8 big names speak out of abuse from christian

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPervySage

Verbal and non verbal cues given. Lets not act like body language is no longer taken into consideration.


"I'd prefer not to mention everything he did, but one thing that angered me quite a bit was the choking. The universal sign to ease up on choking is a tap, I tapped Christian several times and he didn't stop choking me."-Oriana Frost

"We got into his car and he immediately tried kissing me, french kissing me. I pulled away and he took me to my hotel (that I had to pay for)."-Oriana Frost

"There, after a god damn ten hour flight that should have been 5 hours max, he explained that he needed to film a "teaser" for the videos. I declined because I looked and felt like hell. He kept persisting and I relented, at no time was I told that this "teaser" would be sold, he described in such a way that it seemed very much like a trailer for the scenes."-Oriana Frost

"During this wait Christian approached me again, grabbed me by the waist and tried making out with me. I pushed away and told him that I wasn't interested in doing anything I wasn't hired for, and that I would wait for Damien. Christian said, "It wouldn't kill you to be affectionate." To which I replied, "I will be when we start filming." Christian walked away and was distant and sulky for the majority of the day."-Oriana Frost

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So rejected kisses and asking someone you hired to film to shoot a teaser is rape ? Oriana’s entire story is filled with complaints from having to pay for her own hotel to not liking how Christian’s ass feels. Really. Is that part of the abuse? That you don’t like how the inside of his ass feels? It’s easy to tell she’s reaching for every possible angle to smear Christian but there’s no real abuse. So then she writes this long long very long story framing the entire experience as holistically unpleasant to make him seem like a monster.

In her story he can’t win. He tries to kiss her, she rejects him. Then the very next sentence is how he was “distant and sulky” the rest of the day. Cmon. That’s the most loaded negative way to write that he left you alone like you asked.

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Originally Posted by Michelle Firestone

So rejected kisses and asking someone you hired to film to shoot a teaser is rape ? Oriana’s entire story is filled with complaints from having to pay for her own hotel to not liking how Christian’s ass feels. Really. Is that part of the abuse? That you don’t like how the inside of his ass feels? It’s easy to tell she’s reaching for every possible angle to smear Christian but there’s no real abuse. So then she writes this long long very long story framing the entire experience as holistically unpleasant to make him seem like a monster.

In her story he can’t win. He tries to kiss her, she rejects him. Then the very next sentence is how he was “distant and sulky” the rest of the day. Cmon. That’s the most loaded negative way to write that he left you alone like you asked.

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When did I say rape? Your quote, "sex, drugs, hurt feelings, disrespect, or whatever" obviously implies anything from being unprofessionally annoying to full on ignoring one's physical limitations. You clearly chose ignore the other parts of her story as well as focus on full on rape even though that's not what your quote was limited to. You chose to ignore the choking incident and focus on the hotel incident trying to make Oriana seem as petty as possible even after I listed specific quotes. If she's reaching for the abuse claims, you're about 20 times as worse by ignoring whats right in front of your face by trying to defend him.

Of course she rejected his kiss. They weren't filming at the time. "Distant and sulky" is hardly loaded when you have more serious accusations in the story.

Your positive experience doesn't negate anyone else's negative experience.

Also, this is a smaller issue compared to physically violating one's consent, but since when is being upset about the person who hired you not following through on their financial obligations(hotel, food, etc.) a bad thing? Since when is a lack of professionalism something to not be upset about?

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Originally Posted by Post Op Preferred

HA has an abundance of number crunching talent in Red Vex, Kelli Blu and Trish. So here's another crunch, with input from CXXX requested. We have 8 complaints. CXXX, how many different talents have appeared on your T-ecosystem inception to date. If any others want to voice complaints, let them speak or forever hold their peace. Let Grooby Steven weigh in on whether CXXX's complaints ratio is out of line with industry standards. If he is, I suspect he'll figure out a solution, being the savvy marketer that he is. And let's stop vilifying industry participants for speaking on this. Sex harassment complaints in porn are a new frontier. Mistakes will be made, and hopefully will be rectified, not punished.

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"forever hold their peace"

What?...


"Mistakes"


What?...

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Originally Posted by Post Op Preferred

Let Grooby Steven weigh in on whether CXXX's complaints ratio is out of line with industry standards. If he is, I suspect he'll figure out a solution, being the savvy marketer that he is.

