Re: PapiQueRico ... RACISM !
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Originally Posted by PapiQueRico
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Originally Posted by praetor
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Originally Posted by PapiQueRico
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Originally Posted by gepetto
PapiQueRico , sorry.
If you don't know a place , if you have never been or lived there, don't say these kind of things.
Seems
imature.
One must not confuse poverty with skin color, or any other anthropomorphic characteristics.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
You can be in a state of denial, if you want.
Also, before using big words like "imature," you might want to learn how to spell grown-up people's words first. :lol:
Dear Papi,
Where do u live? Do u know Brazil, have u ever been here? Firs of all, you must learn more about Brazil, and racism here, we have rules about it, against racism, racism is a crime here. Here is not a paradise, even a heaven, we have our own troubles, but isn't like you think you know.
Come to Brazil, and find out.
I will be in Brazil in November. I hope you prove me wrong.
I'm glad someone gave the poster sound advice about San Paulo. How big is the black TS population there?
Large enough, worry about it HERE and forget about it THERE.
We have a pornographic obsession with racism here in Good Ol' Amerikkka
Its systematic, symptomatic and sensationalized in the media.
Reich Wing speak is that Black folk can be racist too and I laugh, we don't have the power, the weapons, armies, law enforcement, large business, the government or the money to oppress a people; Caucasians DO!
That is NOT an indictment of "White America" as a whole so when black people and frankly other white people say that, DO NOT GET UPSET; if you don't have a problem with Black Folk we aren't talking about you. Its people that are curious about KKK meetings, use racial slurs in everyday conversations or people that say "I have many black friends"....
There racially motivated "jokes" in media. In other countries if people said something about hanging Tiger Woods, there asses would be in jail. The constitution has free speech but doesn't not protect you from HATE speech and those laws are not ENFORCED enough, among OTHER things.
I can ASSURE you people in Brasil couldn't give two fucks about the color of your skin. Women aren't clutching their bags in elevators, etc, etc.
If you get robbed its because you were a dumb ass in the wrong part of town at the WRONG part of night.
That's not to say you can't venture around Rio or Sao Paulo, many visitors DO!
Crime talk when traveling overseas is OVERRATED which might explain some of this "fear" in the country after NINE-ELEVEN. It was an INSIDE JOB meat heads, nothing to be scared over other than Bush invoking MARSHALL LAW and declaring NO ELECTIONS this year....
But I digress -
If you want BIG and BLACK, stay at home. Plenty of African-American TS running around with large tools. Call Vanessa in Chicago for CS....
If you want to go to Brasil for T's you go to Sao Paulo and who said Sao Paulo isn't fun????
I call being up to my armpits in BEAUTIFUL women at Love Story FUN!
I call going to Clinitcas to get a massage with no intention of actually not having sex before, during and after that massage...
Sex while the dollar value around the world is falling is still fairly reasonable.
There are plenty of "targets" to hit in Sampa and they aren't going, YUCK he's Black. Some might not be interested, but I can assure you that is NOT the case with ALL of them.
Re: PapiQueRico ... RACISM !
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
Reich Wing speak is that Black folk can be racist too and I laugh, we don't have the power, the weapons, armies, law enforcement, large business, the government or the money to oppress a people; Caucasians DO!
I love it when blacks throw that one out there!
Why is it that some of the most racist people I've seen/heard are black?
People like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Malik Shabazz, Quanell X, Louis Farrakhan, etc.
Pot, meet kettle.
Racism has NOTHING to do with power. Racist people try to make others believe that it does.
Re: PapiQueRico ... RACISM !
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Originally Posted by sactojoey
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
Reich Wing speak is that Black folk can be racist too and I laugh, we don't have the power, the weapons, armies, law enforcement, large business, the government or the money to oppress a people; Caucasians DO!
I love it when blacks throw that one out there!
Why is it that some of the most racist people I've seen/heard are black?
People like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Malik Shabazz, Quanell X, Louis Farrakhan, etc.
Pot, meet kettle.
Racism has NOTHING to do with power. Racist people try to make others believe that it does.
Oh yes it does...
None of those people you mentioned HATE White People. Oh but they detest what White American/European Men have DONE and are STILL doing.
Exxon Mobil is responsible for the DEATH of HOW MANY AFRICANS??
Are you saying if they went into a largely POOR White Country like Moldova, the same thing would happen? HARDLY, at least not as brutal.
How many times (not in the mainstream media of course) do American Soldiers called Iraqis "Towel Heads" "Sand Niggers" and various other "Colorfully" words?
That's not WAR, that's systematic lack of respect for anybody DIFFERENT FROM YOU .
