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But its not because he is white that they would say this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkThanos
First of all it is ILLEGAL to advocate the asassination of a sitting president.
Blacks have been voting for white folks for years so CLEARLY those speaking as you said were not doing so because of his color.
Those who advocate killing Obama ARE doing so because of racism.
does anyone know the origins of the clan?
i know a little, it was started just as a club for the South's veterans of the civil war. however, they started getting involved in the racial stuff later on, which caused some members to leave. one of the guys that left is the guy Forest Gump was named after, he left and started supporting the rights for minorities. Now they are full blow retard inbreds. it sucks though that that is one thing the south is know for. hopefully we dont get the new tag 'The Part of America that Killed the First Non-White President'
there is must be a reason why the Demos are counting on winning Ohio and Florida - the current dynamics and popular opinion must be changing in their favor, and against McCain.Quote:
Originally Posted by francisfkudrow
Even independents and some republicans are not sold on McCain and
are bought into thinking they will suffer the same political approach as they have in the dreadful Bush era.
Bias aside, people are hurting financially and looking for what they view
as a better way out. Experiencing Bush-league for 8 years, no doubt
will convince them. Some might not think the polls really matters, but yet McCain has committed to a completer 360 in terms of approach, direction
in campaigning, turning more towards character -assassination and personal attacks and smears than talking about the issue Americans
are most concerning: the Economy.
Plus general people are clueing in that something is wrong with a presidential candidate that has to be " re-energize " by its vice president candidate Sarah Palin, whose popularity and stock seems to be fruitless and dropping among eyes of potential voters.
Obama as of date, is pulling more of a lead over McCain among the polls
and i don't think that's a misleading omen. Especially for a panic-striken
Republican candidate who felt he had to completey pull out of
Michigan( despite the plea of his VP) with just weeks away from
the big election.
so what?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkThanos
stupidity can find it's way in any ethnicity. But Each individual
is defined by their actions.
Cuz McCain is a huge douche!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsluva
(I saw it on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=BillORights1776 --funny stuff :lol: )
Why should I embrace him, he isn't proposing anything new, its all the same old far left polices that liberals have been talking about for decades (ya sure he adds a few twists), some of them have already been implemented and failed. He has done everything in this campaign that other politicians before him have done. There is nothing really unique or special about him, other than he might be the first black president. I don't like him and it has nothing to do with him being black, its the terrible policies he wants to implement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
I have to say now that Obama and McCain are moving closer and closer to being the same candidate I are starting to think it would be better if Obama wins so we can put this racism bullshit to rest. I don't deny it still exists in America, but its being way overblown in this election. How many of these racist whites would have been voting for a white Democrat? I thought all racists were Republicans? How many more blacks are going to vote this year because of Obama, that wouldn't have voted at all for white candidate?
Of course Obama would be better than Bush, you could probably pull a random person off the street and they wouldn't fuck up as bad as Bush has done. Why do liberals hate Bush so much, he is the most socialist president we have had since FDR. Bush will go down as one of the top 10 worst presidents ever, I would say even a President Palin would be hard to outdo Bush.
I think Obama will win and end up being the black Jimmy Carter.
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Are you serious? You do know that there are two (of several) Klans right?Quote:
Originally Posted by boondocksaint
The original Klan, the one run by Confederate veterans, went around using violence to try to counter Union reconstruction policies whenever these policies attempted to "undo" the racist practices of the south (like letting blacks hold political office). There was no "gentleman's club"- this isn't the Free Masons here, this was a real terrorist organization from Day 1
The later Klan, the one that went around lynching people in the 20th century, blowing up buildings with lil girls in them, stuff like that- only bore the same name as the earlier group.
The Klan that we know & "love" came from Indiana IIRC, which I wouldn't quite call the deep south.... and membership was national on a huge scale for quite a long time, in the North and the South.
Generally I agree with your assessment, I don't particularly see an advantage to much of what Obama's had to say... or Hillary for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaGrande
But I do think that, this time around, it is the better of the two evils (another topic entirely).
I don't think this thread is about people who have a disagreement with an "Obama presidency" on true political ideological grounds. There are, without any doubt, some who are wanting to see Obama dead just because he is black. I also feel there are many, perhaps more than we realize, who won't vote for him strictly because he is black, or because his dad is islamic, or because his name rhymes with Osama.
The racism in America has not left to the point where it is a nonissue in every state, there were states, particularly in the bible belt- that turned on McCain in the 2000 primaries when the swift boat groups (then under different names) ran around phoning people to imply he had an interracial child. In the wake, republicans in these states ended up voting for Bush the clown everyone thought couldn't win, not the war hero with a nonwhite adopted child.
But is it? Only election day can truly tell us that answer, it will be interesting to see what people say going in & out of the polling locations. It certainly is the, as I believe AP put it, "big elephant in the room"- we have evidence in recent elections to show that race plays a huge issue, especially in certain states.Quote:
I don't deny it still exists in America, but its being way overblown in this election.
There certainly are people who would use race as a litmus test in either political party... however there is evidence in the forms of studies that republicans and democrats DO tend to have different conceived notions of racial stereotypes. Not only does direct "i won't ever vote for a black" play a role of some kind, but so does the person who has all these bad misconceptions in their mind about other races.Quote:
How many of these racist whites would have been voting for a white Democrat?
Agreed, I think no matter what Obama will be a one term presidency if he wins, and I don't see it going any better than the Carter years- we already have the energy & economic worries...Quote:
I think Obama will win and end up being the black Jimmy Carter.
if I were Obama I would be very careful who I allow access to my jet. As far as policies go there will be very difference between Obama and McCain. The country is bankrupt and millions will soon be unemployed and homeless. http://www.heyokamagazine.com/heyoka.16.waynemadsen.htm