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Shit "D" I am 36 a 1st degree black belt in Judo and a 2nd degree black belt in Aikido, trained in the Army spent most of my life fighting over someting and i still fear my Mom...... As she put it, " it was by my grace that you came into this world and it is by my hand you can exit it, so straighten up!"
BTW Danielle, Vicki, Allanah, Tara and Katt i think my mom would love you. Hint Hint :D :D :D
Which one would I bring home to Mom, well almost (no bullshit) brought Vanity home to meet her. As well Mia. Don't think Mia is as passable though. Most of the gurls on this thread are gorgeous beautiful gurls. If I were to bring one home to mom though sh'd have to have a great attitude, and personalitiy too. Not saying that to be cliche, it's how I honestlty feel.
If you're bringing your T girlfriend home to meet your Mother I don't see why it matters if she's passable or not. You're introducing her to your mother as a transexual not a girl. The fact that whether she passes as a GG or not is irrelevant. I have a TS girlfriend and we've been going out for 6 months now and we plan to be living together as of the end of June this year. This is when I plan to tell my close family that she is transexual.
Actually you're right it shouldn't and come to think of it, it doesn't. The thing for me though still is the type of person she is. Personality, attitude etc. but then again that;s the whole reason for dating in the first place. I'm not going to date someone who's personality I can't stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumanbehan
thehumanbehan wrote:
Exactly. You wouldn't introduce anyone to your mother or to the rest of the family unless you cared enough about that person to want to live with them, perhaps for the rest of your life. I think I would definitely bring a t-girl home and tell my family the truth about her if I really was in love with her. Most family members would be understanding anyway (maybe they wouldn't quite understand but they would, nonetheless try to). But what about my friends, especially my male friends? Could I count on their support? Unlikely. But how honest and how fair is it to live a lie by pretending to be with a girl?Quote:
You're introducing her to your mother as a transexual not a girl. The fact that whether she passes as a GG or not is irrelevant. I have a TS girlfriend and we've been going out for 6 months now and we plan to be living together as of the end of June this year. This is when I plan to tell my close family that she is transexual.
Have you told your friends humanbehan ? And how did they, especially the men, react? You see, I think unless one is attracted to tgs, one can't quite see the attraction.
Cobra78 wrote:
I agree. Even though gays are almost in the mainstream, transexuals are still regarded as odd, curious, even freaks by many people (I know this is what some of my friends think). I think most people I know would have an easier time accepting me to be gay (which I'm not and have never shown signs of being) than a tranny-lover. People still associate transexuals with drag-queens. In some small communities a transgendered person is more often pities than feared but never admired. Even though some artists, actors and directors have manages to drive transgenderism into the public conscience, their films (such as those of Almodovar) still protray the world of transgenderism as seedy, even warped.Quote:
I think the problem is that transexuals and their male and female admirers are usually stuck somewhere in the nowhere land of acceptance. Tgirls and their lovers can often annoy and alienate themselves from the gay community, while at the same time freaking out the str8 community. It's a lose-lose situation either way.
It doesn't help that there are so many expressions and words to describe M2Fs, especially preop M2Fs (chicks with dicks, shemales, trannies, katoeys and ladyboys- for Asian M2Fs, hung angels, dolls with balls, cocks in frocks, etc). And now that post ops are allowed to change their birth certificates to reflect their new gender in some countries, many macho men are frightened to death that they may be tricked.
It also doesn't help that the transegendered community (and their admirers) don't have an organisation like GLAAD (as far as I know) so that they can collectively campaign for acceptance.
Finally, I remember once seeing a terrible film (made in the late 1970s or 1980s) on video about a series of murder (I think it was at a high school or college). Turns out the killer was a teacher there and a woman who used to be a man. That kind of movie when it was made both reflected and helped to shape society's view of the transgendered. Since then, I fear, not much has changed.
Increase the peace.
thehumanbehan wrote:
Exactly. You wouldn't introduce anyone to your mother or to the rest of the family unless you cared enough about that person to want to live with them, perhaps for the rest of your life. I think I would definitely bring a t-girl home and tell my family the truth about her if I really was in love with her. Most family members would be understanding anyway (maybe they wouldn't quite understand but they would, nonetheless try to). But what about my friends, especially my male friends? Could I count on their support? Unlikely. But how honest and how fair is it to live a lie by pretending to be with a girl?Quote:
You're introducing her to your mother as a transexual not a girl. The fact that whether she passes as a GG or not is irrelevant. I have a TS girlfriend and we've been going out for 6 months now and we plan to be living together as of the end of June this year. This is when I plan to tell my close family that she is transexual.
Have you told your friends humanbehan ? And how did they, especially the men, react? You see, I think unless one is attracted to tgs, one can't quite see the attraction.
Cobra78 wrote:
I agree. Even though gays are almost in the mainstream, transexuals are still regarded as odd, curious, even freaks by many people (I know this is what some of my friends think). I think most people I know would have an easier time accepting me to be gay (which I'm not and have never shown signs of being) than a tranny-lover. People still associate transexuals with drag-queens. In some small communities a transgendered person is more often pities than feared but never admired. Even though some artists, actors and directors have manages to drive transgenderism into the public conscience, their films (such as those of Almodovar) still protray the world of transgenderism as seedy, even warped.Quote:
I think the problem is that transexuals and their male and female admirers are usually stuck somewhere in the nowhere land of acceptance. Tgirls and their lovers can often annoy and alienate themselves from the gay community, while at the same time freaking out the str8 community. It's a lose-lose situation either way.