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I'm not qualified to discuss anything other than my own companies or my own personal experiences.
Overall we get very little complaints over the male performers or producers that have worked for us over the years. With Some producers have swiftly exited the company during that time.
10,000 or more models worked with, many multiple times.

I've heard favorable and disparaging things about CXXX over the years. Don't really read to much into it because most the time it all boils down to one thing. Being a victim. I'm not taking anything away from what the experiences the girls may or may not have had nor am I condemning anyone. In today's society, being a victim seems like a profession. Why? Because by being a victim, a person is not held accountable for their behavior and poor life decisions. When someone is embracing the victim mentality and seeing the world as a threat, where people are doing things "to them" rather than just doing them despite the fact that someone else doesn't prefer it, it is, in a way, a form of narcissism. The person is unable to understand how he or she was not too important to treat this way, or centers themselves in what they imagine to be the other person's thought process, i.e.: girl didn't enjoy doing a scene with him, says nothing. The flood of #metoo accusations is getting bigger and gaining speed. Girl digs deep into her memory to find any situation that could be used and twisted so she can be #metoo. Might as well say "There must be some reason for (career failure/no work/shitty pay etc), I dont want it to be merit-based, so I'm going to say you're being evil to me thats why I'm screwed"

On a side note: How do I like or unlike someones post. I don't see any like button or thumbs up/down.

This thread is coming across as a bunch of drama queens acting like drama queens.

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Originally Posted by xplanetx

I've heard favorable and disparaging things about CXXX over the years. Don't really read to much into it because most the time it all boils down to one thing. Being a victim. I'm not taking anything away from what the experiences the girls may or may not have had nor am I condemning anyone. In today's society, being a victim seems like a profession. Why? Because by being a victim, a person is not held accountable for their behavior and poor life decisions. When someone is embracing the victim mentality and seeing the world as a threat, where people are doing things "to them" rather than just doing them despite the fact that someone else doesn't prefer it, it is, in a way, a form of narcissism. The person is unable to understand how he or she was not too important to treat this way, or centers themselves in what they imagine to be the other person's thought process, i.e.: girl didn't enjoy doing a scene with him, says nothing. The flood of #metoo accusations is getting bigger and gaining speed. Girl digs deep into her memory to find any situation that could be used and twisted so she can be #metoo. Might as well say "There must be some reason for (career failure/no work/shitty pay etc), I dont want it to be merit-based, so I'm going to say you're being evil to me thats why I'm screwed"

On a side note: How do I like or unlike someones post. I don't see any like button or thumbs up/down.

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Regardless of what the actual situation is with these performers and Christian (only they will ever know the real truth I believe) I just wanted to point out that you have immediately contradicted yourself in what you have said.

I suspect you have never been the victim of any abuse (or realised you were yet) as your words show a complete lack of empathy for any one who has suffered from it. Being a victim is not a "profession" and victims aren't narcissists; your suggestion that is what victims are implies you are quite a cold and unfeeling individual - I pity you for that.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPervySage

When did I say rape? Your quote, "sex, drugs, hurt feelings, disrespect, or whatever" obviously implies anything from being unprofessionally annoying to full on ignoring one's physical limitations. You clearly chose ignore the other parts of her story as well as focus on full on rape even though that's not what your quote was limited to. You chose to ignore the choking incident and focus on the hotel incident trying to make Oriana seem as petty as possible even after I listed specific quotes. If she's reaching for the abuse claims, you're about 20 times as worse by ignoring whats right in front of your face by trying to defend him.

Of course she rejected his kiss. They weren't filming at the time. "Distant and sulky" is hardly loaded when you have more serious accusations in the story.

Your positive experience doesn't negate anyone else's negative experience.

Also, this is a smaller issue compared to physically violating one's consent, but since when is being upset about the person who hired you not following through on their financial obligations(hotel, food, etc.) a bad thing? Since when is a lack of professionalism something to not be upset about?

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I’m not ignoring it. Choking is a part of porn. So is ass to mouth and slapping. I don’t believe Christian would purposely choke too long or after tapping out. She included the chair being uncomfortable like it’s an offense to her by Christian himself. Plus tons of other inconsequential things. With the context and tone of her story I feel like any choking at all would be described later as too much and malicious. No matter what actually happened.

