Re: Examining Trans Attraction
Here is my 2 cents on this.. As the topic has always been and intriguing one to me.
I actually only recently found my own personal resolution to this after dating a transwomen whilst visiting the Philippines.
Here is my answer in simple form: It doesn't matter. As easy at that, no one needs to explain why some men are trans attracted, and some aren't. There is no need to define the attraction because it's not important. It just is what it is.
The reason in my opinion for everyone to have to put a label on this is because of a societal need to.. It's for everyone else's benefit, for society as a whole to label someone's attraction. Why? Because of modern societies view of transgendered women. Despite, recent exposure in mainstream media and a growing acceptance of trans celebrities.. Transwomen for the most part are still viewed as taboo, or objects of sexual fetish and so a cis man (or woman's) attraction to transwomen must carry with it a label or justification.
There is the arguement re: genitals and the question, why are men attracted to 'women with dicks?' Again it's not really important, and doesn't really need a label. I myself am 100% top, attracted to women only, and to feminity but I am neutral when it comes to genitals and thus have no preference, cis, pre op trans or post op trans women but I'm no rush to justify that, it's just the way it is for me. I am also open to giving an receiving oral sex from a cis or post op transwoman as well as pre op, as giving pleasure to a woman and not being greedy (give me all the head) is the path to a better sexual experience with that person.
There are men who are attracted to pre op trans women only. Do they need a label? No not really. They are still attracted to women, and it would be unfair to say that the pre op transwomen he is attracted to identifies as anything other than female.
I think there will always be the desire to answer the question why are men attracted to trans women, but really the answer is not important. You are attracted to whoever you're attracted to. Society is demanding an answer to your private attraction and it almost feels like the reason there is need to define your attraction is because there is something wrong with it. Let's use an example from the recent past, in the US.. White men and their attraction to black women. Until recently it was illegal for this type of marriage to exist, and society would always beg the question why? And the reason society asked that question? Because black Americans were (and still are in some cases) viewed as second clas citizens, as inferior, and so there always had to be an explanation for it.
You'll see, that if society comes to view transsexuality as non taboo, as 'normal' (I don't like the word normal but you get the gist) in our lifetime, the need to explain away trans attraction will disappear, because ultimately it's not important, it just is, like every other type of attraction.
Re: Examining Trans Attraction
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Originally Posted by
thepiedpiper
You'll see, that if society comes to view transsexuality as non taboo, as 'normal' (I don't like the word normal but you get the gist) in our lifetime, the need to explain away trans attraction will disappear, because ultimately it's not important, it just is, like every other type of attraction.
I agree with your argument to a certain extent, but by the same token there is an activism element which needs to occur to get us to the point you describe. The problem with people digging transsexuals isn't with the trans-attracted people, but with the folks who can't conceive of liking a transsexual. Unless we can help open their eyes to the diversity and normalcy of trans-attraction and help those people to understand why it's right for you to dig a TS and also equally alright for them not to, we're never going to achieve the societal acceptance.
Re: Examining Trans Attraction
my first time with a TS was in 2002. Long before Caitlyn and her family shot to fame by fucking and getting a sex tape...
I don't give a fuck if it's not "normal". if people think liking TSs is not normal, then i think they're hypocrites. very few people these days have vanilla sex likes, considering many people these days do things that people long ago thought was weird, like anal, BDSM, public sex, toys. i'm not hurting anybody, and i don't reckon it makes me nor anybody else gay. i just like a woman's body, look, mannerisms with a big cock. men with cocks make me physically cringe. and i bottom with TSs mostly, but meh, fuck society. sexuality is complex.
Re: Examining Trans Attraction
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Originally Posted by
Wendy Summers
I agree with your argument to a certain extent, but by the same token there is an activism element which needs to occur to get us to the point you describe. The problem with people digging transsexuals isn't with the trans-attracted people, but with the folks who can't conceive of liking a transsexual. Unless we can help open their eyes to the diversity and normalcy of trans-attraction and help those people to understand why it's right for you to dig a TS and also equally alright for them not to, we're never going to achieve the societal acceptance.
I agree, there has to be the activism element but that activism shouldn't be about striving to justify the attraction in the first place and instead should focus on the need to educate people to it's normalcy. Justifying things that are considered taboo only serves as an excuse and still ends devaluing a trans persons identity to that of a sexual fetish.
If everyone can value a trans woman's gender identity in the same capacity as a cis woman's or any other binary gender then the rest falls in to play I think.
Re: Examining Trans Attraction
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Wendy Summers
Judging by your typical posts here I somehow suspect pregnancy is the least of the causes of your fights.
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ha ha bite me =) you know you want to!
well i'm 38 i try and date women who are in their 30's.....and well yeah the kids thing has been a very serious issue which has led to some really bad fights.
so ha! now nibble!
Re: Examining Trans Attraction
for me it simple..I like girls but I also like cock..Ts girls are a perfect fit
