Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
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Originally Posted by
Faith_CD
so this gay guy brought a straight guy on a national TV show to tell him he had a crush on him? ok while not deserving death, this guy is a nut. what did he expect this person's reaction to be?
it's one thing to go up to someone in public it's another to bark up the wrong tree on a national TV show.
Why should anyone have to fear telling another person that they have a crush on them?
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
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Originally Posted by
Merkurie
Why should anyone have to fear telling another person that they have a crush on them?
they shouldn't. What people should fear is living their life and never hearing it at all.
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
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Originally Posted by
Quiet Reflections
they shouldn't. What people should fear is living their life and never hearing it at all.
True.
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
You always think you’ve seen everything. Someone who kills another person because that person has a crush on him? He took a gun and just killed him. That’s so vile and disgusting it’s beyond expression. You make a whole world disappear because you don’t like that person’s attraction for you? That’s just unspeakable.
I’m not gay, but I do feel flattered when someone, anyone, tell me he or she is attracted to me. Why wouldn’t something like that be pleasing to hear? It is twisted to turn that into violence, but certainly not insane in any way, on the contrary: it reveals someone with cold, violent, fucked up values…
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
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Originally Posted by
Merkurie
Why should anyone have to fear telling another person that they have a crush on them?
i didn't say they should have to fear it but really what was this guys end game? he took a straight man onto the Jenny Jones show, which was broadcast nation wide, to tell him he had a crush on him. what exactly did he think was going to happen?
again what happened was totally unacceptable but i'm just wondering what was up with the gay man who went way out of his way to get what was going to be an almost certain bad reaction.
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
Did it have to be a bad reaction?
What about that show "There is something about Miriam? That was bound to end badly too. But I got the clear impression that the guy who Miriam chose was truly attracted to her and into her. Her Trans status and the way it was revealed at the climax of the program doomed the whole thing. But did it really have to?
How is someone who is not "straight" supposed to "safely" find a mate? Wear appropriately colored hankies? Stick to queer spaces? or take their lives into their own hands?
To hell with people's precious straightness.
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
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Originally Posted by
Faith_CD
i didn't say they should have to fear it but really what was this guys end game? he took a straight man onto the Jenny Jones show, which was broadcast nation wide, to tell him he had a crush on him. what exactly did he think was going to happen?
again what happened was totally unacceptable but i'm just wondering what was up with the gay man who went way out of his way to get what was going to be an almost certain bad reaction.
So, Faith, what would be the bottom line here? He shouldn’t reveal his crush in front of what? 5 persons? no: 3? then again no: only one, only to the person whom he has a crush on, right? Then what if it was to come to someone else’s ears? should the other guy be then entitled to be so mad in such circumstances?
I don’t understand that logic, but not one bit! What does it do to someone to be attractive to someone gay? Soil him? Does it disgrace him? Does it diminish him? Tell me, because I can’t fathom this one! Why is it an attenuating circumstance to you that this crush was revealed on tv?
That someone would think: “Because you, the gay, told everyone you were attracted to me, I’m going to kill you”? that, to you, is a normal reaction? I just can’t get this!
Come on! Faith, that doesn't make sense... Every one of us should have the right to his desire and his attraction when it is between adults, and no one deserves to be treated like that for such a reason. We all should have the right to express ourselves without risking to be attacked.
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
ow let talk about aggressive gay men who grab forcibly and or aggressively
forward,whats your take on on response then?
what if a guy does or say for instance a
guy is really religious and has in his belief that he will go to hell for relationship with a TS but the ts tricks him into marriage and its not discovered until some one tells or goes digging.
this has already happen in either te U.K. OR LONDON
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natina
what if he touch you and like squeezed your buttocks,pulled your hand towards his penis forcibly or grabbed your crotch?
how would you react?
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natina
so an aggressive gay man would get a violent reaction!
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onmyknees
So what are you asking? Is it the sexuality of the aggressor that has you so inquisitive....or the fact that they are an aggressor ? The point is would an aggressive guy groping a women on the street get a different reaction? He shouldn't . You cross that line, and you'd better expect a reaction.
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Originally Posted by
Faith_CD
i didn't say they should have to fear it but really what was this guys end game? he took a straight man onto the Jenny Jones show, which was broadcast nation wide, to tell him he had a crush on him. what exactly did he think was going to happen?
again what happened was totally unacceptable but i'm just wondering what was up with the gay man who went way out of his way to get what was going to be an almost certain bad reaction.
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Natina, we’re talking about someone who reveals a crush on someone; not a prison rape committed by someone who’s in there for life. All the cases you’re talking about are different. Yet I’ll tell you something, ever since I started reading the paper a long, long time ago, what I see is people who are getting beaten up to a pulp and killed for absolutely no other reason than their sexual orientation; what little of the opposite you see (outside prison stories), is so meager it’s practically nonexistent. I think we should remain on the subject…
Re: Gay man has a cruch on you,publically tells you & you kill him
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Originally Posted by
danthepoetman
So, Faith, what would be the bottom line here? He shouldn’t reveal his crush in front of what? 5 persons? no: 3? then again no: only one, only to the person whom he has a crush on, right? Then what if it was to come to someone else’s ears? should the other guy be then entitled to be so mad in such circumstances?
I don’t understand that logic, but not one bit! What does it do to someone to be attractive to someone gay? Soil him? Does it disgrace him? Does it diminish him? Tell me, because I can’t fathom this one! Why is it an attenuating circumstance to you that this crush was revealed on tv?
That someone would think: “Because you, the gay, told everyone you were attracted to me, I’m going to kill you”? that, to you, is a normal reaction? I just can’t get this!
Come on! Faith, that doesn't make sense... Every one of us should have the right to his desire and his attraction when it is between adults, and no one deserves to be treated like that for such a reason. We all should have the right to express ourselves without risking to be attacked.
You seem like a reasonable and decent guy, but you're living in a utopian dream world. When are you returning to this one? You seem to be hung up on what "should be " permissable or acceptable. That's nice, but you're presuming everyone has your skill set and disposition. Bad assumption. There are certain things we know instinctively that are just not advisable. You don't walk down a dark alley in a bad neighborhood at 2 AM, and the person that's foolish enough to say " I should be able to walk anywhere in my city" is not wrong...he's just going to get hurt. You don't drive by a group of Hells Angels and flip them the bird because you think their exhaust is to loud to hear your radio. You don't stare at some Navy Seal's dick in the shower at your local gym...newsflash....he's not feeling the love you might have ! You don't confront someone like that on national TV with such a controversial admission. You leave him a voice mail, write him a letter, or tell him privately.
I'm not blaming the victim, but nothing good was bound to happen when one person is so publicly intimidated and embarrassed. I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more often. It's not about how you'd feel and react in the same situation, it's about how he reacted.