Yes absolutely I’m saying she is being as petty as possible. That’s what she’s doing. You don’t find what they’re doing disparaging to victims of actual abuse? No, it’s not ok to not pay someone. Yes, it’s ok to tell people he didn’t pay what he said. That’s obvious. I don’t care to talk about that because they’re calling him an abuser, and I don’t believe it. That’s kinda what I’m focusing on.

She obviously had a bad experience. She said she quit porn right after, so I think it’s safe to say she made the wrong choice to perform in the first place? Or at least if there’s sex acts that are going to instantly turn the situation from normal everyday scene into emotional distress then she should probably mention it. Or communicate and after the first limit was broken stop and make it clear what is and isn’t ok. Otherwise if you don’t do that, you’ll have a bad time making porn when your limits keep getting broken and no one but you has any idea.

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Originally Posted by Michelle Firestone

I’m not ignoring it. Choking is a part of porn. So is ass to mouth and slapping. I don’t believe Christian would purposely choke too long or after tapping out. She included the chair being uncomfortable like it’s an offense to her by Christian himself. Plus tons of other inconsequential things. With the context and tone of her story I feel like any choking at all would be described later as too much and malicious. No matter what actually happened.

Yes absolutely I’m saying she is being as petty as possible. That’s what she’s doing. You don’t find what they’re doing disparaging to victims of actual abuse? No, it’s not ok to not pay someone. Yes, it’s ok to tell people he didn’t pay what he said. That’s obvious. I don’t care to talk about that because they’re calling him an abuser, and I don’t believe it. That’s kinda what I’m focusing on.

She obviously had a bad experience. She said she quit porn right after, so I think it’s safe to say she made the wrong choice to perform in the first place? Or at least if there’s sex acts that are going to instantly turn the situation from normal everyday scene into emotional distress then she should probably mention it. Or communicate and after the first limit was broken stop and make it clear what is and isn’t ok. Otherwise if you don’t do that, you’ll have a bad time making porn when your limits keep getting broken and no one but you has any idea.

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ver nice michelle ... i like your views on porn . they are brilliant

I kinda know Christian... not personally but Ive known the guy for like 10 years online and I always hear him getting shit. Forum posters acting like they know the guy from what they "know" from what they have read online. Which means nothing. Unless you know the guy personally, just shut up.

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Originally Posted by Michelle Firestone

I’m not ignoring it. Choking is a part of porn. So is ass to mouth and slapping. I don’t believe Christian would purposely choke too long or after tapping out. She included the chair being uncomfortable like it’s an offense to her by Christian himself. Plus tons of other inconsequential things. With the context and tone of her story I feel like any choking at all would be described later as too much and malicious. No matter what actually happened.

Yes absolutely I’m saying she is being as petty as possible. That’s what she’s doing. You don’t find what they’re doing disparaging to victims of actual abuse? No, it’s not ok to not pay someone. Yes, it’s ok to tell people he didn’t pay what he said. That’s obvious. I don’t care to talk about that because they’re calling him an abuser, and I don’t believe it. That’s kinda what I’m focusing on.

She obviously had a bad experience. She said she quit porn right after, so I think it’s safe to say she made the wrong choice to perform in the first place? Or at least if there’s sex acts that are going to instantly turn the situation from normal everyday scene into emotional distress then she should probably mention it. Or communicate and after the first limit was broken stop and make it clear what is and isn’t ok. Otherwise if you don’t do that, you’ll have a bad time making porn when your limits keep getting broken and no one but you has any idea.

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Choking is apart of porn just like DPs, spitting or hard spanking is apart of porn. Not everyone does those acts because not everyone likes it. And again, your experience doesn't negate hers. You don't believe he would go overboard with the choking, but Oriana's story says otherwise. Whether they are true or not is another story but I'm looking at applying her experience universally. Regardless of intent, the responsibility still falls on him. He's supposed to meet her halfway. She did her part(she tapped), he did not (he didn't let up). He either didn't care or he was so into the moment and detached from her that it just didn't register. Either way, it is inexcusable on his part. Supposed pettiness aside, you can still pick out several of the more serious issues.

