8 big names speak out of abuse from christian

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Originally Posted by Shelf

Of Christian's critics in this thread, how many of you actually know him or have ever met him?

Thought so ... ;)

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I mean, that goes both ways though. Do you personally know him?

look this is a biz and a message board dedicated to the girls in our industry. They are the stars, not me. So obviously the vast majority of fans are going to side with their favorite girls. I get that.

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Originally Posted by Telvin

Bottom line is, if you use a threat, no matter the threat, to get sex, you are guilty of RAPE! I have read numerous responses on this board that christian as made to critics and quite frankly I think he is a douch. I for one will take what the 8 ladies have said as truth and what christian says with a grain of salt. He is a narcissist and even his response shows it. I'm this, I am that, I have won this, I have won that so I cannot possible be the bad guy here.

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Whatever.

Prospective porn actors are often required to have sex OFF CAMERA before they ever perform onscreen.

It's a form of rehearsal. If you're shitty at sex offscreen, why should a porn producer wait until he has everything ready for production to find out an actor sucks at sex in front of a camera???

If I were working in porn, I would think a producer asking me to have sex is kind of like an audition.

No different that a music producer asking me to sing a few bars.

If Christian was not a porn producer, and instead said he knew a guy who knew a guy who could get them in the business, but only if they had sex with him, that would be shady IMO.

However, in this case, Christian is the one producing the porn content.
Whenever he has sex with a prospective model, it's never JUST sex.

It's about seeing what you can do, if you have the necessary passion and sensuality to be a successful porn actress.

It seems to me these girls don't know the business they're trying to work in.

IMO this drama is because Christian appears to shoot a few scenes with a girl them moves on, choosing not to work with them again.
That's business.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

THis is idiotic.

We're talking about PORN, for God's sake.

It would be the equivalent of a record producer telling an artist, "If you don't let me produce your next album, you won't have a career."
That's a threat, not abuse.

Christian allegedly telling another porn performer they need to do a scene with him to boost their career is NOT abuse.
And who exactly do they think is going to censure Christian for this alleged abuse??

Unless CHristian was out here raping girls, these chicks need to STFU.

From what I read Christian sounds like a tough negotiator. That's not sexual abuse.

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Bruh....

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPervySage

Bruh....

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Bruh, I've heard of porn producers asking a chick during an interview to take off her panties and masturbate herself to orgasm.
I've read accounts of male performers being told to take their dick and jerk it until they cum.

This is the porn business, and it's all about performance.
That performance is S-E-X.

The rest of the complaints are just not serious to me.
Arguing over fees and shoots is just like, who cares??

End of the day, if Christian is too abrasive and dismissive of his talent, eventually girls won't want to work with him.
I haven't seen that happen so far, so I tend to believe this is a group of women with an axe to grind.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Whatever.

Prospective porn actors are often required to have sex OFF CAMERA before they ever perform onscreen.

It's a form of rehearsal. If you're shitty at sex offscreen, why should a porn producer wait until he has everything ready for production to find out an actor sucks at sex in front of a camera???

If I were working in porn, I would think a producer asking me to have sex is kind of like an audition.

No different that a music producer asking me to sing a few bars.

If Christian was not a porn producer, and instead said he knew a guy who knew a guy who could get them in the business, but only if they had sex with him, that would be shady IMO.

However, in this case, Christian is the one producing the porn content.
Whenever he has sex with a prospective model, it's never JUST sex.

It's about seeing what you can do, if you have the necessary passion and sensuality to be a successful porn actress.

It seems to me these girls don't know the business they're trying to work in.

IMO this drama is because Christian appears to shoot a few scenes with a girl them moves on, choosing not to work with them again.
That's business.

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Did you actually read their stories? I'm not actually saying I believe either side (whatever the truth is it's awful either way; either Christian has crossed some lines he 100% shouldn't have or there are like he says performers that just don't like him in which case it's a group made character assassination attempt - both suck). But the allegations aren't about some sort of rehearsal - he hasn't even suggested that - they are allegations of sexual abuse such as groping people, forcing them to perform oral sex or allegations of manipulation such as undercutting them in pay, arrangements or trying to get them to work with out a condom by badgering them constantly by talking about industry experience.

I could understand someone defending Christian and saying "look loads of performers work with him quite happily, these are just a few who didn't get exactly what they wanted and therefore have a grudge" or others attacking him and saying "listen to these terrible things the performers have said sounds like he's a bully" but your audition suggestion is utterly mental.

From what I can gather and Christian can always correct me on this seeing as he has been active in the thread but like other producers he spends the time researching potential scene partners (either by looking at their other content or things such as social media and cam work) and talking to them via DMs or email before he commits financial resources to fly them out and shoot. And I seriously doubt his idea of a rehearsal is groping someone whilst they are doing their make-up or getting a blow-job in his car following a meeting if he is the professional he states he is then things would be done differently than that I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by delhiguy

being polite and respectful.....ya why not but upto what extent . there is a limit to everything as we say !!

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Yep, i agree on you... take a look at the messages exchanged between them and use your critical thinking to find out if he exceeded the limit or not... i wont refer to the stories cause those might not so reliable sources. For me when someone start to speaks abruptly and a bit hostile to others without a significant reason then it's lack of respect for the other person

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Originally Posted by Shelf

Of Christian's critics in this thread, how many of you actually know him or have ever met him?

Thought so ... ;)

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lol nice argument... As most people here don't know or met Christian, there as many people that don't know or met the girls. So how can we supposed to have an opinion for either side? I just look in the evidence (not the stories told by the girls), which in this case are the real messages exchange between them. The judges in a court don't know anything about the people getting judged but they just use evidence to make an opinion of who they are. And now you can have an opinion. Thus the point ''you dont really know him'' is a bit childish and invalid in this case

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Originally Posted by ak999999

Yep, i agree on you... take a look at the messages exchanged between them and use your critical thinking to find out if he exceeded the limit or not... i wont refer to the stories cause those might not so reliable sources. For me when someone start to speaks abruptly and a bit hostile to others without a significant reason then it's lack of respect for the other person



lol nice argument... As most people here don't know or met Christian, there as many people that don't know or met the girls. So how can we supposed to have an opinion for either side? I just look in the evidence (not the stories told by the girls), which in this case are the real messages exchange between them. The judges in a court don't know anything about the people getting judged but they just use evidence to make an opinion of who they are. And now you can have an opinion. Thus the point ''you dont really know him'' is a bit childish and invalid in this case

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great...

Not surprised the big bald douchebag bully Christian himself is on here defending his actions and obvious abuse of power as "no big deal, blah blah blah etc", but I am surprised by the members of HungAngels rushing to his defence like the toadying, dick drunk sycophants that they are......he can do no wrong in your eyes since you want to get fucked by him and the moronic "but this is porn" card makes it all fine and good as far as you're concerned.

Everyone being so diplomatic and treading on eggshells because the big bald bully is a [very] minor celebrity and a regular poster here ?

Fuck that and fuck him, the guy is clearly an asshole, and IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, merely an aggressive creep and bully who sulks and acts like a 210lb, bald headed baby with a hard-on when he doesnt get his own way, despite his best attempts at coercion and threats.

Can't wait till comrade Stavros and his union of mutual adoration join the discussion proposing a law against Christian model abuse xD