America is a WRECK because of White People, not Black or Brown or Asian people. Its YOUR COLLECTIVE FAULT.
You rather point at Black people and say YOU have the problem, when 270 years of slavery that this country STILL has not come to terms with is largely the problem, the fictional telling of our history and the wealth of this country built on the back of FREE FORCED LABOR.
You took this thread off topic.
All I was saying is that for people that have never traveled outside of America, one of the racist and most violent countries on earth and you're worried about some Brazilian people????
Trust me your better off OUTSIDE of America...
Re: Going to Brasil/Brazil for first encounter and need help
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Originally Posted by envivision
Unfortunately, Portuguese is a must in order to speak with the ladies on the phone and make arrangments. Ask your the hotel staff for help in calling the ladies.
Are you serious? Get the hotel staff to help you make an appointment with an escort? Or do people in Brazil have a more enlightened attitude toward escorting than we do in the U.S.?
Re: Going to Brasil/Brazil for first encounter and need help
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Originally Posted by hugochavez
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Originally Posted by envivision
Unfortunately, Portuguese is a must in order to speak with the ladies on the phone and make arrangments. Ask your the hotel staff for help in calling the ladies.
Are you serious? Get the hotel staff to help you make an appointment with an escort? Or do people in Brazil have a more enlightened attitude toward escorting than we do in the U.S.?
Yes he's serious
Yes get the staff to help you, they don't care
And Yes to them only the holier than now crowd cares...They know its part of the tourist attraction in Rio, less so in Sao Paulo.
But Hugo what I wanna know is how is Venezuela?!
Re: PapiQueRico ... RACISM !
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
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Originally Posted by sactojoey
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
Reich Wing speak is that Black folk can be racist too and I laugh, we don't have the power, the weapons, armies, law enforcement, large business, the government or the money to oppress a people; Caucasians DO!
I love it when blacks throw that one out there!
Why is it that some of the most racist people I've seen/heard are black?
People like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Malik Shabazz, Quanell X, Louis Farrakhan, etc.
Pot, meet kettle.
Racism has NOTHING to do with power. Racist people try to make others believe that it does.
Oh yes it does...
None of those people you mentioned HATE White People. Oh but they detest what White American/European Men have DONE and are STILL doing.
Exxon Mobil is responsible for the DEATH of HOW MANY AFRICANS??
Are you saying if they went into a largely POOR White Country like Moldova, the same thing would happen? HARDLY, at least not as brutal.
How many times (not in the mainstream media of course) do American Soldiers called Iraqis "Towel Heads" "Sand Niggers" and various other "Colorfully" words?
That's not WAR, that's systematic lack of respect for anybody DIFFERENT FROM YOU .
America is a WRECK because of White People, not Black or Brown or Asian people. Its YOUR COLLECTIVE FAULT.
You rather point at Black people and say YOU have the problem, when 270 years of slavery that this country STILL has not come to terms with is largely the problem, the fictional telling of our history and the wealth of this country built on the back of FREE FORCED LABOR.
You took this thread off topic.
All I was saying is that for people that have never traveled outside of America, one of the racist and most violent countries on earth and you're worried about some Brazilian people????
Trust me your better off OUTSIDE of America...
Talking as an Englishman here, most of the prejudice in the US and UK is about colour. Its about the class system. Its about MONEY. Rich or poor.
A rich black man will get further in life than a poor white guy. Colour doesnt mean anything to me. I judge and dislike all people til I get to know them. Black, white, gay or straight. Thats more of a personal trust issue with me than it is about anything.
I think waiting for an apoplogy for slavery is the biggest problem. Its never gonna happen. It would come across as meaningless if it happened. Not all white people were involved with slavery. I could apologise but it wouldnt be sincere. I know for a fact none of my ancestors were involved. An apology, for me, only means something from a person directly involved. Not an apology from someone who was never responsible. And you think someone saying sorry will make you feel better? The Irish, who I'm sure would love an apology for 400 years of oppresion, but dont expect to get one, and have moved on. I'm sure the British would love one from the Romans, but never gonna happen.
Sorry to rant on and ruin Brazil holiday guys thread but as much as I agree terrible things have happened in the past, you have to live in the now. "Trailer Trash" get just a bad deal as blacks in America. And if you wanna see slavery today, just look at Africa. Slavery still exists, without a white person in sight. Explain that.
There is too much history on this planet that cannot/will not ever be resolved. and though these things shouldnt be forgotten or swept under the carpet, remaining angry about them isnt going to help. Especially when nobody DIRECTLY INVOLVED is here to account for it. I've had things happen in my life happen to me, and I've let them affect me and control my life. I've had to put them behind me and start living.
This response isnt me making a personal attack on anybody. I'm just stating what i think.