You discounting her accounts by pulling the "what about 'real' victims?" shows how far you are willing to go to excuse his behavior. Ignoring someone's physical limitations/consent is abuse.

"Wrong choice" is not because of her. She wasn't the offender. That's like saying Nancy Kerrigan made a mistake by pursuing ice skating in the Olympics because Tanya Harding had someone kneecap her and then Nancy getting on television and saying Tonya's ice skates were and ugly color. It doesn't matter if there are a few petty things sprinkled in there. Real issues are still at the forefront.

Like I mentioned before, she expressed her displeasure verbally(telling him that she's not doing anything that didn't pertain to the scene on camera) and physically (pushing him away when he tried to kiss her, tapping him when he choked her). She made her feelings clear. You say you aren't ignoring it but if you don't see the clarity in some of her boundaries, then you are.

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Originally Posted by Michelle Firestone

I’m not ignoring it. Choking is a part of porn. So is ass to mouth and slapping. I don’t believe Christian would purposely choke too long or after tapping out. She included the chair being uncomfortable like it’s an offense to her by Christian himself. Plus tons of other inconsequential things. With the context and tone of her story I feel like any choking at all would be described later as too much and malicious. No matter what actually happened.

Yes absolutely I’m saying she is being as petty as possible. That’s what she’s doing. You don’t find what they’re doing disparaging to victims of actual abuse? No, it’s not ok to not pay someone. Yes, it’s ok to tell people he didn’t pay what he said. That’s obvious. I don’t care to talk about that because they’re calling him an abuser, and I don’t believe it. That’s kinda what I’m focusing on.

She obviously had a bad experience. She said she quit porn right after, so I think it’s safe to say she made the wrong choice to perform in the first place? Or at least if there’s sex acts that are going to instantly turn the situation from normal everyday scene into emotional distress then she should probably mention it. Or communicate and after the first limit was broken stop and make it clear what is and isn’t ok. Otherwise if you don’t do that, you’ll have a bad time making porn when your limits keep getting broken and no one but you has any idea.

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You'd clearly jump through hoops to defend this asshole, regardless of allegations

One word to Christian. Unless you're getting fucked, I ain't watching your videos.

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Originally Posted by GroobySteven

At a webmaster show in London. Will answer over the weekend or earlier when I get a break.

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Hi Steven, If you do chose to address this, it might workout better as a post on your blog, since at times this thread gets a little derailed.
For those that haven't clicked on it yet, Steven's blog can be quite informative. Makes a good read.

the point about uncomfy chair (and the whole thread) reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY&t=279s

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPervySage

Choking is apart of porn just like DPs, spitting or hard spanking is apart of porn. Not everyone does those acts because not everyone likes it. And again, your experience doesn't negate hers. You don't believe he would go overboard with the choking, but Oriana's story says otherwise. Whether they are true or not is another story but I'm looking at applying her experience universally. Regardless of intent, the responsibility still falls on him. He's supposed to meet her halfway. She did her part(she tapped), he did not (he didn't let up). He either didn't care or he was so into the moment and detached from her that it just didn't register. Either way, it is inexcusable on his part. Supposed pettiness aside, you can still pick out several of the more serious issues.

You discounting her accounts by pulling the "what about 'real' victims?" shows how far you are willing to go to excuse his behavior. Ignoring someone's physical limitations/consent is abuse.

"Wrong choice" is not because of her. She wasn't the offender. That's like saying Nancy Kerrigan made a mistake by pursuing ice skating in the Olympics because Tanya Harding had someone kneecap her and then Nancy getting on television and saying Tonya's ice skates were and ugly color. It doesn't matter if there are a few petty things sprinkled in there. Real issues are still at the forefront.

Like I mentioned before, she expressed her displeasure verbally(telling him that she's not doing anything that didn't pertain to the scene on camera) and physically (pushing him away when he tried to kiss her, tapping him when he choked her). She made her feelings clear. You say you aren't ignoring it but if you don't see the clarity in some of her boundaries, then you are.

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i love how because Oriana Frost said it then it must be 100 percent true. don't ask for the other side of the story, don't look any deeper into it...she said it so its 100 percent a fact. truly the mark of a super fanboi.

i mean oriana frost has no problem going nuts about how terrible the trip was, but then you are supposed to believe that i choked her almost to unconciousness and she just took it and didn't say anything? so she refused to let me kiss her but choking is fine? I also want to point out that these scenes happened about 3 years ago but Oriana somehow remembers every single detail like it was yesterday.

