John Hurt as The Doctor!!! :D

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Originally Posted by Corran

Then why post something negative in a discussion where we're talking positively about the show. If you're not a fan, that's fine. Just no need to mention it here.

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He should have stated his viewpoint up front, that's all of 30 secs of my life I'll never get back

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Originally Posted by supersharpshooter

In the BBC tv series and the BBC film there have been 11 doctors so far, including Matt Smith.
If you take into account the films with Peter Cushing and the BBC audio series with Richard E Grant then that makes 14 doctors.
So Hurt can't be the 11th Doctor.
There is no reason to think that Hurt couldn't be a previous incarnation of Doctor Who, one who existed before Hartnell.
Hartnell was never referred to as the first doctor in any of the series so it is quite possible that although Matt Smith is the 11th/12th/joint 13th doctor in the BBC series, he may not be the 11th/12th/joint 13th Doctor in his regeneration.

Steven Moffat is a poor series producer and not a great writer, he comes up with ideas which, although seem good, quickly run out of steam. He obviously doesn't think what the ending is until during the writing of an episode. Which is never a good idea.
His episodes are lazy, with too much emphasis on the Doctors companions but he does not give them enough depth, or make them interesting enough for them to be cared about.

If Moffat has to resort to a story concerning the time war then Doctor Who will really be running out of steam.

Its far more likely the explanation of John Hurt's character will be lazy and disappointing.

I should add at this point, I think Doctor Who is crap.

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Doctor Who is crap???

So tell me, how is it the longest running show in the world?!?!? ;)

50 years of Doctor Who!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Suck my Doctor Who loving ass!

The Time War is really the only "plot hole" left to fill, doesn't mean that they are running out of stories, just that its time ( pun intended lol ) to tell the story of the Time War ( without just some short irritable soliloquy from the Doctor ) ( all will be revealed!!! ) ...with more stories after no doubt.

i love doctor who i have watched it since i was a kid.John Hurt is supposed to be the real 9th doctor who stopped the time war.I guess he is suppose to be a regeneration that the other doctors have forgotten about.

As for plot holes i think there are 2 left.One being the time war.It would be awesome that they do a spin off series with hurt playing the docotor during the time war.

the second plot hole is what is the doctors real name.Maybe not his name but what or who he is.During the 7 th doctors run he told davros that he was much more than a mear timelord.if they wouldnt of cancelled docotor who back in the late 80's they would of explored what he meant.For me i like to think of him as the other.

well i believe that the 2 holes you mentioned, they are soon taking care of it. :D

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Originally Posted by EvaCassini

well i believe that the 2 holes you mentioned, they are soon taking care of it. :D

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Yeah I like doing that too

what...filling holes?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA me too :D

John Hurt has always been terrific. The BBC in London have just been re-showing a series he was in many years ago "I, Claudius" in which he stole the show as the mad Emperor, Caligula.

Caligula's dance "I Claudius Best Moments" - YouTube

I, Claudius- Caligula speech - YouTube

He first really made his mark when he played Quentin Crisp and I saw him recently in Lars Von Trier's haunting film "Melancholia"

Nice!!!! :)

A "Doctor Zero" is more interesting to me than an 8.5. Nine and Ten already took ownership of the Doctor's actions during the time war already, so I don't know that an 8.5 adds anything new. A Doctor Zero gives more latitude in the storytelling imo.

I;m not a Whovian but grew up watching Dr Who in the 70s whenever I could (my parents hated it so wasn't always possible) but wikipedia states that there was some speculation that Hartnell may not be the first Doctor but certain episodes do clearly state he is. Sylvestor McCoy's stuff (the later seasons that I managed tio catch) implied perhaps a magical/avataric/elemental role for the Doctor but that was never really followed up on.

I've been a fan of New Who and found Moffat's stuff far less juvenile than RTD's and though I was loather to admit, I think Smith is a better Doctor than Tennant (my fave at that pont) and has had far more likable and interesting companions.

Most speculation indicate John Hurt is the true 9th Doctor but did stuff so bad, he was cut off from the main Doctor's persona when he rgenerated...obvious links hint that his sins involve the genocide of his race and the Daleks in the Time War, as well as other unknown crimes and that when he regenerated into Ecclestone, his sins were left with his past self (who is now not allowed to call himself the Doctor).

From wikipedia again, there's the possibility the Hurt Doctor could tie into the Valeyard. More will be made clear in the November special with Tennant again (Ecclestone declined the offer to return, and I ssume it will be the post-Hurt Doctors dealing with the fallout of whtever Hurt did..)

ca't wait for November 23rd!