to date they are in terms of time but in their sensibilities. You referenced Frankie Boyle an awful comedian whose MO is to say unfiltered, offensive and hurtful things about people he has no respect for and then use the excuse "it's comedy"; comedic taste is one thing I quite enjoy plenty of current comedians just not the ones that enjoy scraping the bottom of the barrel for their cheap laughs.

I might have references from dead people on my post(s) footnote but at least they were people capable of rational thought without playing to the lowest common denominator; also last I checked this is a written/typed forum not the pub so they seem fairly appropriate here. Next time in the pub I'll be the one having a pleasant evening with some friends whilst you peek in the window from under your bridge as you play fantasy land in your head and imagine being surrounded at the bar.

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Lester, you need to look up “White Knighting”. You clearly don’t understand the term.

As for your near obsessive issue with Frankie Boyle, I had no idea the Narnia gag came from him but regardless how offensive you may find him, it’s a good gag. Get over it.

As for “you’ll be looking through the widow”, no, I literally meant my usual Friday night is doing shots with a crowd of ladyboys. that bit wasn’t a gag aimed at making you feel envious. It’s was a discription if my social life.

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Lester, you need to look up “White Knighting”. You clearly don’t understand the term.

As for your near obsessive issue with Frankie Boyle, I had no idea the Narnia gag came from him but regardless how offensive you may find him, it’s a good gag. Get over it.

As for “you’ll be looking through the widow”, no, I literally meant my usual Friday night is doing shots with a crowd of ladyboys. that bit wasn’t a gag aimed at making you feel envious. It’s was a discription if my social life.

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I know exactly what White Knighting is; my point was you were trying to distract from your own failings by deflecting.

It's not a good gag.

Your usual Friday night? Doing shots at a crowded bar in Hampshire full of Ladyboys... pull the other one. I'm wouldn't be jealous regardless even if it was close to reality; I can think of better things to do than doing shots, I like my liver healthy and intact thanks.

As you mentioned above Lester, you didn't bother reading the preceding comments which is why you took a comedic reference completely out of context. That's your failing.

And it is fair to say there are not many crowded bars in Andover and if there were, my partner is literally the only Ladyboy in the village.

Just as well we live in Birmingham at the weekend where the Thai and Filipino trans community is thriving.

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As you mentioned above Lester, you didn't bother reading the preceding comments which is why you took a comedic reference completely out of context. That's your failing.

And it is fair to say there are not many crowded bars in Andover and if there were, my partner is literally the only Ladyboy in the village.

Just as well we live in Birmingham at the weekend where the Thai and Filipino trans community is thriving.

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Whether something is in or out of context is no defence for certain comments.

Let me be clear; I despise labels of all sorts; it is redundant thinking born from social constructionism where people feel forced into placing themselves into neatly labelled categories for those that can't cope with "different". People can be whatever they like as far as I'm concerned so labelling someone as gay, straight or whatever (whether it be serious or meant in humour) only services to prop up that kind of backward thinking.

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Whether something is in or out of context is no defence for certain comments.

Let me be clear; I despise labels of all sorts; it is redundant thinking born from social constructionism where people feel forced into placing themselves into neatly labelled categories for those that can't cope with "different". People can be whatever they like as far as I'm concerned so labelling someone as gay, straight or whatever (whether it be serious or meant in humour) only services to prop up that kind of backward thinking.

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BOOM! and there's the point. I wasn't the one doing the labelling, Holzz was as he seems to see "gay" as something he needs to distance himself from by laying claim to only being attracted to femininity.

Which is why my rebuke pointed to the somewhat less than feminine attributes of his chosen partners and followed up with a comedic reference to how "gay" he was.

You see in some instances, context is everything.