Look I will admit that I booked her for those scenes in some of my first attempts to produce content that I paid for rather than just trading content with other models. She was one of the first girls that I paid for her flight. I made a lot of mistakes on that trip, but one of my mistakes was not realizing Oriana doesn't like men, doesn't like authority, doesn't like anyone telling her what to do, and doesn't like sex in general. I had no idea about any of this because I only met her online. Sometimes as a producer you learn the hard way that some models aren't cut out for this biz. Going to a set where you are about to be intimate and telling someone that you don't want to be intimate isn't really going to make the day better. You do realize that in order to perform a sex scene that the male performer has to have a hard cock right? Try going into a room with a girl that tells you she wants nothing to do with you and then get your dick hard and keep it hard.

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Originally Posted by LongTom101

You'd clearly jump through hoops to defend this asshole, regardless of allegations

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haha i've only met her twice briefly and never hired and never worked with her. She is simply stating logical facts and not being a super fanboi like yourself.

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Originally Posted by christianxxx

i love how because Oriana Frost said it then it must be 100 percent true. don't ask for the other side of the story, don't look any deeper into it...she said it so its 100 percent a fact. truly the mark of a super fanboi.

i mean oriana frost has no problem going nuts about how terrible the trip was, but then you are supposed to believe that i choked her almost to unconciousness and she just took it and didn't say anything? so she refused to let me kiss her but choking is fine? I also want to point out that these scenes happened about 3 years ago but Oriana somehow remembers every single detail like it was yesterday.

Look I will admit that I booked her for those scenes in some of my first attempts to produce content that I paid for rather than just trading content with other models. She was one of the first girls that I paid for her flight. I made a lot of mistakes on that trip, but one of my mistakes was not realizing Oriana doesn't like men, doesn't like authority, doesn't like anyone telling her what to do, and doesn't like sex in general. I had no idea about any of this because I only met her online. Sometimes as a producer you learn the hard way that some models aren't cut out for this biz. Going to a set where you are about to be intimate and telling someone that you don't want to be intimate isn't really going to make the day better. You do realize that in order to perform a sex scene that the male performer has to have a hard cock right? Try going into a room with a girl that tells you she wants nothing to do with you and then get your dick hard and keep it hard.

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Aye, like I said earlier, whether or not Oriana is telling the truth is an entirely different story. As of right now, the screenshots only prove that you are creepy, immature and a diva. And if you haven't noticed, you have some fanboys/fangirls caping for you.

Also, like she mentioned, she tapped you when she was being choked. Everyone knows what tapping means. You don't need to verbalize it(although it certainly would've helped to do that as well). You really think someone can't recall a story from three whole years ago in detail? Especially one that is particularly memorable to the one telling it? In all your years of living, you've never heard anyone recall an event in detail that happened three or more years ago?......Aight man...

And everything else you mentioned, I guess those are the challenges of porn. If her story is true and the initial interaction and the following ones throughout the day before the shoot were as bad as how she presented it, obviously she isn't going to be in an intimate mood. I don't know what to tell you. Finally, just because she isn't into you doesn't mean she isn't into men. She said she's into younger, toned guys.

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Originally Posted by christianxxx

i love how because Oriana Frost said it then it must be 100 percent true. don't ask for the other side of the story, don't look any deeper into it...she said it so its 100 percent a fact.

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Dude, it's not like you haven't had ample opportunity to refute any or all of the allegations. No one is censoring you. No one has declared you guilty. No one has called you a liar.

I AM SURE WE ALL WANT TO HEAR YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY. But you really haven't given it. It's a week since the original post and still, unless I've missed the post, you haven't said straight up, these incidents didn't happen. Or even, a simple, maybe I fucked up.

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Originally Posted by christianxxx

I made a lot of mistakes on that trip...

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Above is the closest you've come to taking any sort of responsibility and that's just to preface saying that Oriana was really at fault because she doesn't like men, etc., etc.

