That's pretty sad. I really feel sorry for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
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That's pretty sad. I really feel sorry for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
you can call me jackass and jerkoff ten times i stand by my words and its a fact. you dont know nothing about the brazil ts scene. the article, as i have read it, stated that many travestis or bonecas or whatever name is beeing used start at gay boys. i havent read much about the reverting process there.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
i havent said i know anything about ts in brazil or anywhere else. you did and you assume that i did. WRONG. read what i wrote not what you like to read so you can get all aggressive again.
and i guess you assume that i care if they in fact went back beeing a guy? wrong again. i couldnt care less. its their life, they can have four tits, three balls and two pussies.
what i dont like is generalisation and that "oh we in the western world know so much cuz we have tv, the net and live in the information age" attitude.
anyways, this thread has probably taken the right direction via asking or requesting information form people ACTUALLY LIVING THERE.
i did not know thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Rod la Rod
Equally sad, is that many times the same set of eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dkg
occurs domestically as well.
Transvestite is the medical / psychological term.Quote:
Originally Posted by LG
Cross dresser is the term used by the layperson.
While there are no hard and fast rules for the the sex object
choice of the transvestite, they tend to be statistically
heterosexual.
Again I defer to Benjamin;
Type Two: Transvestism (Fetishistic)
Gender Feeling: Masculine
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Lives as a man. Dressing periodically or
part of the time. Dresses underneath male clothes.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Heterosexual. Rarely bisexual.
Masturbation with fetish. Guilt feelings. Purges and relapses.
Kinsey Scale: 0-2
Conversion Operation: Rejected
Estrogen Medication: Rarely interested. Occasionally useful to reduce
libido. Psychotherapy: May be successful (in a favorable environment.)
Remarks: May imitate double (masculine and feminine) personality with
male and female names.
Type Three: Transvestism (True)
Gender Feeling: Masculine (but with less conviction.)
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Dresses constantly or as often as
possible. May live and be accepted as woman. May dress underneath
male clothes, if no other chance.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Heterosexual, except when dressed.
Dressing gives sexual satisfaction with relief of gender discomfort. May
purge and relapse.
Kinsey Scale: 0-2
Conversion Operation: Actually rejected, but idea can be attractive.
Estrogen Medication: Attractive as an experiment. Can be helpful
emotionally Psychotherapy: If attempted is usually not successful as
to cure.
Remarks: May assume double personality. Trend toward transsexualism.
A side note;Quote:
Originally Posted by LG
In Pornography the term 'Shemale' (along with tranny, ladyboy
and "chick with a dick") is commonly, used in pornography and the sex
industry; videos and magazines involving such people are a common sub-
genre of pornography. It is often seen by transsexual people as a
powerful term of abuse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lwollert/Shemale
The more politically correct term for kathoey is sao (or phuying) praphet
song ("a second kind of woman"), or phet thee sam (third sex).
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...lice_image.jpg
I think there is a clear distinction between the two types as identified by Benjamin. I would suggest that many people might say that CDs to just one grouping. Although naturally TVs cross-dress, I'd say that not all TVs define as cross-dressers.
The question is "why does a cross-dresser cross-dress?" Is it for sexual satisfaction, is it because they feel comfortable in women's clothing, is it because they identify more with women than men? There are many reasons why one would choose to do it and I don't think it's fair to lump them all together.
I think Benjamin was on to something, but even his years of research cannot amount to the experience of just one person who has gone through these things. If we could put research aside for a little while (and as a researcher I also find that very difficult), I'd like to see what people actually believe on the issue and what the opinions of the guys and girls here are (including the TVs here).
That said, your post is well thought-out and well-written as always,
LG
As someone who grew up in the L.A. Hollywood Tranny scene in the Late 70's and 80's I have know many TS's that have gone back to their male persona.
Can anyone name a TS who has been on the scene turning tricks for 10-15 years or so and is still around and healthy?
What is the longevity of the average beautiful young TS in Hollywood or any large city? What happens when you turn 40 and turning tricks or doing porn is no longer an option.
almost makes me want to go out and do something about it.....but then I start thinking about that project pat song "don't save her"Quote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
I consider myself and describe myself as a transvestite (at this time), this is simply because I haven't had any surgery yet and I'm not taking hormones.
The word transvestite is Latin the actual translation is trans - 'cross' vestite - 'dresser' but to me being a transvestite is the first step on the ladder to becoming what I ultimately want: physically female.
The term cross dressing, for me at least doesn't come close. I consider some of the guys I see who want to wear a dress, panties or nylons in a session to be cross dressers. Once these guys cum their female aspirations are done. I believe that for transvestites the need and desire to be in female garb and mode is much deeper than a sexual fantasy and for me personally like I already said it's the first step.
All the Transsexuals in the world had to have been a transvestite at one point. Before hormones and surgery they were technically transvestites. If they dressed and explored their feminine side with make-up etc. (which I'm sure they did) then at that point in their transformation they were transvestites there's no other description for it.
That's my opinion anyhows.