It doesn't help that there are so many expressions and words to describe M2Fs, especially preop M2Fs (chicks with dicks, shemales, trannies, katoeys and ladyboys- for Asian M2Fs, hung angels, dolls with balls, cocks in frocks, etc). And now that post ops are allowed to change their birth certificates to reflect their new gender in some countries, many macho men are frightened to death that they may be tricked.
It also doesn't help that the transegendered community (and their admirers) don't have an organisation like GLAAD (as far as I know) so that they can collectively campaign for acceptance.
Finally, I remember once seeing a terrible film (made in the late 1970s or 1980s) on video about a series of murder (I think it was at a high school or college). Turns out the killer was a teacher there and a woman who used to be a man. That kind of movie when it was made both reflected and helped to shape society's view of the transgendered. Since then, I fear, not much has changed.
Increase the peace.
I know this regardless if she's a T or G if she's a very sexy gurl (girl) she's the kind you don't bring home to Mama. Rick James taught me that.
YES, ONE PROBLEM WITH THE WHOLE GAY RIGHT CAMPAIGN IS THEIR FACE OR IMAGE TO THE PUBLIC. FOR SOME REASON THEY ALLOW US STRAIGHTS TO CATEGORIZE THEM. THE TRANSGENDERED, CROSS-DRESSERS, THE LEATHER GROUPS, FETISHIST, AND OTHER “DEVIANT” LIFESTYLES ARE ALL LUMPED TOGETHER WITH GAYS AND LESBIANS. IT SEEMS THAT ANY LIFESTYLE THAT ISN’T MAINSTREAM IS THROWN TOGETHER...Quote:
Originally Posted by LG
TRANSEXUALS WOULD DO THEMSELVES A GREAT SERVICE IF THEY WOULD CUT LOOSE THE OTHER GROUPS AND GO FOR SELF…LIKE THE GAYS & LESBIANS HAVE DONE. IT’S A LOT EASIER TO DEMAND RESPECT AND EQUAL RIGHTS WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE A 45 YEAR OLD NAKED MAN IN LEATHER CHAPS AND A POLICE CAP DROWNING OUT YOUR MESSAGE WITH SCREAMS OF “RIDE ME COWBOY”, LOL…OR A SIX-FOOT CROSS-DRESSER CLAIMING TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST...
SOME HOW WE CONVINCED THEM THAT THEY ALL BELONG TOGETHER; EVENTHOUGH THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN COMMON…
WHY DON’T THESE GURLS FIGHT FOR MARRIAGE AND RIGHTS SEPARATE FROM GAYS AND LEBIANS?…
IF THE FIRST ACCOUNTS OF GAY WEDDINGS WERE PICTURES OF GURLS LIKE VANITY AND DANIELLE GETTING MARRIED TO STRAIGHT DUDES; THERE WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN AN UPROAR OR BACKLASH…
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT SYMPATHY AND PHONECALLS ON “HOW CAN I GET ME ONE”? LOL.
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Originally Posted by ONEWORLD
Amen.
That is very very true. Problem is, that would "out" some girls, and it would take pioneers. It soudns easy on screen, but damn, i know some passable girls that are living as GGs and they would definately NOT want to be "outed". But I know some who can care less and would be willing to do something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ONEWORLD
I just picked up the local ATL adult free magazine today [XCitement] and they had an article on the AVN awards. They had photos of all these adult performers, one being Vanity. Not in the writeup, picture or anything did they mention she was a TS. I think that if the issue is raised in a sensible way through different outlets, then it may increase public acceptance. See, there are TONS of people who like TSs.
Want an indicator? Im not that old, but Ive been using computers for the past 14 years, solidly. I remember the BBSs that had 20,000 of XXX pictures, and 10 of those were TS porn. Usually the TS stuff had MORE if not the same amoutn of downloads as everything else. Was the market not there? I doutn that it was simply supply. Go to your local adult video store and look at the videos at the video booth. We all know that usually the Gay videos dominate the shelves, but lately Ive noticed the TS movies have as many TS videos playing as the gay and straight movies. Hmmm... What about the TS movies moving from Fetish to its own Transexual section? HOw many TSs are in your average free adult newspaper?
See, the admirers are there. Its just the ones that are willing to "Come out the closet". But thats is understandibly hard for some when you have shows that do things distrastefully like Jerry Springer. But if we had more shows like Maury who arent making the girls look like freaks, then maybe thats a small step. Naw, Maury can do better. He does all these shows on obese kids, people with disabilities, wives being treated wrong, but never anything showing sympathy for someone gay or transgendered; at least that I can recall off the top of my head. See, its too taboo.
We have all types of movies like Ace Ventura and Billy Madison with small jokes on TSs. How about we get a film with a "manly man" like hmm... George Clooney or Brad Pitt acting with a JLO or Eva Mendez and then we find out that the female role is really a TS? To my knowledge we have no TS actors, but how about a movie where being a TS/Gay isnt the main focus? Or people are crossdressing to get into a sorority or hide from someone, whatever the case? Hell, with all the actors that I know for FACT are serious tranny chasers on the low, Im sure someone would take the role.