No denial and no taking of responsibility. What are we supposed to think? They're all lying and/or exaggerating and you didn't do any of this shit when (and correct me if I'm wrong) you never said you didn't.

i've seen your work Christian, and i like how you've got many of the top names in TS porn. i don't believe in envy, but youve fucked/been fucked by people i'd anything to fuck/get fucked by.

but then if these allegations aren't true, have you pissed/ticked anybody off? or made enemies? envious people want to fuck you up? either way, get a lawyer, or get them to put up or shut up.

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Originally Posted by holzz

i've seen your work Christian, and i like how you've got many of the top names in TS porn. i don't believe in envy, but youve fucked/been fucked by people i'd anything to fuck/get fucked by.

but then if these allegations aren't true, have you pissed/ticked anybody off? or made enemies? envious people want to fuck you up? either way, get a lawyer, or get them to put up or shut up.

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LOL. Lawyer for what?? Just notice the crew that's behind these allegations.
That will tell you all you need to know.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Just notice the crew that's behind these allegations.

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If you’re going to impugn these women’s characters then provide some evidence.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

LOL. Lawyer for what?? Just notice the crew that's behind these allegations.
That will tell you all you need to know.

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If he believed the allegations were untrue then there should/could be a number of legal options to look at, including taking a look at Jamie's site on what the intentions are.
These would be costly, to all parties and ultimately even if the allegations were proven to be unfounded and he did win* then it there would still be no winning side. The allegations would always be out there, the legal costs would far outweigh any punitive damages you could expect to get back from the accusers and it would just be a loss/loss.

it sounds the right thing to do, to get lawyers involved if you feel someone is slandering you, but having been on the brunt of enough, and taken action against people, it's rarely worth it.

* hypothetically - I have no first hand knowledge of any of these.

OK

so i've seen posts here citing the allegations (stress..ALLEGATIONS) of him groping girls is "oh, that's nothing!" or "whatever, babe.." or "get over it, girl."

groping is assault. not even sexual assault, but a common assault under the law. in some cases, actually, it is a sexual assault. IF (and IF) these points are true, then it's wrong to do it.

to be fair, i remember Jamie Frenh on this board, and she was a bit of a bitch to be honest, but still doesn't warrant ANYBODy being groped. nobody should face that, no matter who they are.

defending groping, even AS it's an allegation, hahaha. PATHETIC.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

LOL. Lawyer for what?? Just notice the crew that's behind these allegations.
That will tell you all you need to know.

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I don't know who is true or not.

But it's common sense. if it's a whole load of crap, then christian's business in porn is finished, period. and surely the girls know if they are chatting shit, then THEY are finished.

and wihtout being funny or bad....trans women have enough troubles, without a failed porn career from defamatory comments.....

i'm not defending any side here. the girls made seom pretty serious allegations, and I'm sure christian is smart would weigh up his actions.

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Originally Posted by Michelle Firestone

So rejected kisses and asking someone you hired to film to shoot a teaser is rape ? Oriana’s entire story is filled with complaints from having to pay for her own hotel to not liking how Christian’s ass feels. Really. Is that part of the abuse? That you don’t like how the inside of his ass feels? It’s easy to tell she’s reaching for every possible angle to smear Christian but there’s no real abuse. So then she writes this long long very long story framing the entire experience as holistically unpleasant to make him seem like a monster.

In her story he can’t win. He tries to kiss her, she rejects him. Then the very next sentence is how he was “distant and sulky” the rest of the day. Cmon. That’s the most loaded negative way to write that he left you alone like you asked.

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with all due respect, some of the stories talk about unwanted advances, groping, etc. would you like to be groped? who would?

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Originally Posted by holzz

But it's common sense. if it's a whole load of crap, then christian's business in porn is finished, period. and surely the girls know if they are chatting shit, then THEY are finished.

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I wouldn't say either of those things would happen.

so then is it just "they said, he said"?

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Originally Posted by holzz

so then is it just "they said, he said"?

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Unless someone took legal action, then it's just that.

I personally think there’s no smoke without fire. And if there’s almost double figures of people complaining....

I saw a tv show a few years back, this young porn actress was took to America by a UK big name producer. He took her around a few studios, in pvc mini skirt and holding her hand. She was taken to see Maxxx Hardcore, he Pretty much molested/shoved his cock inside her in his office after 3 mins. She then went to work on one of his scenes, but it was way too extreme for her, she had no idea who he was...she stopped wasn’t comfortable at all, he ended up just shouting at her.

I think some people in the industry take advance of the new young actresses to say the very least...

I have some problem to understand this. In the podcast Stefani Special is talking against Christian xxx. In the same time there are 3 clips of her on Christians website. How can this be that she makes some movies with him while she calls the girls not to do that?

The HA communists are jealous because he is making 300 films per year and making big money. I have no issues with Christian except clearly he is a cum dodger. He needs to swallow his medicine.

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Originally Posted by BostonBad

The HA communists are jealous because he is making 300 films per year and making big money. I have no issues with Christian except clearly he is a cum dodger. He needs to swallow his medicine.

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Not sure where you're getting that, but... whatever.

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Originally Posted by holzz

I don't know who is true or not.

But it's common sense. if it's a whole load of crap, then christian's business in porn is finished, period. and surely the girls know if they are chatting shit, then THEY are finished.

and wihtout being funny or bad....trans women have enough troubles, without a failed porn career from defamatory comments.....

i'm not defending any side here. the girls made seom pretty serious allegations, and I'm sure christian is smart would weigh up his actions.

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I don't know where you live, but in my city 'groping', such as grabbing a woman's breast, is a MISDEMEANOR.
Meaning fines for court costs and if you have no priors, NO jail time.

Why should someone's entire porn business be taken away because of an allegation of groping??smh

Stop 'caping for these chicks. The charges for most of them are highly exaggerated and they diminish those women who are truly victims of sexual assault.

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Originally Posted by shushu

I have some problem to understand this. In the podcast Stefani Special is talking against Christian xxx. In the same time there are 3 clips of her on Christians website. How can this be that she makes some movies with him while she calls the girls not to do that?

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she moved in with Jamie French that's what happened. lol

why don't they just sue him?

posting on a website, of Web 1.0 design no less (looks like it...) is not enough. it will remain just allegations. and allegations mean shit, since they can be concocted.

i have no dog in this fight, but then it looks bad on them if they don't take firm legal action.

that said, and i know Christian posted just above this, he should be getting info to prove them wrong. either way, both Chrisitan and the girls should do more, since their careers are fucked from many levels. if the girls are lying, then no matter how hot they are, or passable, or how big their dicks/boobs are, who will hire liars? and if Christian is indeed a "predator" then that fucks him up too.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

I don't know where you live, but in my city 'groping', such as grabbing a woman's breast, is a MISDEMEANOR.
Meaning fines for court costs and if you have no priors, NO jail time.

Why should someone's entire porn business be taken away because of an allegation of groping??smh

Stop 'caping for these chicks. The charges for most of them are highly exaggerated and they diminish those women who are truly victims of sexual assault.

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It's an assault in many places, and in my country is an indictable offence (equivalent of your felony).

just posting on some site is not enough, they need hard proof, and it reflects badly on them.

It could affect their careers, if this is all bull. Any man would be sceptical, since even a well-intentioned gesture could be "abuse". what makes you think i'm defending either party? I don't know the girls nor Christian, and neither has made a good case imho. it's all abou nothing at this point, an i have no reason to be partial.

just both sides are saying shit, and it looks like "they said, he said".

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Originally Posted by holzz

It's an assault in many places, and in my country is an indictable offence (equivalent of your felony).

just posting on some site is not enough, they need hard proof, and it reflects badly on them.

It could affect their careers, if this is all bull. Any man would be sceptical, since even a well-intentioned gesture could be "abuse". what makes you think i'm defending either party? I don't know the girls nor Christian, and neither has made a good case imho. it's all abou nothing at this point, an i have no reason to be partial.

just both sides are saying shit, and it looks like "they said, he said".

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how exactly could it affect my career at all? i'm serious - what could they possibly do to me?

Yeyeyeye. Serious shit maaan. Someone got offended OMFG!! that is SERIOUS BUSINESS

Sooo, when are you popping down to Bristol so we can do some content swap that I am too lazy to use on my webshite and you can fuck my ass silly before the shoot, Christian? xD

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Originally Posted by christianxxx

how exactly could it affect my career at all? i'm serious - what could they possibly do to me?

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just saying you and them have to have your shit together, that's all.